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To Russia (secret): I will be ready for an attack soon against Britain. Once my Navy is prepared I will, and I have to wait for my resevists to fully mobilise. Perhaps we should wait 4 or 5 years unless the British provoke us anymore. I am apalled at the actions of the British King over his people and the fact that its parliament has been disbanded. Perhaps we could use Parlimentry forces in the mean time to soften the Brits up. I plan to intorduce a congress that will allow me to keep most of my power, I suggest you do the same, it seems all the rage at the moment and it makes your people like you for some reason.

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Gatling Guns wern't invented until thwe Civil War so thanks, I wont use em.

Ironclads came about just before the First Opium War in the 1830's. Say in another 13 or so days (real time) you'll be in a postion to make them if you indicate you are developng them

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Gatling Guns wern't invented until thwe Civil War so thanks, I wont use em.

Ironclads came about just before the First Opium War in the 1830's. Say in another 13 or so days (real time) you'll be in a postion to make them if you indicate you are developng them


Then. let's say I'm using French money to enlarge my Frigate Fleet to Medium, and to finance a research on the idea to use steam power on Iron armored ships, and that the project will take about 20 years to complete (that should be real enough)

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To USA (secret) : We are intrested in a joint project in bringing these so called Ironclads to fruitation. Perhaps a joint-research team based in France (The Americas seem highly unstable at the moment) may allow us to bring these ships of high strength around in about 11 to 13 years time. I hope this leads to greater military ties between our nations we need to destroy the British-Mexican threat.

To Mexico: Sorry to do this to you buddy, but you have invaded our friend, Lousiania and have continued your propaganda against the Spannish territories in the NEw World. We formally declare war against the Mexican Nation.

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TO France:
Dear Napolen Sheep
The US Governments thank you for your kind offer, and we will gladly join our research with your.
Our best researcher and Scientist are being sent to France.

We also would like to thank you for your help against Mexico. At the news of France declaring war against Mexico the people here cheered, and the French Flag was raised up above every house in the United States
The French-Quebecois community has built a huge French Flag, with a gigantic Picture of Napoleon Sheep holding in his hands the Mexican Eagle in the middle.

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To Lousiana:
We will sign a peace treaty with you and hope you have learned your lession.

To Mexico:
We will join our allies, and declare war on Mexico.

To USA:
Russian troops will soon be ariving in United States and we help in the offensive against Mexico. I think we should put all our forces under one commander, mabye from your country or France.

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To Allies:
Spain would also like to join in the research for steam power. I even think an even more large goal would be to use it in industry and transport. (ooc: well if we start to research for steam power on boats, seem to me quite logical to also start it everywhere)


Spain has declared war upon Mexico and Spain troops have crossed the border(though its a quite small forces 40.000 men, 100 cannons and sea support)

To Portugal:
I do not see why I should give you Brazil. You accept Spain influence upon Portugal and your country won't face war and will be treated as a state with full autonomy. (ooc: I propose you: I take Portugal but you still play it and you are a vassal of Spain)

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To Spain: I agree if the USA does

TO the USA: I think we let the Spanish and the Russians in on our joint-venture, perhaps we can rule the seas and the trade with things called 'railstreets' or something. If everyone is working together I estimate completion in about 8 or so years

To Allies (secret): I am willing to send my second top general to you to become overall commander of the allied armies in America, his name is Michel von Moltke, a Prussian who is very adept at his game. What do you say?

To Russia: intrested?

occ: If you are still online when you read this mmtt I am in the chat rooms.

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The Mexican government has collapsed completely! VArious factions of the military are vying for power, and cannot unite against the invaders. The northern areas, which are mainly populated by Native Americans not very related to Mesoamerican Natives, have declared independence as the Western Confederacy of Indians (WCI). The WCI will allow foreign nations to move their troops through to get to Mexico, but will not send troops to help attack Mexico.

Due to the chaos, teh invading armies have had incredible success! the amll Spanish force is only 34 miles away from Mexico city, and Louisianan and Russia forces have already gotten as far south as Chihuahua.

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To the Allies: I propose we sign a cease fire with the Mexican Government whatever that may be. We should recognise the new Indian nation in Northern Mexico, and call on arms reduction for the Mexican Nation. Perhaps also a occupying force to restore the Republic. I think a reperations bill, this new nation, arms reduction and a promise to no longer help the rebels in Spaininsh territory will be the best thing.

TO ALL: I hereby formally recognise the new Indian nation and hope that we can grow strong bonds.

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To Mexico:
If you accept terms of France we will grant a cease fire.

To France, Spain, and United States:
We would like to join your resreach pact.

News From Russia:
The czar has formed a congress that is directly elected by all landowners. It will be call the Congress of the People have 1500 seats. It will be able to pass laws, and spending bills and tax, but no more. All other powers will still be in the hands of the czar.

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15 of the 22 major factions controlling Mexico agree to the treaty, but the 7 that disagree include 3 of the 4 most powerful. In any case, there is not Mexican government right now to officially agree to the treaty.

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To Mexico:
Russian troops will take over any areas that do not agree and make them agree. We would like to see Mexico united again and friends with the Spain-USA-Russia-France alliance.

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To Mexican Generals: I dido that

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LAST EDIT (i hope):
Spain will sign treaty but:
-Mexico won't have troops at Spain border.
-Every other conditions for peace terms must be accepted.
Spain troops stop at Mexico gates and encircle it.

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Portugal flatly refuses the Spanish 'proposal' as it is insulting to the people of this country. Our army is ready at any time, Madrid!

[ooc] Portugal had far more of an influence on Brazil than England AND Spain [ooc]

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European Alliance has declared war upon Portugal.

600.000 men composed of French, Russian and Spanish have started the invasion. (300.000 Spaniards, 250.000 Russian and 50.000 French)

Their huge number will soon crush Portugal army.

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News from Russia:
The Russian army is gaining more people as war between Britain and Russia appears to be close at hand. 200,000 men have enlisted into the army to teach the British a lession.

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Mexico Peace Treaty
The USA also request complete ownership of the Mexican States of California, New Mexico, Nevada, (Oregon Washington, Idaho and Montana already were American states before the start of the conflict, so they should just be returned to us)

The Native American tribes of those areas will be granted full rights if they accept to became American citizens.

The USA fully support the constitution of a Mexican Governmenr friendlier to the France-Russia-Spain-USA Alliance (that's an heck of an alliance )

However we believe it is on our right to be granted those lands in repayment, as they unprovokly attacked us, and we had taken the most fights and damages from them.

Saluti

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We also think that a little repayment should be granted to Louisiana, as they fought well against the Mexicans, and were backstabbed by them.

Saluti

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USA must understand we can't take a country by force. You will just anger them.
You should also know that most of the States you ask for are WCI ones.

As Spain we also wanted to take a large part of Mexico.
Russia and France have humbly requested a change in Spain position.

I will request the same from you.
I understand USA but the European Alliance asks you to align yourself with France, Russian and Spain on Mexico peace treaty terms.

To compensate this, we will try to help your country in new industry.

With Russia, I also ask for collaboration in Steam Power project.
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OOC for a part:
I surely understand your disapointment. Mexico peace treaty is a difficult subject.
(We didn't want to occupy Mexico to let Civman2000 play.)
But things may change. Give peace a chance.

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OOC:
Well, the truth is that I wanted to try to form in this NES the real size USA.
Anyway, I can wait a little bit, but at least I want the territories that they took from the war back (Washington (south, as north is Russian), Oregon, Montana and Idaho).
Than If, in the far future, I would ever managed to incorporate Louisiana back in the US (diploannexing, or militarly) I would have released Canada as a free Nation for Jonny to play

IC:
USA Don't understant why a state who won the war should lose territories, We didn't think that asking California, New Mexico and Nevada would have been too much, but it looks like it is.
But USA wants at least back the provinces of Southern Washington, Oregon, Montana and Idaho plus a big indemnit.
We lost many lives in this war, and we want to be payed for that.

We, of course welcome the help of Russia and Spain in the steam powered boat project.

Saluti

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To Portugal: We are at war now, have a nice day

To Britain: We have commenced a complete naval blockade of the BRitish Isles with Russian and Spannish help. This will be lifted if you pay reperations to France, and give me back my colonies. As for the convicts do what you like.

To USA, Spain and Lousiana: I will not condone or recognise any territoyr annexed by either of you from MExico. Any territory won during the war by Mexico, will be returned to its righful owner.

To MExico: We recognise the council of 15 as the legitiamte government, not the other 7 rebel generals.

To Alliessecret) Operation use gardner and money to get Qubec will commnce next year

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ooc: if anyone had enough ships for a blockade, it wasnt the french/spanish/russians/whoever else it would be the british!!!

oh, also, it will take some time to assemble this grand european army that is going to invade me ((even today (with instant communication), putting together half that many soldiers is a daunting task) while on the other hand my troops are all assembled on the border, waiting for a command.

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OOC: The 15 groups that supprot the treaty are not united, the treaty is more or less the only thing they agree about. Also, I just want to point out that the US never really controlled the western territories, they were officially given to them by britain but they never truly had control of them.

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The people of England have revolted against the King!!

They feel that war with France and Russia will not be prudent, and are requesting to join the United States as they are the only major Nation who has not started a war.

The British Army is now Part of the United States, and the British Navy with it's technology has moved to New York Harbor to help aid the production of Ironclads.

The captured ships still have not been notified of the Revolution, and are maintaining the orders from the king, nobody currently knows their location.

The English People ask only to be viewed as a sovereign state with an equal say in the American Congress.

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To Britain: help your allies!!! Please, for gods sake!

To Spain: We wanted peace, but now we must fight, and die

To France: We never did anything to you, but now your young conscripts will die

To USA: We have been attacked unprovoked. Please help us in our struggle against Spain.

To Louisiana: Until now, our countries have been neutral to each other, but now i ask for a non agression pact.
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The hall was filled with the most powerful men of Portugal. One group was an assortment of royalty and nobility, along with their most trusted advisors and aides. Another, smaller group, was British officials. London had been Lisbon's most loyal and powerful friend for some time. The third group was the military. Generals, field commanders, admirals, British and Portuguese alike. All these people (hundreds in all) were assembled to discuss one thing: What was to be done about the war, and how to go about doing it.

At great length it was decided there was only two strategies to prevent the total destruction of Portugal.

1) Portuguese armies would battle as best they could, then retreat and fight again. After exhausting this unorthodox strategy, they would adopt another. The people and soldiers of the country would fight a guerilla war against the massive enemy army. Although this would mean certain destruction of countless homes and fields and lives, it would do great damage to the armies of Spain and France.

2) The second great proposal was made by a young British commander, through an interpreter. This general proposed an invasion of Spain. At hearing this, a great chatter ensued. It took several minutes for the prime minister to quiet everyone down, and allow the officer to explain his plan. Which he did in these simple, decisive words:

"Once our enemies assemble their army on out border there isnt much we can do except fire our cannons and wait to overwhelmed. Thats why we need to strike first. Its our only chance. It will take the war to Spain's soil. It will surprise them. It will cause panic in Madrid, and might even take that country out of the war. Kings get scared with an army on their doorstep and if we put one there he will almost certainly sign a peace treaty.

This isnt simple, or guaranteed to work, but it is better than any other plan put forth today. By noon tomorow, I can be at the head of the Portuguese Royal Army, and all its courageous soldiers. It will be weeks before our enemies can assemble their forces, and if we can defeat the Spanish border troops, we have a clear road to Madrid, Barcelona and beyond that Marseille!

What do you say?"

The hall was dead quiet for a full ten seconds. Then another outbreak of chattering came about. A few hours later, the Manchester-Born general was galloping off to his forces...

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OOC:
Russia already has 150,000 troops in Spain, Spain has 300,000, france has 50,000 in route and I have 100,000 in route. That is how we have 600,000. Also one day of real time equals one year in story.

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To United States:
Do not accept Britain into your country, we will deal with them in our own way, please stay out of the matter as there is much problems in the Americas and we need you to focus on america not Europe. Britain has attack us time and time again and we will teach them a lession that this cannot be tollerated. They will not escape there fate by trying to join with the United States. We personally believe it is a trick of the British monarch to avoid a war they know they would lose.

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The Portuguese army marches into Spain and does battle. With their excellent leadership and the huge element of surprise the Portuguese, British-led forces defeat the badly-trained Spaniards. The army continues marching to Madrid.

 
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