06-11-2002 20:24									#61
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I think the boar was really Gaul emblem.
Even though it is late, I want to say that Capitolium Hill was a good wonder, if you had geese. I mean, the geese warned the Romans against celtic aggression, so that Geese of the Capitol could be a pretty obsolete Great Wall wonder. Of course, geese as a WoW don't sound that wonderful...

	11-11-2002 01:05									#62
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Here's the title page:

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	11-11-2002 10:36									#63
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diCesare, i was thinking about rupe Tarpeia when i suggested capitolium hill, and not to geese... but the effect i had in mind is almost he same.

	12-11-2002 00:46									#64
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quote: Even though it is late, I want to say that Capitolium Hill was a good wonder, if you had geese. I mean, the geese warned the Romans against celtic aggression, so that Geese of the Capitol could be a pretty obsolete Great Wall wonder. Of course, geese as a WoW don't sound that wonderful...

IMHO that would make a good wonder, especially a pic w/ geese.

I clamor for this scenario!

	12-11-2002 06:56									#65
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Heeey, I leave for a paltry few weeks and a Roman scenario suddenly pops up to compete with mine. I should stay online all the time and stamp out threads like this before they can grow...

But seriously, looks fantastic Tecumseh Can't wait to play it.

	12-11-2002 12:25									#66
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Techumseh, have you got a unit for Cleopatra yet?

	15-11-2002 04:02									#67
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quote: Originally posted by Prometeus Clčo Civ3 style.

Oh boy Cleopatra ("Honours/ Loves her Father") wasn't black, not even starch skinned, she was north Greek by birth, as all of the Ptolemaic dynasty (more or less).
The funny thing is that in surviving contemporary art she is depicted with a rather big nose
I 'll post a picture of her nose here, if I can find it on the web. Otherwise I 'll try to scan the one I have, though I doubt her nose will fit the scanner

	15-11-2002 04:10									#68
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I guess the nose came with that supposed nubian great great grandmother noone has written about , or heard about till the 1970's (so the grandma must have been black, right? )
African pride ok (Kush, Nubia, Aksum, Mali, Shonghai...) Afro-nubian b***t no way.

	15-11-2002 05:58									#69
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Philosopher Blaise Pascal made the famous remark that "Cleopatra's nose, had it been shorter, the whole face of the world would have been changed."
An article and a book on Cleopatra's nose at:
http://ancienthistory.about.com/lib...y/aa090401a.htm
(A book on her nose!)
Another article on her nose and lineage at:
http://www.straightdope.com/mailbag/mcleopatra.html
A Christian/ quasi-feminist view of her nose at:
http://www.csmonitor.com/2002/0125/p13s02-alar.html
A site full of ancient artifacts depicting her nose:
http://www.artic.edu/webspaces/fnew...cfeatures1.html
A girlish forum where ladies get informed about her nose
http://pub90.ezboard.com/fpinwheels...topicID=5.topic
I found 336 results about her prominent/ long/ hooked/ strong/ aquiline/ stocky nose in Yahoo! alone.
In Civ2 terms, her nose could be depicted either as:
a) A tireme ram, to crush the Roman navy at Actium (sea/ naval superiority/ smell 2/ smell submarines) It would be usefull as a hound err... scout unit too.
b) A grappling hook, to board Roman battleships (marine flag). No wonder everyone was attracted to her!
or
c) The ultimate biochemical superweapon (missle, nuclear, destroy after sneezing). Oh no! Mr Bin might get an idea out of this!
She kinda resembles an ex-girlfried. You get the picture

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	15-11-2002 07:59									#70
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quote: Originally posted by fairline Techumseh, have you got a unit for Cleopatra yet?

Yes, thanks. I've been making a few and converting the ones you've made into multi-figure format. Here's a sampler: Armenian infantry, Cleopatra, patricians, Parthian general, Judean cavalry, slaves, Cisalpine (Caesar's) legion, Parthian horsearcher.

Tanelorn: please don't destroy my image of Cleo!

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	16-11-2002 02:08									#72
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	17-11-2002 20:57									#73
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very nice, Techumseh. Your Cleo's got a cute nose, too

	17-11-2002 21:00									#74
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One more thing: is your scenario just ToT or will there be a FW version?

	18-11-2002 10:01									#75
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Test of Time only, I'm afraid. I hope you have it!

	18-11-2002 18:03									#76
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Hurray!!!

	18-11-2002 22:06									#78
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mmmm.....now where did I put my unplayed copy of ToT?

	18-11-2002 22:42									#79
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quote: Originally posted by Henrik

http://download.com.com/3000-2119-1...ml?tag=lst-2-9m

	19-11-2002 01:22									#81
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	19-11-2002 04:22									#82
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quote: Originally posted by Henrik

It's not piracy, if that's what you're implying. ToT is now being marketed as shareware.

	19-11-2002 05:18									#83
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It does seem to have some sort of limited duration license and costs $10 for a fully-functional or unlimited-duration (?) version, I guess.
Quite honestly though you could probably get a better deal on E-bay or somesuch - which would include the paper manual.

	19-11-2002 05:37									#84
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quote: It's not piracy, if that's what you're implying.

I think he is more concerned about the fact that he can´t play it as a Mac user...

	19-11-2002 11:07									#85
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Yes that's it

	19-11-2002 16:01									#86
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... downloaded and installed.

	23-11-2002 12:55									#87
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Here's a few screen shots. I'd like to start a multiplayer test game, probably starting towards the end of next week. If you would like to help, and have or are willing to get Test of Time, please sign on here. All civs are playable. They are: Roman Senate, Spanish Legions, Cisalpine Legions, Syrian Legions, Gauls, Parthians, and Egyptians.

Here Julius Caesar begins the conquest of the Gauls.

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	23-11-2002 13:06									#88
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Here a naval battle takes place between Caesar and Pompey. I'm trying a new event, where every March turn, Navigation is given to all civs and every November it is taken away again. This is to simulate the winter storms that made sailing more dangerous.

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	23-11-2002 13:08									#89
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Here Cleopatra's army mobilizes for war:

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	23-11-2002 13:10									#90
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Finally, Parthian cavalry ambushes invading Legions of Crassus:

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