12-01-2005 08:40									#1651
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quote: OK, first we need to talk about that CtP1 Cow avatar...

Well, I'm not giving it up for free, but I don't see why we can't share it.

	13-01-2005 02:30									#1652
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Well, if we just keep spamming posting in this thread you'll get custom avatar priveleges...

	13-01-2005 23:20									#1653
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Sorry, I have problems with time.
I will try to play on Friday evening...if not on Saturday about noon.

	13-01-2005 23:42									#1654
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Don't worry ST!
Peaster and Straybow can go on (spamming) entertaining us in the meantime

	15-01-2005 18:46									#1655
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Sorry for being late.

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	17-01-2005 13:59									#1656
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I received a map sent by my faithful ally, the Hittite archer, and opened it to have a look, since my own map was obsolete.
By mistake I opened the map in MP mode instead of SP, which showed me some units moving that I wouldn't have seen otherwise before next turn, I suppose.
Nothing much, but I wished to tell you (also wished to tell you that I will take care never to do that again; also wished to tell the Persian leader that his horseman who apparently killed one of my sissie skirmishers should have reported to his leader who should have reported to me, or am I wrong?).

	17-01-2005 14:20									#1657
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quote: Originally posted by La Fayette I received a map sent by my faithful ally, the Hittite archer, and opened it to have a look, since my own map was obsolete. By mistake I opened the map in MP mode instead of SP, which showed me some units moving that I wouldn't have seen otherwise before next turn, I suppose. Nothing much, but I wished to tell you (also wished to tell you that I will take care never to do that again; also wished to tell the Persian leader that his horseman who apparently killed one of my sissie skirmishers should have reported to his leader who should have reported to me, or am I wrong?).

Ehrmm... would this unit be killed between your last save and you getting the new map? That would seem pretty impossible .
Or was this unit killed by the renegade civ that moved during your improper opening of the save?
Or do we have a Ctrl-N issue here? (in which case you are very late to report it)

Thanks for your honesty, and be carefull next time

Will post within 24 hours, I'm almost done.

	17-01-2005 19:26									#1658
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quote: Originally posted by germanos was this unit killed by the renegade civ that moved during your improper opening of the save?

I guess this is what happened.
All I can say is that my skirmisher was alive and in good health in 2860.

	17-01-2005 20:42									#1659
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LaFayette,

I don't think my horseman killed your skirmisher - at least not by my instructions. I did not see any of your units last turn.

I DL'd the Bab save and did not see any Minoan units on that map either.

	17-01-2005 20:50									#1660
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La Fayette, Straybow swapped maps with you, then you loaded his save. Is this correct?
So your sissie skirmisher was killed after you opened the save in MP mode?
And after you opened it in SP mode - was the skirmisher missing too?

BTW there is another way how to invoke an identical problem: if you are at end-of-turn and you launch it by error (you click on the status window). This may be done quite easily!

	17-01-2005 23:51									#1661
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Did that once... hit Ctrl-Alt-Del to kill it before it showed me anything

* Straybow mumbles: says something about an operating system that Win users have such practiced expertise with that key combo...

	18-01-2005 01:34									#1662
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Rather uneventfull turn, nothing to report.


at all the rumoured killing going around


As for Peaster replacing Stephan: I'm happy with it, as I have been from the moment he showed up. Since his permanent replacement has been pushed back ever since Stephan left, I'll stick to the general consensus and start dealing with him properly after his next turn. (expecting him to finish it before the end of the month )


Regarding the loading of saves when it's not your turn: from other PBEM's I'm aware that if you load a game in SP but fail to select your own civ, you may very well end up with a map of the selected civ .
Be carefull guys , and memorize Straybow's method

Playing in good faith ,

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	18-01-2005 02:02									#1663
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quote: Originally posted by germanos Be carefull guys , and memorize Straybow's method

Another good method is to close eyes, hit Alt-F4, down arrow, enter.

quote: Regarding the loading of saves when it's not your turn: from other PBEM's I'm aware that if you load a game in SP but fail to select your own civ, you may very well end up with a map of the selected civ

I think the problem is similar like opening in MP mode.
Anyway you have to go through the window with the leader name, so I think a danger is low.

	18-01-2005 02:11									#1664
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quote: Originally posted by SlowThinker I think the problem is similar like opening in MP mode. Anyway you have to go through the window with the leader name, so I think a danger is low.

Sure.

Except for Hatta

(being the victim I mean. I think this would be a proper reason for the first player to password their civ )

	18-01-2005 11:49									#1665
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Egypt celebrates the acquistion of two new Vassal city-states in Canaan, Megiddo and Jerusalem. Rich though they are in Olive Oil and Wool, the revenues reaching the Royal Treasury are far less than anticipated - greasy palms and sticky fingers seem to be taking their corrupt toll! Pharoah is not pleased!!

The Son of Horus notes the arrival of a Minoan trade ship at the mouth of the Nile. King Minos is reminded that foreigners - including their vessels - are prohibited from traveling into the Egyptian heartland without prior approval.

Elsewhere, Pharoah apologizes in advance for the encroachment of Egyptian units into Babylonian lands, and promises that our chariots will immediately vacate the vicinity of Eridu next turn (we had no idea it was there!)

As per prior agreement, peace has been negotiated with Persia, and Pharoah would like to establish similar relations with Minos (currently our relationship is characterized as "cease fire", which seems needlessly hostile). Minos may contact Pharoah through his representative, "AI", or Egypt can initiate the peace if that is preferred - please be gracious enough to send a reply by trusted messenger (answers to a prior request seem to have been lost or delayed).

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	18-01-2005 21:35									#1666
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Pharoah,

The Persians consider peace with Egypt another good reason to celebrate. We have just met the Minoans and find them a rather timid race. We are certain that, if you can find them, they will also welcome peace with Egypt.

Our horsemen waited for them a fortnight in an agreed-upon field. We saw and heard nothing, except for strange moaning sounds at night, like those of dying men. Finally our scouts found the Minoan skirmishers alive and well, hiding behind some bushes. We assured them that we meant them no harm, and soon the leaders were sharing drinks around a fire.

[I will post my save as soon as the server allows it. Maybe I can email it to kengel, too.]

	19-01-2005 01:09									#1667
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Straybow, Kull, kengel, La Fayette you are asked about your opinion to Persian civilization.

BTW Last week I sent an e-mail to Stefan where I warned him that I started a debate about Persia. But no answer yet.
Anyway we should warn Stefan first and give him a time limit to return (like end of January) IMO.

	19-01-2005 03:34									#1668
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quote: Originally posted by SlowThinker we should warn Stefan first and give him a time limit to return (like end of January) IMO.

This is my opinion

	19-01-2005 08:38									#1669
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I emailed my save to kengel this morning.

I clicked "post reply" all thru the day, trying to post the save here, but kept getting time-out error messages. Finally I clicked on a "quote" button instead, and it seems that works.

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	19-01-2005 09:22									#1670
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Peaster's been pretty diligent for 3 months now, and has certainly earned the right to get final resolution on his status. That said, Stefan was one of the original players in the PBEM, and did provide us a "due back" status in early November:

quote: Originally posted by Stefan Härtel Guys, thought I'd let you know that I'm still very tied up in things here. I hope to be back in January, but I can't say. Rock on.

This was his last "in-thread" comment on the subject of a return, and since it's still January, I think it's worth giving him the benefit of the doubt and holding off on a permanent transfer to Peaster until February 1st. (which should be automatic if Stefan doesn't reply to emails or show up here before then).

	19-01-2005 09:30									#1671
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GASP!!

Pharoah verges on heart failure as he notes that FOUR civs have played within a FOUR day period!!

	21-01-2005 02:25									#1672
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Here we are again...
Thanks a lot to Sparrowhawk for the last turn management
Oh, I told you to greet them with all I have. GREET! Not BEAT ...

quote: Originally posted by Sparrowhawk Hopefully I did everything okay, he told me to attack everyone on this turn, but I couldn't quite reach everyone so I just attacked those civs I could access * Sparrowhawk

Nothing new from the usual sleeping greek...

	22-01-2005 20:51									#1673
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Contrary to their lazy neighbours, Minoan fishermen are busy, busy, busy

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	24-01-2005 00:43									#1674
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quote: Straybow, Kull, kengel, La Fayette you are asked about your opinion to Persian civilization. BTW Last week I sent an e-mail to Stefan where I warned him that I started a debate about Persia. But no answer yet. Anyway we should warn Stefan first and give him a time limit to return (like end of January) IMO.

No objections here. Would be nice to keep the original players as long as possible, but if not c'est le vie.

(Have save, waiting on some feedback)

	24-01-2005 05:34									#1675
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"c'est la vie"

(please, correct my mistakes )

	25-01-2005 03:07									#1676
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I was eager to play, opened the Minoan save (in SP mode. Or MP? SP? MP? SP!) ... and...

Workers replaced in Babylon
During the LF's turn. Don't tell me LF hits F11 again and again and hopes we will offer him gold so that he stops. I think there is rather another problem that SparrowHawk didn't find. Or La Fayette has a cat...

	25-01-2005 10:27									#1677
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Yes, I have also found workers out of place (and it was a critical error). Checked Persian and Greek saves: problem occurred on Minoan turn.

It must be something about the French version (danged Frogs )

[Napoleon Dynamite mode]
Gawd, you're ruining my life!
[/Napoleon]

Maybe we need to make a safety cover for the F11 key.

	25-01-2005 12:57									#1678
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quote: Originally posted by SlowThinker Or La Fayette has a cat...

I have two cats
I replay right now (and none of my cats will be allowed to come close to my computer any longer)

	25-01-2005 13:31									#1679
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No cat, no F11, here it is
(please let me know if it's OK)

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	25-01-2005 23:54									#1680
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All clear here (don't know if it was messed up in the first place )

quote: It must be something about the French version

You may be on to something...?


Don't chat during turns LaFayette!