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kengel is offline kengel
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Aug 1999
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The "make food & kids" program plan of the greek shows first positive results-
our cities are growing finally, after centuries of hard starving.

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Sure. You can PM your password to me and I will DL the saves from here.

Peaster, you traitor!

Kull, you cheater! You have to announce changed city names.

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No city names changed.
Knossos will remain Knossos for ever (I hope ).

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Mar 1999
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Kull, you cheater! You have to announce changed city names.


To fully eradicate the memory of Assyrian occupation, the Phoenician cities of ikni and Tartous have been renamed Byblos and Tyre. Long may they grow and prosper!

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I'm alive, just delayed a bit. I shall play and post on the morrow.

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There may be a problem with the save: foreign units moved before my turn started. Will consult with the nation involved...

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A mixed report from Anatolia. A unit of trusted Horsemen perished with the braying of donkeys in their ears. How ignoble! The viziers feel certain that marauding Assyrians will not trouble the Hatte much longer.

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This year no Assyrian city decided to join the Babylonian empire But in swimming pool of Ur our charioteers are training riding in rivers. Unfortunately the vehicles are rusting...

The Tigris' squad wanted to visit Arraphka. One Assyrian unit was trampled. The esteemed Zedanu is suggested not to allow his units to walk freely in the cities.

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Lots of things happening in RL so play may be delayed a bit. Will try tonight but I may not be able to get in any time until friday afternoon.

Will Keep you posted.

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Mar 1999
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A bit OT, but I sure hope none of you guys live (or have family) down in the path of Hurricane Katrina. I was on a business trip to Biloxi just a few months ago, and stayed at one of those huge floating casinos. Television barely does justice to the size of those things - the force required to throw them around like toys is almost beyond comprehension.

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received from Zedanu by a courier
The will of our enemy?

I congratulate the ruler of Babylon on an expertly played game of diplomacy and negotiation. There is no doubt that your cunning "alliance" has benefited Babylon on many levels and resulted in its great rise to power. Assyria recognizes Babylon as the new world power and thus recognizes its own impending defeat.

Therefore I inquire, what will be the extent of your assault? Would Babylon (and thus the "alliance") be willing to negotiate peace? Or shall we continue until Assyria is no more? Understand that I am willing to follow either course, but my people are smothered in war and beg for peace.

Discuss it with your disciples if you must, and Assyria will wait for word of any terms for peaceful surrender.


Dear neighbour,

I am sure you can perceive our "cunning alliance" didn't arise because of a Babylonian will but because of the Didanu's malicious attack.
Concerning the power, yes, Babylonian economists welcome the fact that our total production increased from a third of the Assyrian total production to a half.

We are greeting that Assyria is prepared to a surrender. But the alliance offered a peace conditions once and they weren't accepted. Later Babylon warned that our peace conditions grew each turn and our will for peace wouldn't last forever, but still without an answer from Assyria.
Now Babylonian generals believe we are strong enough to capture all the cities up to Nineveh (pressuming Egypt will continue its attack and other Kings will open new fronts too), Babylonian businessmen are looking forward to get new markets, our foreign creditors expect Babylon will pay by gold (which we don't have enough for all the creditors) or by land, farmers and cities and Assyrian people in Hourigalzur and Zibbar say that they welcome liberation from Nineveh's tyranny...

So expect the peace conditions will be debated within the alliance but Babylon will ask they are very hard (and one condition will be that Didanu must be extradited to Babylon alive or dead ).

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The "Vicious attack" by Didanu has been much debated and is a mute point. If the will of Babylon....... I mean " the Alliance" is to carry thier rant to the its ultimate end Then Assyria will meet it, and If we go it will not be quietly.

Be Warned nations of the alliance, an apetite for Power is never satisfied, only intensified.

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I supposed my dear brother had finally understood no Power may beat the rest of the world...

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Discuss it with your disciples if you must, and Assyria will wait for word of any terms for peaceful surrender.


Does King Zedanu hereby request an extension of his turn while the alliance debates the message from Assyria?

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I do not wish to hold the game too long and do not know what my opportunities for playing will be like after the long weekend, so I have allready taken my turn on the assumption that peace will not be found this turn.

I will post the save ASAP.

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We were hit by Katrina while it was still just category 1. No huge problems, except that our internet connection is down. From my office, I should be able to DL the Egyptian save on Wednesday 9/7 and post a reply Monday 9/12 (maybe earlier). I will answer email if possible on those days.

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the save file

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Egyptian forces continue the pause in operations, as new forces arrive at the front and chariots are repaired and refitted.

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With some help, I am able to post much earlier than expected. Not much new this year. Except that a reckless band of Persian skirmishers has gone missing in a region south of the Zagros mountains formerly known as Assyria.

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Just another boring year for the greek....
Nothing new.

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Just a little bump

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Some problems with my connection.
Almost certainly able to play tomorrow.

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A Minoan merchant ship sailing west of the island of Cyprus just met a powerful Assyrian bireme. The Minoan sailors found that rather scary, but hey noticed very soon that the Assyrians looked much more hungry and thirsty than willing to fight. They fed them, gave them water and also some wine, and started talking about the gold that was in a coffer onboard the Minoan ship.
A few coins were enough to convince the Assyrians to join the Minoan Navy.

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The Alliance Against Violence ended the talks.
By voting a majority decided Assyria must be punished, cities burned, men tortured and killed, women tortured and raped and children enslaved.
Let us fight against violence without a mercy! Violence deserves no debates but death.

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Rules corner

In past I talked about some rules with individual players. I didn't start a debate here because I thought these rules weren't important or were clear or you appeared to be pissed by rules discusions...
But now it looks we have a free time

1)
IMO in a MP session during a turn of another player you should not manage your civ. (For example you could raise your arrows in a city so that a caravan may be delivered and then set workers back to food and shields.)

2)
The current rules allow to reveal the map of the starting save (in cheat mode or map editor). This is because some players don't know this scenario but others have played it many times or have created it or tested it. So this rule should erase the advantage of experienced players.
I suppose it is allowed to try anything in cheat mode with the starting save (not only to reveal the map but for example to create units besides a barb that you want to kill but you are not sure how the barb is strong). Reason why this should be allowed is that anything you can manage by cheat mode you can manage also by playing a new SP game.

3)
Ending alliances
The diplomacy through an AI (the F3 window) prevents sneak attacks when allied: When you end an alliance all units are withdrawn to owner's cities. I think teleporting of units is never good since it could be used as an exploit but there should be some rule that will prevent a direct attack of an allied civ:
I suggest that an alliance may be finished only by sending a special CivDip barter to the ally. The receiving civ must always apply this barter.
This way the receiving civ (i.e. a civ that didn't initialize the end of the alliance) moves (and can attack) first.
(I suppose CivDip doesn't move any unit, only deletes the alliance status)

Please post comments.

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The Alliance Against Violence ended the talks.
By voting a majority decided Assyria must be punished, cities burned, men tortured and killed, women tortured and raped and children enslaved.
Let us fight against violence without a mercy! Violence deserves no debates but death.


Password is obear..........


I'm out.

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Zedanu,

your decision is a surprise for me:
quote:
If the will of Babylon....... I mean " the Alliance" is to carry thier rant to the its ultimate end Then Assyria will meet it, and If we go it will not be quietly.


Assyria needs a ruler so that it doesn't fall in disorder and in hands of anarchistic AI-sects. After Assyria is conquered we don't plan to torture you with Didanu but there is an asyle prepared for you.
But if you leave the government be sure sooner or later we will find you and the fate of Didanu will follow!

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Forgive me, that post was made at the end of a long-long day,& 1/2 asleep.

I had intended to make a full surrender, seeing that the goal of the game was now to destroy assyria.

Frankly some bad game play on my part has left Assyria with only a marginal chance of surviving at all. My last two decisions were to A: play on and let starvation and calculated destruction rob the alliance of any signifficant property & gold, or B: admit the defeat and fly the white flag. The last post was INTENDED to be the white flag.

If the surrender is not acceptable then I will play on, there are still some "tricks" up the Assyrian sleves, but This IS the ultimate conclusion. If I could replay some of those early turns I could possibly make a difference, but hind site is 20/20.

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Sorry to intrude. Kull, would you check your PM's please?

 
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