20-10-2002 20:28									#1
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Bah. We got moved to the BF.

	20-10-2002 22:54									#2
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which happens to be the best server since it was created


i'm not playing anymore though... maybe i'll return later, when i got myself a computer!

	21-10-2002 00:06									#3
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Best for organized kingdoms, not kingdoms filled with individuals who easily reach 400k but lose a war to kingdoms even 1mil smaller.

	21-10-2002 00:12									#4
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Can someone help me come up with a new build for an Undead attacker taking into account the changes this age?

	21-10-2002 00:30									#5
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Can someone help me to come up with a kingdom race/personality distribution?

	21-10-2002 00:41									#6
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quote: Originally posted by Eli Can someone help me to come up with a kingdom race/personality distribution?

I'd defect to a better kd if yours sucks as badly as you say. Now get back to my question.

	21-10-2002 02:39									#7
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well it looks like my new kd is almost all elves....go figure.... *shamefully admits to playing elf again* i just couldn't get a faery strat to work right....

but my elf strat is killer!

	21-10-2002 02:41									#8
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No way that Eli is defecting, not after talking me into staying.

I don't know if it's good, but this will be my build strat as Undead/Mystic:
25% barracks
20% watchtowers
10% libs
10% guilds
10% towers
10% banks
10% hospitals
5% stables

	21-10-2002 02:47									#9
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maybe i'll drop some watchtowers for more banks, income could become a problem this age

	21-10-2002 03:01									#10
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I've changed to an Undead Mystic. Here's my build:

In protection:

15% towers
15% guilds
15% armories
20% mines
15% homes (already built)
10% hospitals
10% librarys

After protection slowly change to:

20% towers
20% armories
15% guilds
15% banks
10% librarys
10% forts
9% stables
1% prisons

	21-10-2002 17:08									#11
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I was going to propose you this, as Undead General :

Towers - 14%
Guilds - 10%
Barracks - 20%
Libs - 14%
Banks - 10%
Arms - 15%
Stables - 7%
Forts - 10%

But yours may be better, if you prefer not to use barracks.

	21-10-2002 17:31									#12
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Why no barracks?

	21-10-2002 20:49									#13
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How would you change it to include baracks?

	21-10-2002 20:58									#14
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Reduce Guilds and Armouries, you're Mystic so that shouldnt be too hard.

EVERYONE : We have two empty spots in our kingdom. Contact me if you want to join.

	22-10-2002 04:14									#15
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I'm on BF (2:14 - Amsterdam), playing as Faery/Rogue.



DD, here's my proposal:

Protection:
08% Guilds
08% Towers
10% Hospitals
20% Barracks
08% Stables
36% Banks
10% Libs

Final:
20% Homes
08% Guilds
08% Towers
20% Barracks
09% Stables
20% Forts
15% Unis

	24-10-2002 06:15									#16
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Just to prevent this thread from dying just yet, here's an interesting overview of our neighbors:

** Races **
Halfling: 20 (83%)
Human: 1 (4%)
Elf: 1 (4%)
Dwarf: 1 (4%)
Avian: 1 (4%)

	24-10-2002 10:44									#17
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Hehe.

How will you leave protection?

I'm going to have 25 raw DPA and 30MOD and ~1-1.5raw TPA.

	24-10-2002 15:04									#18
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I'm not exactly sure: I'm going to have 1,350 def specs and 250 thieves OOP @ 250 acres. I've started drafting again and everything that's a soldier will contribute to my defense as well then.

What race are you, Eli? Faery as well?

	24-10-2002 18:25									#19
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Halfling Rogue.

Only 1350? I'm having 1900 def specs, and 400 thieves on 290 acres.

Dont you just hate the -20% money disadvantage now?

	24-10-2002 19:56									#20
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What KD are you people in?

	24-10-2002 20:08									#21
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I'm in 18:43 together with Lemmy.

Zopper and War4Ever left us.

	24-10-2002 21:10									#22
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OOP i'll have 1242 def spec and 465 off specs on 215/220 acres, should be enough to conquest a small provinces, or maybe plunder some inactives...does plundering train elites?

	24-10-2002 21:19									#23
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Eli: Why did they leave you?

Lemmy: It didn't last round.

	24-10-2002 23:12									#24
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quote: Originally posted by Eli Dont you just hate the -20% money disadvantage now?

You have the construction cost advantage as well, but it's all good, I'll probably have more defense and more acreage as well OOP, since I'm sending out another exploration platoon tonight.

	24-10-2002 23:14									#25
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quote: Originally posted by Lemmy does plundering train elites?

No, only T-March and Conquest give you elites, but don't expect too many elites right OOP...

	24-10-2002 23:16									#26
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quote: Originally posted by Eli I'm in 18:43

Awesome. We are on the same Island together. I'm in 22:43. I might be comeing to visit a few of your provinces once I'm out of protection. Can you recommend anyone?

	24-10-2002 23:16									#27
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quote: Originally posted by DinoDoc Why did they leave you?

I wasn't motivated to stay, some people were annoying me and I had enough of the constant instability in Kd occupation.
After a year in that Kd, it was time for a new start.

BTW: are you on BF as well, Dino?

	24-10-2002 23:21									#28
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Yes. My kd kicked the arse of everyone else on our island, so they shifted us to the BF server.

	24-10-2002 23:45									#29
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DD : What's your province name?

	25-10-2002 00:01									#30
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UKA Dread Lords.