13-10-2002 02:07									#61
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Piled high with imperial loot, London gets my vote.

	13-10-2002 02:11									#62
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New York, no question. It's certainly the most remarkable city I've been to.

	13-10-2002 02:33									#63
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sorry about some of the ommisions, I made this list in haste.

Atlanta is mainly an inside joke kinda thing

Can someone tell me why Delhi or New Delhi would be a better pick than Calcutta?

	13-10-2002 02:39									#64
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quote: Originally posted by Saint Marcus Can someone tell me why Delhi or New Delhi would be a better pick than Calcutta?

No.

Anyway, depends onthe definition of culture. If you consider pop-"cultulre" as cultlure, then its definately New York. However, if you dont consider pop-"culture" cultlure, then it has to be either Paris or Calcutta.

I voted for Paris.

	13-10-2002 02:48									#65
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I too read that Calcutta is more "cultural" than Delhi, though I may be wrong (that's why I asked).

anyways, if pop culture is culture, there would only be three possible choices. LA, NY or Bombay.

dang, I forgot Bombay...

	13-10-2002 02:51									#66
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Mods, can one of you change one of the Chicagos to Boston? thanks

	13-10-2002 03:28									#67
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San Franciso/Silicon Valley

The most beautiful city in the world and the capital of high tech.

	13-10-2002 03:34									#68
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beauty = culture ???
high tech = culture ???

	13-10-2002 03:40									#69
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LA was still acceptable because of Hollywood and so.. but calling an industrial area a culture capital.. there's something wrong with you

	13-10-2002 04:19									#70
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I forgot NBC (Conan O'brien) is in NY. Grrrrrr:

	13-10-2002 04:51									#71
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quote: Originally posted by Saint Marcus Mods, can one of you change one of the Chicagos to Boston? thanks

There's already too many American cities. At least change it to Berlin instead.

	13-10-2002 05:06									#72
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Or Dresden, Koln, Bonn..

	13-10-2002 05:10									#73
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Sadly, much of Dresden's cultural landmarks and heritage were destroyed in the firebombing.

	13-10-2002 05:34									#74
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Don't forget the floods

But quite all the most important landmarks (apart from the Frauenkirche) had already been restored

	13-10-2002 06:42									#75
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quote: as for Atlanta, I'm sure being hot, sweaty, and eating terrible fried food could be considered cultural

Southern food is ten times better than anything that has come from up north. Even New York style pizza!!

quote: Atlanta is mainly an inside joke kinda thing

I voted for Paris, btw.

	13-10-2002 07:03									#76
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quote: Originally posted by Sava Pffft, Chicago can always "dig up" some more votes than any other city.

So far Chicago has dug up zero votes. With two chances for some drunk to hit a random box that is not doing very well.

	13-10-2002 07:13									#77
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I agree with Monolith. Boston is a very rich and deep city. I spent most my summer there. Hey its just a 40 minute drive! =)

	13-10-2002 07:59									#78
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Hold it. What the hell is culture?

n 1: a particular civilization at a particular stage 2: the tastes in art and manners that are favored by a social group 3: all the knowledge and values shared by a society [syn: acculturation]


So which city has the most of 2 and 3?

I'd go with LA or NY.

	13-10-2002 08:12									#79
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"There's already too many American cities. At least change it to Berlin instead."

NO NO NO! I and others have voiced our support for Boston, and only Boston has actually had a viable historical defence for its cultural importance out of all the cities in this thread!

	13-10-2002 08:16									#80
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Pretty much have to go with London, the true capital of the world.

	13-10-2002 08:19									#81
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In the sense that the world = england, I suppose you would be correct…

	13-10-2002 08:30									#82
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No, I mean more in the sense that more cultures are represented there than anywhere else. You could give NY the nod, but its prominence is greatly amplified by the fact that the US economy dominates the world.

	13-10-2002 08:37									#83
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What makes a city the world's cultural capital however??? Representation of different cultures? I think not. Rather, it is the creation of new culture, in my mind.

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I agree, and certainly don't think that London is the cultural capital simply because of how cosmopolitan it is - sorry, on second glance, I guess my first post implied that. It does help, though, as a great many cultural contributions come from a confluence of many different people. But on top of that, London is still a major center for theatre, music, movies, art, literature, fashion etc., not to mention how many other places attempt to emulate it.

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quote: Originally posted by monolith94 Rather, it is the creation of new culture, in my mind.

That is why I voted for LA. New York has Culture. LA creates and exports culture. Sure McDonalds and movies aren't Opera but its culture and McDonalds and movies have effected far more people than Wagner ever has. Or even Beethoven which is kind of a shame.

	13-10-2002 11:53									#86
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Your threshold for culture is remarkably low. Culture should make people smarter, not dumber.

	13-10-2002 12:18									#87
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Culture has little to do with inteligence. If it did Wagner wouldn't be considered cultured considering what an oaf the man was. Culture does include things that make people smarter or at least more educated but it also includes normal day to day behaviour which is why crummy fast food places like McDonalds count. I haven't been to one of those for years but they are part of modern culture in many nations now and they came from the suburbs of LA.

Its not the food or the look or even Ronald McDonald that caused the success of McDonalds. It was the idea of franchising and making something familiar in distant places that made McDonalds and other fast food shops expand out of places like Downey, California to cover the world. Downey is not the kind of place you would expect a major company to get its start in. Franchising is the real cultural and bussiness phenomana that McDonalds spawned. Good or bad, like it or not its affecting the way people live everywhere. The New York Met isn't nor is the Louvre.

Of course I do look at culture from an anthropological point of view. Your mileage may differ.

	13-10-2002 12:25									#88
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Does culture include everyday normal things, or do those more properly belong to tradition? If a society stones those who work on saturdays, is that part of their culture, or is that part of their tradition?

	13-10-2002 13:22									#89
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Yes. All of the above at least from an anthropological point of view. Tradition is part of culture. Culture is what people learn from each other and pass on to the next generation although I suppose family secrets don't count while guild or clan secrets would.

Of course Saint Marcus might not have intended for the poll to take that point of view. He wasn't specific enough to stop me from taking this one. If we were to take the Hoity-Toity Culture with an Illuminated Capital C then it gets harder. Does Athens count more than Rome because Athen was a major influence in Rome? How much do the Pyramids count? Is Paris really all that or is it just self-centered? Do the Elgin Marbles count for Athens or London. How about Peking? Is it in bad taste or is it splendid?

	13-10-2002 13:47									#90
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Gothenburg. Many nice death metal bands