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TheBirdMan
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A real Master of CTP-PBEM - together with all the others.....
Sep 1999
time: 05:12
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Turn to Klair
This night, the vikings crossed our border, annihilating two english cities.
One of those was clearly on english land, the other just on the other side of the "borderline".
During our negotiations, the vikings wanted 200 gold each tile I occupied of "viking land". I offered a gift of 300 = more gold than the viking leader asked for.
Therefore, there was no reason for the vikings to attack me. I have lost a few units - but this is nothing to drop any tears for.
The viking leader proposed peace after his assault - I have rejected that.
I can only say this: I don't want this war - but I need time to think what to do now.
Chairman Bird.
Below the negotiations between me and the viking leader from 5.january to
the 16.january 2001.
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Sorry about the slight delay. In response to your offer, If 150 is you
starting price I would like to push that up to 200 or maybe 150 and an
advance. It would also be nice to know exactly where you are planning to
place your Cities as there barely seems room for three.
Regards,
Frazer
Subject: RE: Turn 139
> Thanks - I am withdrawing now. A little puzzeled about your sleeping settler, I did not expect one there, as there is only a wast forrest (I know all about that). Think he would do better a little further to the east (see below).
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> I need (almost) all the forrest southeast of my present border for 3 new cities. Leaving a security zone to you of 2 to 4 tiles and more than enough place to make a road/railroad between your cities. About 20-25 tiles all together for me - you keep all the shores and more than that.
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> If the prise is only gold, my starting offer would be around 150 gold/tile.
> And the right for you to keep the goods you already have - including the beaver colony, I just left (suitable for a settlement).
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> If you want some knowledge - please ask and give your suggesting to how many tiles that knowledge "represents". If I have it, we should surely find a compromise.
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> A diplomat would be welcome - making our dialog easier.
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> Chairman Bird
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> Sent: 13-01-2001 18:46
> Subject: Turn 139
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> Dear Mr Bird,
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> OK no excuses now, please withdraw and let me know what you want and are
> willing to offer.
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> Cheers,
> Frazer
Hi Bird,
It way my mistake I should have realised you were pined down. I will accept
your intention to move in good faith.
Cheers,
Fraze
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 6:58 AM
Subject: [ctpdc] Turn 138 to Klair.
> Sorry - Fraze. Couldn't move all you wanted.
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> Bird.
Dear neighbor
I am glad you have chosen to do this in a peaceful way rather than building cities and taking territory without my consent. First you must take action
to move your troops out. There was never any need for them to be so deep into my territory If you want up to date maps of my land you only have to
ask.
As you now have done your reconnaissance, you have the information you need and so you are free to make a proposal as to where you want a new city and
what you are prepared to offer. I will be very reasonable in considering any offer as good relations between us are important to me.
I must urge you to consider and make you request soon, as I also have a some citizens in the area who are looking for a new place to construct a city.
Regards
Frazer
Sent: Friday, January 05, 2001 8:40 AM
Subject: DC. English/viking border.
> Dear neighbour.
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> We both know, what did happen in the past. I do not want to get involved in another war with you.
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> I have not (yet) settled byond the borders of the socalled agreement. I have stated, that I will NOT attack the vikings - and I repeat this.
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> What I do need is more land. I have been forced to settle on ice and that is not that funny - I would like very much, if you would give a helping hand
to a neighbour by giving up a little of "your" zone of the forrest.
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> I am willing to pay an amount of gold for each tile - I think we could find a suitable sum. I'm willing to develop the forrest myself. I will allow a
diplomat of yours to patrol my borderzone closest to viking territory - just to keep you informed of my peaceful attitude.
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> What do you say to this?
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> If agree, I will call back the fortified troops between New Odense and Goteborg.
[This message has been edited by TheBirdMan (edited January 30, 2001).]
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St Jon
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BRIGHTON, UK
Aug 2000
time: 05:12
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PDRI Official Statement
I write this statement to the World in great sadness for the PDRI has
been forced to follow a path that she would rather never have embarked
upon. Last Turn we discovered what was clearly a French Invasion Fleet
grouped around Rennes1, destined for whom we did not know, but this Turn
all became clear.
Two French ships were sighted within one Tile of Liverpool and the aim
was clear. We could not permit a major City of our Ally's to fall into
French hands and therefore acted and sank these vessels. As Rennes1 was
clearly the centre of operations and lacking conventional forces within
strike range we were forced to take unilateral nuclear action. The City
of Le Mans, also a useful staging post for anti-PDRE coastal cities was
also targeted, but we stopped short of any strike upon major population
centres. Two other potentially hostile French Fleets were also engaged
with one utterlly destroyed and the other severely damaged.
As a peaceful, and peace loving, nation words cannot describe how
devastated we are to have been forced to take this action. However, the
World persists in the misguided belief that Ireland lacks the will to
put words into deeds and that an Alliance with her means any more than
the paper upon which it is written. This not so!
We hope that this will bring the World to it's senses and that all we
recognise the PDRI as being sincere in all her dealings with other
nations, be they friend or foe! It is to be hoped that recognition is
made of the limited nature of our actions and that peace will be
restored for we now stand upon a knife edge and making the wrong move
could plunge the entire World into a darkness so deep that all will
return to the Bronze Age.
Chairman Jon, PDRI.
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Fraze
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Crewe, Cheshire,UK
Sep 2000
time: 05:12
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If someone approached you, asking to buy your car, you’re a weedy guy, the potential buyer is also a weedy guy, but he’s got a heavy friend. You talk about a price, but your not sure, you like your car, you don’t want to sell, but you say maybe I’ll sell if you give me so much money and a bit more.
Then you say I’m not sure, I’ll think about it.
The following night the guy steels your car and leaves a envelope of money in your mailbox.
This is theft no doubt about it.
I will not be bullied.
It’s better to burn up then fade away, and all that kind of self-destructive sentiment.
Unsurprisingly the English have now taken two of my cities. I only declared war to take back what was rightfully mine, and then I made a peace offering. I had no intensions of invading English territory.
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St Jon
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BRIGHTON, UK
Aug 2000
time: 05:12
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PDRI Official Statement
It is to be assumed from the Viking analogy regarding the purchase of motor vehicles from 'one weedy guy by another weedy guy' that the 'heavy friend' is an allusion to the PDRI. This is unfair for Ireland is not 'heavy' in her dealings with other nations and has sought only to further peace and reconciliation throughout the World.
Please note that Ireland is a friend of the Vikings and always has been. Indeed the Viking/Irish Alliance is close to 100 Turns old and Ireland has only ever sought to help and support you. It is very difficult for me when a War is waged between two Allies and the only honest policy that can be adopted is one of strict neutrality. Should any nation, other than the PDRE, have been involved in this conflict we would have intervened on your behalf.
However, if as suspected Trondheim no longer wishes Irish friendship we need just be told. Ireland is a loyal and generous friend to 'weedy men' everywhere but will not force her friendship upon them! The PDRI had neither foreknowledge or suspicion of your attack upon England, for we would have sought to disuade you, but still have tirelessly strived for peace on your behalf.
It also should be noted that the Maps referred to by Chairman Bird have indeed been studied by the Politburo and he speaks no word of a lie. These documents are clear forgeries and never were the basis upon which any previous Anglo-Viking Peace Treaty was signed.
Please Frazer do not force Ireland to take sides, accept the English Peace Treaty and retain your capitol! Severed in two and racked by civil disorder you risk your entire nation by this stubborness.
Chairman Jon, PDRI.
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"And I declared that the dead who had already died, are happier than the living, who are still alive. But better than both is he who has not yet been, who has not seen the evil that is done under the sun."
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King Thor
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no.. Not Prince! KING!
Sep 2000
time: 05:12
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Greetings Leaders of the World.
It is with great grief that I announce to you all that Russian Naval ships were attacked last night, by the English Terrorist State. The casualties were in their thousands with all hands lost and several Naval Ships lost including the mighty Battleship Brezhnev , and its support fleet consisting of 2 Destroyers. Also a brand new Kilo class submarine was attacked by an English interceptor on its maiden voyage. All ships were clearly in SFU waters, just 2 tiles away from the nearest Russian City, when they were attacked. The nearest English city was five tiles away. This is clearly an act of War and we have determined that a fitting response be given to the English. The Russian Airforce dispatched the 1st Fighter Wing of the Southern Air Division to find the Warships responsible for the attack and carry out a tactical strike.The operation was a complete success and all English ships were sunk. This is not an SFU operation and we have asked the French not to lend any form of assistance at the request of the Irish Government.
We announce our complete support to the Viking Nation who are fighting English oppression. The viking Leader may rest safe in the knowledge that we will support them.
From the English we demand compensation of 4000 gold for the sinking of our ships and a public apology. We also demand the handing over of the Interceptors involved in the sinking of our ships for demolition by our air force. If the English continue on this path and carry out any more military operations against us we too will expand the scope of our military operations to include bombardment of coastal cities. Also if our demands are not met, we will punish the English further. Note, if England chooses to carry out a nuclear attack against us, we will respond in kind and will take it upon ourselves to rid the world of the English menace once and for all.
As far as our policy towards the Irish go. They have agreed to be neutral in this conflict between us and the English noting that we are both Allied with them. As far as their attack against France goes, I am very displeased by it. The use of Nuclear weapons was completely uncalled for. And all military units destroyed were well withing SFU territory and SFU air space was violated when the attack was carried out. I will support France in whatever her response to this attack is. The use of nuclear weapons is a crime against humanity, and the SFU is a victim of this crime. As of now, the Irish and I have agreed to a cease-fire until Klair's return. All French units have been ordered to stand down and not engage the Irish in anyway. We expect the World community to join us and condemn this attack and use of weapons of mass destruction.
As far as Russian peace keeping troops go. We have been accused by certain leaders of faking their existence. The troops were being deployed and would have been within Mayan land in a few turns. However, taking into light the outbreak of hostilities between the Irish-English against the nations of the SFU we have to respectfully decline now. We apologize to both parties but these troops may be needed on SFU ground now. Russia though maintains its peace with Ireland, is now at war with England. This state of war will remain until our demands our met. France is at peace with England but is at war with Ireland right now, even though a temporary cease fire has been agreed upon. Neither campaign is a combined SFU operation and should the situation change all world leaders will be informed accordingly.
We end this statement by reminding the world that Russia has been by far the most active nation in trying to maintain the peace. We have repeatedly tried to keep disagreements from turning into war. We were the last nation to increase our war readiness. Russia has NEVER attacked a foreign citizen/soldier under our administration. Our record is flawless. Even when England invaded our land, we did not retaliate in force but instead gave them fair warning and attempted to solve the problem with diplomacy. Certain other nations have seen it fit to invade negihboring countries in order to maintain their security. We wish to point out how restrained our policy has been.... up to now. England has attacked our nation and killed Russian soldiers without any warning (and without any excuse) while they were patrolling SFU waters. We have responded in kind. Make no mistake, English arrogance will be punished, and BirdMan will be brought to justice for commiting an act of terrorism against Russia.
So I have spoken, and So it shall be done.
General Thor, Protector of Russia, and Co-Head of the SFU.
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St Jon
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BRIGHTON, UK
Aug 2000
time: 05:12
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quote:
Originally posted by King Thor on 02-05-2001 05:04 PM
Greetings Leaders of the World.
As far as our policy towards the Irish go. They have agreed to be neutral in this conflict between us and the English noting that we are both Allied with them. As far as their attack against France goes, I am very displeased by it. The use of Nuclear weapons was completely uncalled for. And all military units destroyed were well withing SFU territory and SFU air space was violated when the attack was carried out. I will support France in whatever her response to this attack is. The use of nuclear weapons is a crime against humanity, and the SFU is a victim of this crime. As of now, the Irish and I have agreed to a cease-fire until Klair's return. All French units have been ordered to stand down and not engage the Irish in anyway. We expect the World community to join us and condemn this attack and use of weapons of mass destruction.
As far as Russian peace keeping troops go. We have been accused by certain leaders of faking their existence. The troops were being deployed and would have been within Mayan land in a few turns. However, taking into light the outbreak of hostilities between the Irish-English against the nations of the SFU we have to respectfully decline now. We apologize to both parties but these troops may be needed on SFU ground now. Russia though maintains its peace with Ireland, is now at war with England. This state of war will remain until our demands our met. France is at peace with England but is at war with Ireland right now, even though a temporary cease fire has been agreed upon. Neither campaign is a combined SFU operation and should the situation change all world leaders will be informed accordingly.
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What preposterous nonsense is this? How can a Troopship under escort only one Tile away from Liverpool be described as 'in SFU waters'?
The fact is that the PDRI foiled an SFU invasion plot against England! No nation sends Battleships and Troopships so close and stations Bombers in nearby Cities for 'Defense'. Ireland was entirely justified in her use of nuclear weopons, much lamented though they were, to protect her Ally.
As for the so-called Russian Peacekeeping force! A Carrier Group we hear, if the Russians possess a single Aircraft Carrier I will become a Capitalist! Those troops never existed and those that did were destined for other duties.
Face facts SFU, you have been uncovered as the 'Butchers of the Proleteriat'! Only Irish honour and respect for Treaty obligations have saved Russia from a rapid dimunition in her population.
Chairman Jon, PDRI.
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15-01-2001 02:04
. I can only do better next time.
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