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Yeah, yeah, yeah, I hear the "He's a Senator...whaaaa!" stuff...but who cares?


Well how well are you roleplaying if your Flying Jets above our little fishing-rafts?

thats the point of the team

stick to the times.

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From Hastragal Gisgar

To Supreme Leader Togas


Your Supremity,

I imagine that you have neither the time nor the desire to hear the endless speech in his defence that the suspect ARNELOS (Hamilcar) intended audaciously to deliver to your Supremity. I have therefore taken the liberty to analyse its content, and this is my report.

1.Excerpt of ARNELOS (Hamilcar) testimony

*I apologize that I have belaboured*
Although Harrapsgar the Shorter, the well acquainted with words of all languages, asked what belaboured could mean, has not been able to tell me whether it means betray or plot, it is an acknowledgment.

*my ambition - something I willingly admit that I possess.*
*the true malignance in many of their hearts** some even may specifically believe that they will be the cause of your failure*
This confirms beyond any doubts all my suspicions on all the others.

*the true mark of one's penchant for loyalty (is) in the inter-twining of one's own self-interest with your own interests. The key is to ensure that (my) self-interests are closely tied to your own interest.*
This is a totally new definition of loyalty: a business deal, nearly fifty/fifty.

*This gives your greatness the confidence to know that I am indeed bound to your side out of a powerful motivator - my own self-interest.*
Rinse and repeat.

*Should I ever, abandon you or commit treason against you, I have reason to know that my honor and the honor of my family will be adversely affected.*
Adversely affected in this meaning is a cataclysmic understatement which borders unconsciousness.

*The decision is clear, I must either side with you and thus be bound to remain with you even should you fall, or I must not be with you and retain my freedom of action.*
Freedom of action !!! The most daring blackmail I ever heard!

2 Conclusion
Considering the above, the previous suspicions, the attempt of blackmail, I immediately shift ARNELOS (Hamilcar) from the category Extremely suspect to Extremely suspect and dangerous.

I have recruited enough Numidian mercenaries to handle smoothly any disappearance you would order.



Hasdrubal Gisgar

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Pfft. As I said before, does not dignify direct response.

Your excellency,

We've all known each other too long to have our respect for one another affected by such drivel. You need no further counsel on this matter than you have already had volunteered to you by many of your long friends and aquantances.

On a lighter note, if this man's rhetoric was not so laughable it would be advisable to permanently silence him. But, since his rhetoric has only served to garner him near univeral hatred from the esteemed members of the tribe, he may yet prove to be a useful example of the consequences of disturbing the public order even if you take no action against him .

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Well how well are you roleplaying if your Flying Jets above our little fishing-rafts?

thats the point of the team

stick to the times.


Yes. 7 Darknesses ago, ran over brother with..."Senator" call it Modern Armor. When Spamish (see character thread) bring up, "Senator" pull out what he call Rock-it Launcher. Guess by Spamish that it throw Rocks far.



Yes, I am now editing my Character thread post to stick to hte times, good point

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Hastragal Gisgar does, indeed, amuse me.

I do not see my position in jeopardy, good friends and leaders of the tribe. And why should it be? We all live happily and at peace with each other. We are about to embark on this new journey we call Civilization, and it would do the tribe little good to divide ourselves in a time such as this.

I do not take the suspicious talk to heart.

At this time I feel it is wise to announce that I have chosen someone to act as my second in command, to manage my affairs in my absence and to administer over our tribe when other duties have called me away. That person is none other than Lorenzo Clemente of the Arnelos clan.

I have heard word that Francisco Pizarro of the Tacticus warrior clan seeks to serve as our High Priest. This was a pleasant surprise indeed, as I have not known his family to be the spiritual sort, but I suppose even I can be wrong at times ... although such times are very very infrequent.

If this is true Francisco Pizzaro de Tacticus, then perhaps you should display your true calling to the people of the tribe and help lead us with the wisdom and teaching of the great spirts. Help direct our tribe's growth and study, and help ensure that our people all commune as one.

--Togas

p.s. Perhaps it is time that we start focusing more on Spanish culture and characters, si?

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I have heard word that Francisco Pizarro of the Tacticus warrior clan seeks to serve as our High Priest. This was a pleasant surprise indeed, as I have not known his family to be the spiritual sort, but I suppose even I can be wrong at times ... although such times are very very infrequent.

If this is true Francisco Pizzaro de Tacticus, then perhaps you should display your true calling to the people of the tribe and help lead us with the wisdom and teaching of the great spirts. Help direct our tribe's growth and study, and help ensure that our people all commune as one.


Yes, Great Leader, I do indeed wish to serve in the position of High Priest. Though my family has traditionally been one of great warriors, the gods came to me in my sleep a few nights ago and ordered me to seek this position. Who am I to defy the will of the gods?

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Whadda ya meana, Ninot? I ama just a simple squid salesman!!

Hernan de History Guy Calamari

P.S., the reason for a Carthaginian Senator was due, I'm afraid, to reading the history of the actual place, which was always run partially by a senatorial system (despite the dictators, etc.), somewhat like Rome, and therefore it was not at all far fetched or out of place. In fact, since we were all tribal leaders, we would have all been Senators for that tribe. I was not aware that it would bother anyone...

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even I can be wrong at times ... although such times are very very infrequent.


Unbelievable! Togas, oh, great Despot, can not be, this, "wrong."
quote:

Perhaps it is time that we start focusing more on Spanish culture and characters, si?


Si.

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P.S., the reason for a Carthaginian Senator was due, I'm afraid, to reading the history of the actual place, which was always run partially by a senatorial system (despite the dictators, etc.), somewhat like Rome, and therefore it was not at all far fetched or out of place. In fact, since we were all tribal leaders, we would have all been Senators for that tribe. I was not aware that it would bother anyone...


Well its fine that Carthage had a senatorial system, but as of yet, we dont. We arent even a full blow civilization yet, just nomads, lol. Maybe the RP of Senators could apply, but I would argue that it Shouldnt.

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We arent even a full blow civilization yet, just nomads, lol.


For nomads, we have quite a developed language skill and sense of strategy (most of us ).

Anyway, is it true that the great Togas has changed our fate into being Spanish, and that this change of heart is definite? Whatever the answer, it shows that the wise Togas has made another thoughtful decisions which only He could have made. Glory to Togas and our as yet to be defined god or gods!

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Glory to Togas and our as yet to be defined god or gods!


We don't yet have Monotheism or Polytheism... hell, we don't even have Mysticism.

However, we DO have Ceremonial Burrial, so at least we have respect for the dead. For now, an afterlife myth could be what passes for our "religion" until we get at least Mysticism (when our religion can be all about "the spirits").

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I think that (most) humans have always believed there is some sort of supreme being, even (or maybe especially) before civilization arose. Maybe technologies such as monotheism show that we then have made an organized religion with buildings of worship, priests etc.

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* Hastragal Gisgar thinks : F-PRO is using code sentences to transmit evil secrets to the extremely suspect and dangerous Arnelos : teq nolo j; that certainly means we should plant desarming thoughts. So there would be connexions between Lux Invicta and Arnelos. This is still worse than I expected.*

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At this time I feel it is wise to announce that I have chosen someone to act as my second in command, to manage my affairs in my absence and to administer over our tribe when other duties have called me away. That person is none other than Lorenzo Clemente of the Arnelos clan.



*Hastragal Gisgar thinks : As my master Fou-Ché used to say Choose your second in command amonst those you have the worst suspicion on, so you keep them under close attention. The Supreme Leader did not forget it...
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The Gisgar Family has the sad duty to inform the tribe that

------------------------------HASTRAGAL-----------------------

has been found dead this morning after an early meal of squibs.
The countless friends he had, thanks to his kindness and sincere friendship, will regret this great citizen totally devoted to the good of the tribe.
An inquiry has been requested by the family in view of identifying the supplier of the squibs presumably rotten.

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The Torquemada Family comes from two old families, the Tor and the Mada which united their fate many centuries ago to put an end to a long-lasting disagreement on a piece of land. Another branch of the Mada Family did not participate in the deal, and if there are still some far far cousins of mine around, I doubt they feel good about the Torquemada.
Always interested in religion, we specialized soon on all practical aspects of the religious feelings, particularly the different ways to despatch those who do not believe in God, and how to induce them first to acknowledge that they do not.
I, Juan de Torquemada, have been educated by the greatest specialists existing in our time in those techniques, and I feel ready to put them in use for the best of the tribe and of our Supreme Leader.

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I am still without a Slave Master and Leader for the Explorers/Warriors of our Iberian Tribe. I will take care of these tasks on my own if no one steps forward to voluteer to handle them.

I will send one person from the tribe to personally meet with each of the (human) tribes that we come in contact with when we contact them.

Instead of waiting for our first city to be founded and then announcing a governor, I will announce now that I have chosen Ninot to serve as the governor of the city (under my watchful leadership, of course). This should allow him to prepare to immediately give instructions to the people of the town to promote rapid growth and expansion.

GeneralTacticus will serve as our High Priest/Presider of Burial Rites until Mysticism is developed. At that time I will consider if another member of the tribe is more enlightened and more in favor with the spirits.

--Togas

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An inquiry has been requested by the family in view of identifying the supplier of the squibs presumably rotten.


Let this be a reminder to anyone eating other foods that cactus is not only a staple but one that is guaranteed not to kill you... (disclaimer: must remove needles before eating or must disregard previous statement).

sincerely,
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--your humble clairvoyant, half-witted cactus-farmer

[edit]: When we discover the secret of Drug Abuse, I will become your peyote-pusher too if there is enough interest.

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The Plagiatum clan would like to offer an explorer and some conquistadores to board a caravelle at on stage in our history.
The Plagiates Expedtion would also be a nice wonder...
Right now, we are mostly eager to get involved in foreign relations.

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Instead of waiting for our first city to be founded and then announcing a governor, I will announce now that I have chosen Ninot to serve as the governor of the city (under my watchful leadership, of course). This should allow him to prepare to immediately give instructions to the people of the town to promote rapid growth and expansion.
--Togas


I am very honored to be bestowed the honor of Governor of Madrid.

Supreme Lord Togas, I hope to please you

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Hastragal will be, of course, missed by all of us. I am very glad that it was indeed squibs, and not squids that Hastragal died as a result of eating. However, we must all ask why he was eating these firecrackers after all, knowing that squib firecrackers are explosive. Of course, the very fact that he was eating SQUIBS and not SQUIDS raises a very interesting question: Without gunpowder, who produces firecrackers and squibs anyway? Well...the fact is that the Gisgar family has been making a strange mixture called 'saltpeter', which has no practical purpose, except to make squib firecrackers, and the only firecracker company on Earth is...THE HASTRAGAL GISGAR FIRECRACKERS & SQUIBS COMPANY. If murder, this leads us to suspect that a member of the Gisgar household was responsible for the fiery end of Hastragal. Terrible...terrible...

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Gastronome Neecap rolls out the red carpet...

Hello! It is I, Hernan de History Guy Calamari, a simple Iberian squid salesmen...with political connections. After returning from the funeral of Hastragal Gisgar, and the subsequent funeral of all the Gisgars (who died sadly in a mysterious incident while visiting a squid factory...), I wish to honor and recognize our friends the Torquemadas, a new and upcoming family here in Madrid. Welcome, Juan! Three cheers, and all that...

Hernan de History Guy Calamari

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I would say that the "factory" concept is too far ahead for ancient ages, except I read somewhere once that the assembly line has been around for that long, just no machines. Since I forgot to kill off Carthalo Mitchell, I'll do it now:

CARTHALO MITCHELL IS DEAD!
He was found stabbed 13 times in the yard surrounding his home. We are all very sorry for the death, which has been ruled accidental by the local judges. (In unrelated news, Spamish Mitchell recently gave the judges a gift of 5 Gold Pieces, nearly all he had, for no apparent reason.) The funeral-oh yeah, we only have Ceremonial Burial now (if that, I forget.) We can't have a funeral. A bloody knife was found near the scene which had "Spamish's Knife" carved on its handle, but the evidence was mysteriously lost in a fire with unknown causes at the investigator's house. (Oh, I know it's not very accurate RP, but hey-Like WarriorPoet (i think) said, "You're not winnign the game if you're not ahveing fun." (C) WarriorPoet 2002. )

In the absence of any male members of the clan left (there were many fights for clan control, ) Spamish stepped up to the leadership position, now controlling the Mitchell clan.

When asked if Spamish would thrust the tribe of Spam thousands of years into the future by simply allowing women into places of power, he said, "Hey, I'm already on thin ice with not roleplaying that obituary right. Lemme do what I want." He continued to bring the questioner "out back for a good old game of 'Deathmatch.'"

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Seeing how everyone is gonna be killing each other off, I say if the game progresses as far as approximately 1349 AD... Senior PlagueRat gets to wipe us all out a full 2/3 of us with his infamous black plague.

We roll the dice and if the current monarch's number comes up, we get a new leader from the remaining 1/3.

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(to himself, reading details of Carthalo Mitchell's demise...)

WHAT?! No mention of the mysterious squid found lying nearby?!

(Oh, and Senator Hamilcar History Guy fell off his roof while nailing down some thatch, and fell into a squid cart, which then transported the squid and the Senator to the squid factories, where he was, unfortunately, packaged. He died of shock. How sad...)

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The funeral-oh yeah, we only have Ceremonial Burial now (if that, I forget.) We can't have a funeral.


Oh, but you can. Bring him down to the shrine and we'll do the rites to let his spirit rest in peace.

High Priest Francisco Pizarro de Tacticus

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Hastragal will be, of course, missed by all of us. I am very glad that it was indeed squibs, and not squids that Hastragal died as a result of eating. However, we must all ask why he was eating these firecrackers after all, knowing that squib firecrackers are explosive. Of course, the very fact that he was eating SQUIBS and not SQUIDS raises a very interesting question: Without gunpowder, who produces firecrackers and squibs anyway? Well...the fact is that the Gisgar family has been making a strange mixture called 'saltpeter', which has no practical purpose, except to make squib firecrackers, and the only firecracker company on Earth is...THE HASTRAGAL GISGAR FIRECRACKERS & SQUIBS COMPANY. If murder, this leads us to suspect that a member of the Gisgar household was responsible for the fiery end of Hastragal. Terrible...terrible...

Signed,
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Oh, yes, we can-we have Ceremonial Burial!

EDIT: Translate as, yes, do the rites for the peaceful burial of Carthalo Mitchell.

:P

Enoughboutthat, let's see here.

-Adding more intrigue to the mystery of all the deaths, Carthalo Mitchell was seen hurriedly climbing down the side of Hamilcar's house and speeding into the distance. However, Spamish was good friends with Hamilcar. Hrmm.....

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(It is odd, because Spamish is also good friends with a certain squid salesman, and a squid was found lying beside the corpse of Carthalo. Indeed, tentacle marks bespangled Carthalo's proboscis, as though he was being smothered and stabbed at the same time, and by two different people!)

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Oh great Togas, allow me to serve you in order to prove my loyalty to you! Even the lowliest position would fit me well! IŽd serve you from what like I can to the best of my ability, only to prove that some rumours of me being a spy are lies.

Your greatness is wise like the old wise ones, and surely knows how to distinguish a spy from a loyal servant to your great ness.

 
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