01-07-2005 16:30									#2041
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No worries,

I checked the two saves and all that I would loose is some citizen placement and 1 move from 2 units. I think your save would be more crucial since you have combat opps so I will just pay more attention next time.

	01-07-2005 20:42									#2042
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Clap! Clap! We played an entire cycle in a week!

Sinbad settles into his palace in Ecbatana, but gazes longingly over the mountains, where he knows great battles are being fought without him.

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	02-07-2005 02:56									#2043
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As painful as it would be to deliberately take the same beating, Pharoah is willing to repeat his turn for Zedd's sake. But there is one concern - the units you moved after this save. Is it possible they would affect the Egyptian Theatre of war? If units suddenly appeared in my path, that would be a problem. Not only couldn't I repeat the turn exactly, but it might have changed the actions I did take.

Also, I won't be able to play until monday or tuesday.

So basically it's Zedd's call.

Edit: Just spotted "Zedd's Call"...the game continues!

	05-07-2005 03:45									#2044
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Business as usual...

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	07-07-2005 03:53									#2045
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Business as usual = an Assyrian ship wandering along the southern coast of Anatolia has been sent to the bottom

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	07-07-2005 23:28									#2046
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Alas, business is a bit slower than usual. In the West the city of Troy is sacked. The victorious general brings slaves and plunder to Hattusas, and is celebrated a hero in all Hatte. A Greek princess was found and returned to Mycenaea.

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	07-07-2005 23:39									#2047
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I will be gone for over a week on a missions support team to Prince of Wales Island, Alaska. The earliest I'll be able to play next is Tue 19 July. I might be able to check PMs during that time.

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	08-07-2005 18:18									#2048
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Indeed, quarters in Kurigalzu were repaired. We heard the Assyrian masons must feed many children, and so we prepared more work for them.
Assyrian offered us several targets this turn:
Kurigalzu and two units near the end of the wide Tigris (a part of Tigris where our boats are able sail): a Chariot II on a river and a Horse in a swamp. The horse was too easy for our mighty armies and the fortified Chariot in the river area was too tough. So we chose Kurigalzu. Happy repairing.

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	08-07-2005 21:33									#2049
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Indeed the casualties in Kurigalzu are difficult to bear.

I will be out until monday night so no post until then.
I did get a quick look at the save file and I have a couple cities that should have grown in POP that did not. The food boxes are full but there was no growth.

Likewise I noticed last turn that while my food boxes seem full I han't noticed any growth in cities. Am I missing something here?

Rought example. Last turn city A had 36/40 food and produces 7 that turn. result = 40 food and no new citizens.

City B has 40/40 food produces 3 food per turn, result = 40/40 food and no citizen.

I will double check against earlier saves but I have only noticed city growth once since playing as assyria and I am

	09-07-2005 05:59									#2050
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quote: Originally posted by Zedd Rought example. Last turn city A had 36/40 food and produces 7 that turn. result = 40 food and no new citizens.

That's normal. You must wait one more turn when the foodbox is full.

quote: Originally posted by Zedd City B has 40/40 food produces 3 food per turn, result = 40/40 food and no citizen.

Do you check at start of your turn? Cities aren't processed yet at end of my turn (if you look in a SP mode)
Maybe SparrowHawk could check it... He can play only Assyrians with 6 AIs.

	10-07-2005 10:54									#2051
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Travel Warning:

I'll be in Jackson Hole, Wyoming from Sunday 7/10 thru Saturday 7/16. At this point the availability of internet access is unknown, so hopefully you can wait until my return. If not (gulp) then Sparrowhawk might as well do the Control-N right after Zedd's play.

	10-07-2005 14:56									#2052
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Maybe you could give instructions to SH to play Egyptians?

	11-07-2005 18:51									#2053
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Good News, I've got a connection! So I'll just wait for Zedd to play and will take my turn as normal.

	11-07-2005 23:17									#2054
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quote: Originally posted by SlowThinker Maybe you could give instructions to SH to play Egyptians?

"SH"? I guess you mean SparrowHawk, but these are also my RL initials (and Stephan's).

Kull and Zedd - A hurricane has knocked out our ISP for the last 2-3 days, so I cannot play easily until that is fixed. In other words, I may be slow too, so don't rush your next move.

	12-07-2005 17:02									#2055
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Dennis has also caused some trouble here. Comcast is finally working so I will play and post this evening.

	13-07-2005 04:06									#2056
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Disturbing news from Nineva,

An epeditionary force assembled in a fortress allong the Babylonian boarder and set to assail our enemys, has reluctantly been recalled to Kurigalzu to secure the city. In addition production orders in nearby city's were expedited to produce the chariots our noble warriors will need.

Near Ikni Egyptian invaders have been detered by vigilant Chariot II's

Else where disruption begins to show its face as more of the military is sent to the front rather than policing the cities.

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	13-07-2005 21:27									#2057
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Egyptian chariots continue to build up near the front lines - the hammer blow will soon fall.......

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	14-07-2005 22:13									#2058
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RULES

Here are new revised version of rules about unit giving. Post comments please.

A unit never consumes a shield of support if it is homed in a foreign city (this happens with CivDip usage). After a unit is unfreezed you should avoid that shield of support is saved this way.
(Ways how to rectify it:
the home city must "unhome" some units so that no shield support would be consumed (for example under Monarchy the city must support only 2 own units + the said foreign unit)
or the owner of the unit must rehome it to his own city (a fast trick how to rehome a unit is to connect online with ANY civ and to pass the unit back and forth)

Giving units forth and back within one MP session is forbidden. (This would rehome the unit quickly).
An exception: the unit was homed to a foreign civ (you are rehoming it this way - see last paragraph).

If you see any enemy unit (or a defended city of an enemy) 3 squares from your city then you can give only one unit homed in that city per turn.
An enemy civ = a civ you are in war with.

If caravan is passed to another civ it cannot be delivered if the revenue would be bigger than the revenue of the original owner. (This may happen due to the international bonus, no Bronze Weapons loss, no Persian culture loss etc.)

quote: Originally posted by SlowThinker I never used the foreign minister swap because I knew it needn't work. THerefore I didn't know about that. But I think creating NONE units by foreign minister swap should be forbidden

Only now I realized why I never used the foreign minister swap:

Rules version 3 say:
AI diplomacy is forbidden because units are teleported

	15-07-2005 08:17									#2059
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quote: Originally posted by SlowThinker RULES Giving units forth and back within one MP session is forbidden. (This would rehome the unit quickly). An exception: the unit was homed to a foreign civ (you are rehoming it this way - see last paragraph).

Can players also give back and forth when it doesn't rehome the unit, or when that is not the purpose ? For example, to reveal a small part of their map ?

quote: If caravan is passed to another civ it cannot be delivered if the revenue would be bigger than the revenue of the original owner. (This may happen due to the international bonus, no Bronze Weapons loss, no Persian culture loss etc.)[/i]

I don't argue about this, but I am curious - was the Persian Culture handicap put into the scenario intentionally ?

Thanks for your work, ST.

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Persia 2770BC - Sinbad is learning to relax at the palace with his new bride, Angelinae. However, he has ordered the construction of a new training camp in the high dry plains of Hamadan.

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For some reason my computer cannot get into Apolyton anymore. When I try, it attempts to download (but not open) the web page, which is a .php file, I guess. Does anyone have any idea what could cause this? I also cannot get in using Google - it says the Poly server is down. I have no problems with other websites.

I have already emailed my save to Kengel, but here it is for everyone else.

	15-07-2005 09:34									#2060
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quote: Originally posted by Peaster For some reason my computer cannot get into Apolyton anymore. When I try, it attempts to download (but not open) the web page, which is a .php file, I guess. Does anyone have any idea what could cause this? I also cannot get in using Google - it says the Poly server is down. I have no problems with other websites.

There is a thread on A/C (or HERE ) where several of us, including myself, have said that we are having the same problem .

* Sparrowhawk

	15-07-2005 15:47									#2061
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quote: Originally posted by Peaster Can players also give back and forth when it doesn't rehome the unit, or when that is not the purpose ? For example, to reveal a small part of their map?

Hm, it should be allowed if no rehoming.

I think it could be problematic to say what is exactly the purpose ... In other words I prefer rules are not dependend on subjective appraisal.

So this is a revised proposition:
Rehoming units by giving them forth and back within one MP session is forbidden.
An exception: the unit was homed to a foreign civ (you are rehoming it this way - see last paragraph).

If you prepared a swap that will allow to reveal a small part of a map then finish it of course. New rules may apply only after people prepare.

	16-07-2005 00:46									#2062
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A great event for greece:
One of our explorers met a new folk.
Friendly people indeed, with bronce colored faces, and of high cultural level it seems.
They call themselves "egypts".
If the great pharao will allow, our explorer will continue his journey along the border of the world, to finally find out if earth is a disk, or a rectangular (one of the crazy theories which some greek scientist believe in).
Enjoy turn!

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	16-07-2005 20:04									#2063
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mayday! mayday!
My last 3 e-mails to SlowThinker have been returned to sender.

	16-07-2005 20:07									#2064
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Try again ... or post a PM ...

	19-07-2005 06:12									#2065
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I travel in a few days and will be back Aug 2 (approx 3 to 5 days after Kull's next post, I guess). Let me know if I should ask Sparrowhawk to play my next turn. I may be able to play while away, but I can't be sure.

	19-07-2005 08:29									#2066
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The people gather on the beaches and clap when they glance at the new Minoan merchant ships surfing on the waves.
"Thank you, Minos, o wiser leader among the wiser leaders!"

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	22-07-2005 19:12									#2067
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Have one last transaction to complete with ally... will post ASAP

	24-07-2005 10:49									#2068
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The affairs of state have been complex but are, at long last, settled to our satisfaction. Our astrologers have intoned the mysterious sacred phrase "Control-Enn" to seal fates of nations.

Edit: removed erroneous save

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	24-07-2005 18:30									#2069
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I'll be away from 7/24 thru 7/29. Internet access will be intermittent , but I should still be able to play my turn. However, my usual email account won't be accessible, so please send email to "paul_cullivan(at sign goes here)raytheon.com"

	25-07-2005 04:24									#2070
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A small error was discovered by our vizier. As no King has yet downloaded the appropriate correction was made.

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