03-10-2002 20:48									#1
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apparently there has been 6 or so killings in montgomery county in the last 12 hours, all of apparent innocents who were doing things like vaccuming their car in a parking lot

anybody have more info?

Jon Miller

	03-10-2002 20:53									#2
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WaPo:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dy...3-2002Oct3.html

	03-10-2002 21:15									#3
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6 random shootings by the same culprits. Could be low rent terrorism.

	03-10-2002 21:20									#4
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I predict its terrorism. Sounds like two or more individuals. Professional shooter. Only one report of a miss. Kids on a rampage would be messier.

One nut driving would probably not be able to be so accurate.

I'll guess this is an operation of a Bin Laden cell probably consisting of American citizens.

Very likely that they had a plan to stash the van out of sight and then flea the area. Best source of evidence might be security tapes from the area. Could be difficult to pin it down.

	03-10-2002 21:23									#5
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I don't think it is terrorists (at least not the Bin Ladin type)

but it is a little scary

Jon Miller

	03-10-2002 21:47									#6
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Scary? No ****.

This is all within a two mile radius of where we lived until two years ago. I used to go to that grocery store, post office, and gas station on a regular basis.

	03-10-2002 21:51									#7
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i thought you meant my Montgomery County, PA

Very sad though

	03-10-2002 21:54									#8
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Imagine if you lived in that one mile radius. Would you be hiding underneath the bed?

	03-10-2002 21:56									#9
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I would get my shotgun and go hunt Arabs in vans.

	03-10-2002 22:02									#10
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There's no indication this has anything to do with Arabs. I'm sure you would have been the first to join a a lynch mob back in the 1920s, too.

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if it was suiciders of the 9/11 type they would not have picked off one person and drove on

they would have went into a bank or McDonalds or something and shot up everyone

Jon Miller

	03-10-2002 22:18									#12
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Now we have an Asian shooter firing at the UN. So, expand to Arabs and Asians in vans or carrying handguns.

	03-10-2002 22:26									#13
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nah, expect a deranged whitey.
and expect jimmy's mouth to have even less connection to his nervous system than usual.

	03-10-2002 22:35									#14
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Asian man shooting up in the air at the UN.

	03-10-2002 22:38									#15
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Radio report says Montgomery County victims are two blacks, a Hispanic, and two whites.

	03-10-2002 22:39									#16
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I know its a terrorist plot now. Martha Stewart just resigned.

	03-10-2002 22:40									#17
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THe guy at the UN has been arrested.

	04-10-2002 00:16									#18
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quote: Originally posted by Pavlov THe guy at the UN has been arrested.

How the hell did a UN guy get a gun to kill a bunch of innocents in a white van in DC? Makes you wonder what Butros Butros Ghali was up too.


oh, wait. I may have some facts messed up.


(too close for comfort Adam, glad you guys are fine)

	04-10-2002 00:18									#19
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Ouch- I hate to hear that this kind of thing happened in my home county. Adam Smith, I hope you'll keep us posted on any new things you may hear.

	04-10-2002 00:27									#20
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I live montgomery county too. One of my friends drove past the shell station where the guy got shot only minutes after. It apparently is a white isuzu van with black writing on it. But I think they'll get a different car soon.

	04-10-2002 00:40									#21
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The facts scream to me that there is more than one perp. One shot at distance, one kill in each instance except the possible window shooting. Perps probably have training.

One kill last night. This was probably a trial run for today. The fact that this happened over two days seems like an operation rather than a deranged killing spree.

Another possibility is that one of the person was a target and the others red herrings, but that seems remote.

Now the van is missing. Likely moved inside a garage. We may find that some family dead in their homes as their house was taken for a base of operations. The van would be in that garage.

Most likely terrorists and they have probably left in another vehicle.

	04-10-2002 00:54									#22
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Another possibility if this is a terrorist operation is that it is designed to tied up resources so that another more destructive objective could be accomplished.

	04-10-2002 00:56									#23
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the fact that there are probably two makes me wonder... two crazy people? it seems more organized.

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quote: Originally posted by jimmytrick Another possibility if this is a terrorist operation is that it is designed to tied up resources so that another more destructive objective could be accomplished.

wouldn't they do this in DC instead of Montgomery County then? There's really not anything big to attack. But perhaps they're not doing it in DC because its hard to flee the scene. (narrow roads and lots of stoplights)

	04-10-2002 01:09									#25
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I don't what is in Montgomery County and nearby areas. Are there any nuclear facilities, pipe lines or large storage fields? Suitable targets for bio/chem agents? Even down here in NC there is a large tank farm near an interstate that would be a juicy target.

And for the purpose of terror a series of drive by shootings would be debilitating in and of itself. I think terrorists would be even more effective in that sort of undertaking.

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Actually, come to think of it, the biggest naval research laboratory in the country is right near my house.

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I'll take any bets that it's not any terrorist of the al qaeda/Bin Laddin type... Just some nutjobs, like the guy that went into Mcdonald's in the 80's, all the post office shootings, and Columbine.

	04-10-2002 01:14									#28
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If you are at home, get under the bed. If not, don't go home. I am not trying to be funny.

	04-10-2002 01:23									#29
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actually I'm leaving my house in five minutes for an appointment, but I don't believe anything is gonna happen. I still think its two independent wackos.

	04-10-2002 01:34									#30
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Apparently, only one shot fired each time, so police are looking for a marksman, and probable driver. I highly doubt the two things (this and UN) are connected, because the guy at the UN shot for attention, then threw his leaflets into the air, more of a peaceful protest.

Maybe it is terrorism, but I doubt its on the scale of international terrorism. I mean, why shoot down an old lady from a retirement home? (then again, why shoot any of these people?)

I really hope these aren't some disturbed kids who thought they could make GTA3 into a roleplaying game.