11-10-2002 12:46									#91
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Dino’s – big whoop! Guess they needed to add a little extra to make that game worth the price on the box . The only use would be for fantasy scenarios.

But what if…

In the late game… after genetic manipulation… a wonder appears… let’s call it “Jurassic Park” for now… someone builds it… the world is amazed… and then these creatures escape… and wreak havoc on an unsuspecting populace… kinda like a late game barb unit?

Now if somebody could mod a Steven Spielberg unit!

	11-10-2002 15:20									#92
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quote: In the late game… after genetic manipulation… a wonder appears… let’s call it “Jurassic Park” for now… someone builds it… the world is amazed… and then these creatures escape… and wreak havoc on an unsuspecting populace… kinda like a late game barb unit

This isnt as far fetched as one may think, In ctp1 there was a wonder called dino park (basically the same as jurrasic park) they very strangly took it out of ctp2 though . But this wonder could easily be re-implemented and it has a TI for the visible wonders mod (so it would show up on map and it would look cool)
However by this late stage in the game i find it hard to see any dino's escaping and even if they did escape I cant see them being much (or any) threat at all

Still, maybe if the enemy pillaged the visible wonder the dino' could be let lose, and you could see them on the map (dinos from civ3) and rather than being so much of a threat it would just cause your civ and particualarly the city that built the park severe unhappiness.

To be honest with you i think the dino's would be best in there own dino scenarios. One using the ctp2 dinotopia map and one direct conversion from civ3

	12-10-2002 04:52									#93
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I hope I am not writing something stupid, I haven't yet tried all the mods and the rest so I just don't know if there is what I would like to have.

A landmine or even a sea one or even the ones that can be launched by the airplanes and spread in a large area, I thing that could be interesting.

I put mindfields right in front of my units and if someone attacks takes the damage and I can finished him later.

Missile launch vehicles, like the SS-18(?) and the Pershing 2.

Well what do you think?

	13-10-2002 21:11									#94
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Nova the landmine idea has been suggested for a long time, Activision where going to implement landmines, sea mines and space mines into ctp1. However the AI would have no chance of handling the idea, thats why they scrapped it. They even made a unit which wasnt implemented calle the "Combat engineer" which looks very cool and would be good as a genetic age+ engineer. However it is holding a mine detector which would just be silly if there where no mines in the game.

There is one missile launcher vehicle in ctp2 the sam launcher
However i think the V2 rocket launcher would be a cool unit maybe a UU unit after the discovery of Rocketry.

P.S. What does the satelite rocket laucher unit thing do in Civ3?? I think it attacks cities from very long range, could do the same for the V2

	13-10-2002 21:12									#95
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Woohoo im prince yay does this mean i can have a custom avatar ??? or is that King?

	13-10-2002 21:30									#96
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No, you need 500 posts for an avatar, that shouldnt be too hard for you yeh spammer

Custom Avatars are so passe

	13-10-2002 21:32									#97
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quote: Originally posted by SMIFFGIG Nova the landmine idea has been suggested for a long time, Activision where going to implement landmines, sea mines and space mines into ctp1. However the AI would have no chance of handling the idea, thats why they scrapped it. They even made a unit which wasnt implemented calle the "Combat engineer" which looks very cool and would be good as a genetic age+ engineer. However it is holding a mine detector which would just be silly if there where no mines in the game.

I think such ab idea can implemented into the game, it just needs time to teach the AI to use it and that was the problem that the CTP1 programers faced.

quote: Originally posted by SMIFFGIG Woohoo im prince yay does this mean i can have a custom avatar ??? or is that King?

No you need 200 more post to be allowed to use a costum avatar, so you need to be a half king.

-Martin

	14-10-2002 21:06									#98
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To implement mines could be easy just right a bit of slic that reduces a random amount of hp off the unit that way an ai unit could get over the minefield repair itself then make a mess.

As for gaia bombs it takes around 3 to wipe a city out as they have the same attack as nukes the only defence being that in the const file I put a - in front of the nuke pollution factor as well as making a dummy dead tile which is really a copy of a FOREST.

	19-10-2002 20:27									#99
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I have some ideas for government-specific units..

Some governments could build genetically engineered 'genome soldiers', basically cheap but powerful assault troops. But most goverment types dont allow them, as they are against mass-cloning and genetic manipulation for military means.

Technocracy could build some kind of A.I robot infantry like the terminators or something of that kind. It would be fairly powerful, but would have some kind of drawback for being an AI unit.

Also some governments could build genetic horrors, biological attack contructs, something evil and nasty like the zerg from starcraft. These would be fairly powerful and have a habit of eating the entire population of enemy cities. But of course only the most hard-core military governments could build these.

Also I think some kind of religious fanatic unit could be made for theocracy, as well as the priest dude.

Just some ideas

	19-10-2002 22:53									#100
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quote: Some governments could build genetically engineered 'genome soldiers', basically cheap but powerful assault troops. But most goverment types dont allow them, as they are against mass-cloning and genetic manipulation for military means.

This reminds me of when i used to have a werewolf elite unit in my mod for those who developed Genetic Tailoring
Gee, what was i thinking!?!

	21-10-2002 21:13									#101
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All my units on hell to come are robots I found I did not have as many problems with there being no bad happiness points for losing a robot unit.

And what about using the dinosaur units form test of time and a mutate capacity. Just deploy the attack on a city and watch the pop go down and mutate to dinosaurs.

	24-11-2002 04:57									#102
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Some interesting discution in the Test of time forum that i have been keeping an eye on.


Looks promising and could be converted, although the units are crap quality
Take a look here:
Understanding Tot Sprite File Format

Ive had a go trying to convert Civ3 units, but just cant get to grips with it, I will give it another go though

-James

	25-11-2002 22:03									#103
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oh and ive obtained a copy of Civ3 PTW Expansion, so if anyone wants me to post units (theres quite a few new ones in the scenarios dirs etc) then i will

Big Mac didnt you want those Dinos, theres loads of them

Allosaur
Deinoychus
Parasaur
Raptor
Stegasaur
Trex
Anklyosaur
Gallumus
Plateosaur
Spinosaur
Torosaur
Triceratops

(and no i didnt just make half those names up)

-James

	26-11-2002 01:28									#104
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smifig were the site. I am inactivating at the moment with a mixture of my home pc being on its last legs and five hundreds of assignments.

	27-11-2002 15:46									#105
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No you did not make them up. Spinosaur is the one form Jurassic park 3 and most of the other ones I know off I so want the Anklyosaur as it was an tank like creature very hard.

	27-11-2002 17:49									#106
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any dino ciys / terain

	27-11-2002 19:51									#107
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i setup a free site at 150m.com thinking dumbly (as they wanted me too) i was getting 100mb free web storage. However i set up a basic web page then it hits me i actually have 2mb storage, so i cant upload the dinos there ill upload them here.

Nope no nothing dino except the units i mentioned, PTW is the worst expansion i have ever seen for any game(seriously). Dino's are involved in 1 only 1 of the crap scenarios and it is a standard game in all aspects (except non random map, although it looks random) only that the barbarians are dinosaurs i mean wtf, they are is the normal barb camp (little village thing) with a dino standing in it, same attack etc as a warrior (which are the first barbs). Sorry but a little better scenario could have been done with that many units..... ANYWAY onto subject

Ill upload (run, attack_a, fidget and death) for Anklyosaur

DO U WANT THE SOUNDS TOO ?

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	27-11-2002 19:56									#108
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Anklyosaur Attack

As I said already Big Mc your avatar is superb (shame its not background transparent though)

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	27-11-2002 19:57									#109
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Anklyosaur death

SOUNDS TOO ???

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	27-11-2002 20:13									#110
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Here we are Big Mc, your avatar with no white background (i think it looks better

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	28-11-2002 11:57									#111
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One thing to remember: early forms of most weapons were impractical. Arquebus were around from the early 1400s, and clunky guns long before that. The first effective Musketeer unit was the Russian Streltzy used to defeat the Sibersk Mongols in 1586. That is a 200 year latency. The airplanes and tanks of WWI were ineffective as fighting units on the strategic scale, serving as infantry support and recon (respectively). There was a 20 year latency before effective combat tanks and aircraft appeared.

The option to develop the tech first appearing in your tech screen is the first primitive use. The unit appears when your military finally restructures to accomodate the new idea.

BTW, Musketeers didn't need pikemen for defense against cavalry because tight formations can break a cavalry charge without physical contact. Horses are trying to run through the gaps when spurred into a charge, and if they don't see any gaps they pull up. The Russians sent 1500 unsupported Streltzy against 6000+ Mongol cavalry garrison and won.

OTOH, you can bet early musketeers carried swords and axes for close combat (hence the swashbuckling Frenchmen of fiction and film). The bayonet was a great innovation because it made the musket a good melee weapon at little expense, and integrated melee training with musket drill.

If you don't want to rush through the three century musket era it can be broken down into two to four distinct periods. You might stretch planes and armor into 3 periods before you're into future tech.

	28-11-2002 20:48									#112
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you can use my web site for the hosting i thinck i got some space left out of my 250 meg i will pm you about it now.

	29-11-2002 17:26									#113
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Rather than seeing some new units, I would like to see a few units redone. The Crossbowman is an example. I think that the unit is really some kind of Arquebus with a different .wav file for the shooting. Plus, the green and yellow color are...less than attractive!

	02-12-2002 22:12									#114
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is there any in civ3?

	02-12-2002 22:36									#115
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smiffgig an avatar for you

	03-12-2002 01:56									#116
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Dare i say it, i have VERY quickly fixed (ill say tiedied) up your War Walker animatioin avatar

FAR!!! from perfect but just abit of quick messing with

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	03-12-2002 09:25									#117
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Looks like the first one is trying (unsuccessfully) to do the "Moonwalk" ??

Smiffy, yours looks like it has a limp. Battle damage?

	04-12-2002 00:09									#118
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Oh im sorry i just have to post it for a second time incase anyone missed

My avatar to be

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	04-12-2002 07:29									#119
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quote: Originally posted by Straybow Looks like the first one is trying (unsuccessfully) to do the "Moonwalk" ??

	04-12-2002 13:47									#120
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How many posts to Avatar heaven SMIFFGIG?