22-11-2004 10:28									#1561
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I did read this, and I will post a save tomorrow evening if you do not .

I posted more as a bump to remind kengel then anything else.

* Sparrowhawk

	23-11-2004 00:10									#1562
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thanks, gentlemen, for waiting!

No big news though...
Enjoy

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	23-11-2004 22:56									#1563
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The sissie Minoan skirmisher ran away so fast that no one is going to meet him on the "great Eastern Road" any longer
...and Minos salutes the hospitable Pharaoh.

(he also swears he didn't touch F11 )

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	26-11-2004 17:07									#1564
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I got a file from Straybow and will restore shields.

	26-11-2004 22:29									#1565
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Here is the unmodified save, just so everything is kosher.

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	27-11-2004 00:00									#1566
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At last...

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	28-11-2004 01:20									#1568
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Last turn I got a unit via CivDip, this turn I applied the activating barter ... and the unit is lost.
In the morning I sent an e-mail to Yaroslav, but he is probably out for the weekend.

Edit:
(The unit is deep in the desert and I could live without it but it looks there may be some bug in CivDip and this should be checked out)

Last edited by SlowThinker on 28-11-2004 at 01:25

	29-11-2004 02:22									#1569
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Perseat "Who are these strange Greek horsemen, who drink our mocca, try to slip past our sentries, and refuse to meet with us?"

Cyrius "They are barbarian invaders! We must slay them!"

Perseat "You cannot be serious, Cyrius! They are probably just wandering poets."

Cyrius "We shall see..."

	30-11-2004 00:12									#1570
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Lost unit:
SparrowHawk was kind and promised to look at saves using cheat mode.

	30-11-2004 00:14									#1571
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sorry, bad post

	30-11-2004 08:16									#1572
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Ctrl-D and see if somebody killed it.

	30-11-2004 09:57									#1573
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Okay, I sent Slowthinker a message letting him know that I am unsuccessful so far.

I don't know how to open it in cheat mode (as it is a multiplayer game). I know there is a way to do so.......but I don't even know where to start.

If anyone sees this very soon I will happily try again.......but I need some help!

* Sparrowhawk

	30-11-2004 10:02									#1574
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Open it like a SP game (Load Game in the main window - then change .sav to .net). Then switch on Scenario mode and cheat mode will be available.

	30-11-2004 10:15									#1575
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Okay, that was too simple a solution I guess I was looking for something more complex

I sent a reply to Slowthinker, and hopefully it helps.

* Sparrowhawk

	01-12-2004 11:12									#1576
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Many thanks to SparrowHawk.
SparrowHawk found out the unit was lost somewhere after the first use of CivDip. In 2880 the unit changed colors, but in 2870 it doesn't exist.
I don't think anybody killed it since I am in 'war' by Civ2 terms with Assyrians only and germanos reports nothing.
(SparrowHawk, could you still check the last save so that we know the exact moment of disappearance?)

I suspected the unit was lost because it was on square that is black on my map and so I run a test on a testing map and vanilla civ. The unit in black didn't disappear, but it wasn't never awakened. So the disappearance is not illuminated, but don't pass units that should be awakened in black.

But what to do now? The unit is not very important, but still I would prefer to have it... but I don't know what to do next...
1. Replay of last year - that doesn't sound
2. Conjure the unit in scenario/cheat mode - this was rejected already (in Straybow' case}
3. hexediting - I can't add a new unit - it is not so easy.

	01-12-2004 11:35									#1577
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quote: Originally posted by SlowThinker (SparrowHawk, could you still check the last save so that we know the exact moment of disappearance?)

Sure......but which one is "the last save"........the last one you emailed to me?

* Sparrowhawk

	01-12-2004 12:19									#1578
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SparrowHawk, I e-mailed you bab-2880-start.net after those 4 saves.

	02-12-2004 02:09									#1579
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I got an idea::

I will count turns of movement of my 'virtual' (lost) unit and after it comes in my city I will create it by hexediting (adding shields to a production).
Any objections?

	02-12-2004 22:12									#1580
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	04-12-2004 17:49									#1581
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The Ammonites have build a new city in the hills overlooking the Jordan.

The Governor of Assyrian Colonies and Vassal States expresses his displeasement of Egyptian Caravans travelling east of the Jordan. Presumably they are heading north. These traders are not welcome. When Assyrian traders landed in Egypt in a quest for a tavern to sell their wine (a trip approved by Pharaoh) they received an outright hostile welcome. Roadblocks and a complete unwillingness by the Egyptian populace or officials to even answer the simplest of questions (and this over the course of 30 years) have not been forgotten. The Egyptian traders should turn back and look elsewhere for a place to sell their goods.

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	04-12-2004 17:51									#1582
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quote: Originally posted by SlowThinker I got an idea:: I will count turns of movement of my 'virtual' (lost) unit and after it comes in my city I will create it by hexediting (adding shields to a production). Any objections?

Fine. You can use the cheatmode as well. I have stopped caring.

	04-12-2004 19:04									#1583
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Cheatmode:
1) Also Kull objected against it
2) I am not sure if there is no side effect. The idea is to open a save in SP mode, cheat, save as scenario, continue in playing. But I have a suspicion a scenario is always started by white player and so changes should be done after the violet player. Kull, you should know more about this?

	05-12-2004 05:22									#1584
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I guess Civ2Dip should note that transfering units need to be in a tile "visible" to the receiving party.

quote: I have stopped caring.

Let's not despair. This is a mechanistic error of some sort.

	06-12-2004 07:08									#1585
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Pharaoah makes due note of the Assyrian diplomatic tone (and it's glaring omission of "the other half of the story"), and has directed the caravan to turn south.

As to the "missing" Babylonian unit, so long as Sparrowhawk is apprised of the circumstances and can verify that nothing untoward has occurred, the use of hex-editing shoudn't be a problem (cheatmode is obviously verboten). In a related event, one of Pharoah's chariots encountered a Babylonian unit in the desert that did not have a ZOC - perhaps this is the unit?

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	06-12-2004 11:50									#1586
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quote: Originally posted by Kull Pharaoah makes due note of the Assyrian diplomatic tone (and it's glaring omission of "the other half of the story"), and has directed the caravan to turn south.

An envoy has been send to Egypt in an attempt to find out what this other side of the story is.

	06-12-2004 12:51									#1587
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Despite the threatening sound of drums in the West, the Persians are celebrating the new town of Pasargadae - as well as several exciting ideas brought in by wise men of foreign lands. We are erecting obelisks and steles in honor of the Assyrians, Babylonians and Hittites - and we have another planned for the Egyptians.


The people are somewhat relieved that the mysterious Greeks have moved on without incident. But soon we hope to meet with another strange race from the western seas, the fabled MinnowOnes.

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	06-12-2004 12:53									#1588
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The attachment:

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	06-12-2004 23:59									#1589
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quote: Originally posted by Peaster [2004] I have had a hard time downloading files from Apolyton lately. This one took about 10 tries. Is anyone else having trouble? [/2004]

Nope.



If Stephan is to return, I think he should erect the biggest stèle for you

	07-12-2004 03:39									#1590
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I would like to have a village named after me... maybe something like "Persetpolis"