18-10-2002 00:58									#31
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I didnt really get his point either.

He claims Israel is a Fascist Dictatorship but bases this on Rabin ceremonies.

	18-10-2002 00:59									#32
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No offense Muxec, of course. But your posts were very unclear and inconsistent.

	18-10-2002 01:09									#33
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exactly. btw, Eli, Gush Shalom are not "traitors", but rather a bunch of deluded people, mostly.

He doesn't like the Rabin personality cult, ok, but how is that connected to nationalism, esp. with Rabin's post-mortal p.c. developing on a an anti-nationalist basis, not his epic military achievements, butsome sort of a Soc-Democratic Jesus Crist , without offending any christians , or Social Democrats for that matter?!

	18-10-2002 01:37									#34
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I think he's just pissed that he got yelled at for missing that ceremony or whatever. I agree it's hard to figure out, though.

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	18-10-2002 01:39									#35
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That's because he never makes any sense. He's an Israeli ottok.

	18-10-2002 01:39									#36
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My take on it is that he's a disgruntled immigrant who expects to fit into society with no effort whatsoever from his part and no sacrifices on his end. He's a disilusioned teenager with nothing in his mind but a rate ZZZ drama on how his life sucks and everyone hates him.

	18-10-2002 01:42									#37
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oh , I remember having those. Now, I'm studying at the technion, and life looks bright.

	18-10-2002 01:47									#38
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Sh3kel, please do not insult people you do not actually know.

	18-10-2002 01:55									#39
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Sonic, If he'd follow your advice, why the hell would he post on apolyton , at all?

	18-10-2002 02:03									#40
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Let's chill on the personal insults people...

	18-10-2002 02:17									#41
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agreed, Ming. But I am generally a good boy .

	18-10-2002 10:03									#42
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quote: Originally posted by Azazel exactly. btw, Eli, Gush Shalom are not "traitors", but rather a bunch of deluded people, mostly.

They are coming very close to it. According to the Shabak and myself.

They wanted to publicize photos of Israeli pilots who participated in the intifada and were stopped. This is of course only one case out of many.

	18-10-2002 10:05									#43
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quote: Originally posted by Azazel Now, I'm studying at the technion, and life looks bright.

We might be meeting there next year.

What are you studying?

	18-10-2002 15:25									#44
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Muxec : You still owe us a comprehensive reply.

	18-10-2002 15:36									#45
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chemistry, but I MAY be switching to molecular bio-chemistry or biology.

oh, and good luck getting a dorm.

	18-10-2002 16:05									#46
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quote: He claims Israel is a Fascist Dictatorship but bases this on Rabin ceremonies.

No i claim that in Israel are mixed and merged all goverment types, but sometimes Fascism and Theocracy dominate. Democracy also ofthen dominate.

quote: There is no Halacha law in Israel.

False
Israel laws are TANAHed.

quote: If you hadnt noticed yet, this forum is composed of people from tens of countries and everyone(with the exception of one thread) talk in English

Disagree, and your psyhometry Hebrew thread not the only. When i said Demosratia in Civ3 goverment request thread Solver understood me.
[qoute]Ariel Sharon to Moshe Mizrahi, the director of Muxec's school :
"Hey Moshe, I have to leave for Washington now, but remember, if someone doesnt come to the Rabin ceremony expel him. That's an order".[/quote]
Lo matzhik Have you even heard about Limor Livnat?

quote: My take on it is that he's a disgruntled immigrant who expects to fit into society with no effort whatsoever from his part and no sacrifices on his end. He's a disilusioned teenager with nothing in his mind but a rate ZZZ drama on how his life sucks and everyone hates him.

Agreed. I MUST love this country.
( Not ZZZ drama, ZZZ parody opera "Rabin assassin :lol

DinoDoc, please do not post here anymore.

	18-10-2002 16:07									#47
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Azazel, Eli you were able to do this in private messaging.

	18-10-2002 16:48									#48
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quote: Originally posted by Ming Let's chill on the personal insults people...

The violance is the last stronghold of unskilled people.

	18-10-2002 17:00									#49
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quote: Originally posted by Azazel chemistry, but I MAY be switching to molecular bio-chemistry or biology. oh, and good luck getting a dorm.

Atuda right?

quote: No i claim that in Israel are mixed and merged all goverment types, but sometimes Fascism and Theocracy dominate. Democracy also ofthen dominate.

Whatever.

quote: False

So you claim that the only law in Israel is the Halacha law?

quote: Israel laws are TANAHed.

Many laws are based on biblical laws. Especially those who encourage the Israeli identity as a Jewish state but 90% of them are the usual dont steal, dont kill, etc stuff that exist in every nation.

quote: Disagree, and your psyhometry Hebrew thread not the only. When i said Demosratia in Civ3 goverment request thread Solver understood me.

I'm not going to continue arguing for this point. If you dont understand why on Apolyton we mainly talk in English and not in Hebrew...

quote: Have you even heard about Limor Livnat?

Have YOU heard about Limor Livnat?
Rest assured that she does the minimal amount of efforts to commemorate Rabin.

quote: Agreed. I MUST love this country.

No. But if you want to fit in you must do some effort, and respecting the countries traditions(in this case Rabin's day) is a part of this effort.

You want to alienate yourself from the society? Ok, but then dont start *****ing about the injustice done to you.

	18-10-2002 17:46									#50
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quote: society

How do you define society?

	18-10-2002 21:48									#51
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quote: So you claim that the only law in Israel is the Halacha law?

99% of laws Halacha and tahah.

	18-10-2002 21:53									#52
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quote: Originally posted by muxec 99% of laws Halacha and tahah.

And how many are unique to Judaism and make Israel a theocratic state?

If you call a "dont kill" style of law a Halacha law only because it appeared in the bible then pretty much every country in the world is a Jewish theocracy.

society - A group of humans broadly distinguished from other groups by mutual interests, participation in characteristic relationships, shared institutions, and a common culture.

	19-10-2002 01:40									#53
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Eli: yep, atuda.

quote: 99% of laws Halacha and tahah

yeah. sure...

	19-10-2002 01:48									#54
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Azazel will build communism here.

	19-10-2002 01:53									#55
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quote: If you call a "dont kill" style of law a Halacha law only because it appeared in the bible then pretty much every country in the world is a Jewish theocracy.

Can you use your car at yom kipur? Can you go to shop at saturday? Can you get mariede here with not jew? What would occur if you'll eat white meat on the Dizengof street in midday?

	19-10-2002 02:29									#56
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quote: He's an Israeli ottok.

Cheap, very cheap... I'm saving this to use it every time you make a grammatical or spelling mistake...

Muxec, keep it up

	19-10-2002 02:43									#57
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quote: Originally posted by muxec Can you use your car at yom kipur?

No.

quote: Can you go to shop at saturday?

Yes. Saturday is my favorite shopping day.

quote: Can you get mariede here with not jew?

Yes.

quote: What would occur if you'll eat white meat on the Dizengof street in midday?

Nothing.

	19-10-2002 02:47									#58
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quote: Originally posted by Hueij quote: He's an Israeli ottok. Cheap, very cheap... I'm saving this to use it every time you make a grammatical or spelling mistake...

When I do it in each and every post I make then you might have a point.

	19-10-2002 16:59									#59
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quote: Originally posted by DinoDoc When I do it in each and every post I make then you might have a point.

You do it often enough my friend...

We all know that the cheapest of all shots on Apolyton is to mock someone's credibility on the strength on their grammar/spelling ability.

Hell, we could write off a good proportion of the blinkered conservative types on this forum if that were the case!

Keep up the good work Muxec - I haven't noticed too many of the Israeli posters denying the 'Israeli Facism' part...

	20-10-2002 11:43									#60
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quote: the fact that some children FORCED to go to religious schools are theocracy.

That's half convertee immigrants, such as etheopians and some eastern or african immigrants.

It's the same thing as studying american history and heritage upon immigration IMO. They are already of Jewish fate, but they are unfamiliar with the updates since the Babelian expultion.