25-11-2002 05:12									#91
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I dont want to see the squid becoming a national symbol

Ill be damned before that happens. We are spaniards, not fish

[/OOC]

	25-11-2002 06:53									#92
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Squid are Spain's most valuable resource. Squids are not only a source of food and ink, but they can be used quite effectively in battle (I found this out myself on several occasions). They are also good are weapons for execution. Finally, it would be true to say that they make exceptionably loving pets. The non-edible ones, that is.

Hernan de History Guy Calamari

	25-11-2002 07:55									#93
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(Note: We are still only a tribe, not a city yet. Thus we do not have any of those advances, and still need to rp-talk like "Og want meat. Kill meat, Og does. Og eat." )

[rp]
Squid=Good. In battle many moons ago myself, in country old. Spamish squid easily victory. Now, honored I, to make famous squid of Spam self my. Oog oog ag ag! Where meat, woman?
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	25-11-2002 14:47									#94
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quote: Originally posted by Ninot [OOC] I dont want to see the squid becoming a national symbol Ill be damned before that happens. We are spaniards, not fish [/OOC]

The symbol of the democrats is the donkey (right? I'm not American so I'm not sure). But they don't say: "we should not let the donkey be our national symbol. We are denmocrats, not donkeys"

	25-11-2002 18:34									#95
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What is the Spanish name for squids?
(The greek squid dish I like... Calemares.)

This is intelligent food!

	25-11-2002 20:21									#96
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Squids as weapons for execution...hmmm...interesting. Can't wait for the Inquisition.

Hows that song go,

"The inquisition...
look out sin,
The inquisition...
lets begin,"

	26-11-2002 01:31									#97
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OK, enough about squid in this thread.

I have a good idea that I'd like us to explore. We have 20+ members, but it is still a small group.

I would like to see everyone with a job/title/identity of some sort. A role in our society. There should be enough to go around.

Later on, there will be more jobs available ... commanders, explorers, governors, and so forth, so there is no rush. We can also change characters and jobs and such down the line.

For now, give it some thought. Try to create an identy for yourself be it the tavern owner, governor, rancher, merchant, explorer, warrior, prophet, lackey to the Despot or otherwise.

I feel this should add more character to our little society, our posts, and our game.

--Togas

	26-11-2002 02:52									#98
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Spamish is opening a squid shop

Spamish is the leader of the Mitchell clan, and he is using the passed-down family secrets to try to decipher the world's mysteries. (In other words he's a scientist, or in this age, a prophet, a future-man, a I forget. Maybe he'll change again to something else. I dunno.)

Spamish knows 300 things you can do with Squid...
The Squid can be an inside joke down the line, like, in 2000AD when our soldiers march over the ruins of our last enemy's city, we will hold up a banner proclaiming the existence everywhere of the Almighty Squid!!!

	26-11-2002 03:01									#99
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quote: Originally posted by mrmitchell (Note: We are still only a tribe, not a city yet. Thus we do not have any of those advances, and still need to rp-talk like "Og want meat. Kill meat, Og does. Og eat." )

[OOC]

Actually, you're wrong on that one We START the game with Alphabet and Ceremonial Burrial, even though we don't yet have a city. That means that if explored with our settler unit at gamestart rather than founding our first city and contacted another civ, we WOULD be able to trade our Ceremonial Burial and Alphabet techs...

So, no we don't have a city just yet... but we do have ceremonial burial and an alphabet

So, in other words, though Og may be a nasty brute who still has horrible table manners, he at least knows how to request his meat from the cook using a modicum of gramatical skill

	26-11-2002 03:09									#100
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quote: Originally posted by F-PRO The symbol of the democrats is the donkey (right? I'm not American so I'm not sure). But they don't say: "we should not let the donkey be our national symbol. We are denmocrats, not donkeys"

There's a distinct difference between Democrats and democrats. A Democrat is a member of the Democratic Party in the United States, while a democrat is anyone who believes in democratic values and is a practitioner of the democratic system. Much as most republicans are not Republicans, most democrats are not Democrats.

Aside from this entire issue, the Role-play team is currently not a democracy... we're a primitive despotism

[rp]

So I strongly suggest that all of this talk about the "rule of the masses" quiet down before the illustrious Togas decides that such seditious rhetoric needs to be forcibly silenced in the interest of public order...

[/rp]

	26-11-2002 04:08									#101
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Togas - can you list who is doing what (if anything)? I am available for anything that may be needed, although time for the next couple of weeks is kinda tight.

	26-11-2002 04:59									#102
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quote: Originally posted by Togas Try to create an identy for yourself be it the tavern owner, governor, rancher, merchant, explorer, warrior, prophet, lackey to the Despot or otherwise.

I could be the Scrollkeeper. That’s what I am in RL, more or less [librarian]

Or I could be the philosopher, who as an insider and outsider has the perspective to make pertinent observations about society. Of course, I would have to be from Andorra.

Or better yet, one of the early prophets of the Almighty Squid

	26-11-2002 05:39									#103
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To my knowledge (and memory) I have given out only a few titles:

Governor Ninot
Most Trusted Advisor Arnelos
High Priest General Tacticus
Chamber Pot Cleaner Godking




I can give out a few more titles here and there, but I propose that we all create title/jobs/roles for ourselves within the society. Titles/jobs/roles will change with time, but I'm pleased to see that we already have a tavern and some mercant/traders as well as a scribe in our midst.

Oh, and I'm still thinking about something appropriate for Davout...

--Togas

	26-11-2002 06:03									#104
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Of course this is merely a more exotic name... but Ninot, governor of the capital city could be appointed Lord of the Palace...
I personally think it sounds nice.

	26-11-2002 07:13									#105
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quote: Originally posted by Nuclear Winter Of course this is merely a more exotic name... but Ninot, governor of the capital city could be appointed Lord of the Palace... I personally think it sounds nice.

Lord of the Palace?

while it isnt INCREDIBLY descriptive, it has a nice ring, and seems like something a feudalistic or ancient civ may name an official of such things.

i like it!

	26-11-2002 08:39									#106
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[OOC]

(Arnelos does some digging and pulls out an ancient copy of the boardgame "Kingmaker", one of my old favorites )

Here are some English offices of government and noble titles from the medieval era... I'll have to go research Spanish titles later and post those (assuming that History Guy, among others, doesn't already know or can post it first ):

OFFICES (handed out by the King):

Chancellor of England = Chief Advisor to King and Leader of Parliament
Marshall of England = Ground forces SMC, commander of crown forces (as opposed to the majority of military forces, those loyal to individual nobles)
Admiral of England = Naval SMC, commander of crown naval forces (as opposed to the naval forces loyal to individual nobles)
Treasurer of England = the treasurer
Steward of the Royal Household = essentially protector of the crown and various royal palaces
Constable of the Tower of London = governor and protector of the capital city of London
Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster = regional administrator (of Lancaster)
Chancellor of the Duchy of Cornwall = regional administrator (of Cornwall)
Chamberlain of the County Palatinate of Chester = another regional administrator (low-level)
Warden of Cinque Ports = Protector and caretaker of several major ports
Warden of the Northern Marches = Regional Military Commander and protector of the border region (with Scotland)
Constable of Dover Castle = mayor and protector of the city of Dover

NOBLE TITLES:

5 Dukes (of "duchies")
11 Earls (of "earldoms")
2 Archbishops
4 Bishops
zillions of lesser nobles and honors, individual cities under their protection, etc.

Now, those are ENGLISH titles from the 15th Century during the War of the Roses, but I'll try to research Spanish titles (along with any Visigothic title system if I can dig one up for our ancient age). It's unlikely I'll be able to find anything for the Visigoths, so I recommend that we use a title system somewhat similar to the Latin/Roman conquerors of Iberia during this period (since that's what Iberia/Spain used...) if I we can't find anything for the Iberians or Visigoths themselves.

	26-11-2002 08:39									#107
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Senor Pikesfan and Senor Plague Rat can have a free plate of red wine fed squid, my compliments.

I see you are a genius of squid preparation, Senor Spamish Mitchell. I think that there might be a good pay for you if you'd like to become another partner in the Spain-spanning squid empire of Hernan de History Guy Calamari. We need men like you who know the art of the squid. You will get 1/3 of the profit (1/3 going to Nuclearis Winterus and another 1/3 going to the President of the Squid Company, my humble self). We shall be the big three, the merchants who will bring to notice the greatness of Spain to all other civilizations...that is when we open chain shops in foreign lands, far in the future...

Hernan de History Guy Calamari
Squid Salesman...

P.S. to Jdjdjd...

"Cardinal Fang! The COMFY CHAIR!"

"Nooooo! Not...the COMFY CHAIR!!"

"Would you prefer we use the SQUID?!"

"I'll get the COMFY CHAIR!!"

	27-11-2002 00:36									#108
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Can I run the Statistics Office if still available? Something like the Kingdom Major Registry (Registro Mayor del Reino) Our great leader needs reliable data to take his decisions

	27-11-2002 02:02									#109
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quote: Originally posted by History Guy "Cardinal Fang! The COMFY CHAIR!" "Nooooo! Not...the COMFY CHAIR!!" "Would you prefer we use the SQUID?!" "I'll get the COMFY CHAIR!!"

History Guy,

I was listening to an mp3 I have of much of the early part of that sketch last night as I was writing my post (in the other thread) about the Spanish nobility and church hierarchies

"In our arsenal are such diverse elements as fear, surprise, ruthless efficiency, a fanatical devotion to the pope and..... oh, rats!"

	27-11-2002 03:12									#110
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Chamber pot clean enough to eat off of (although I would't recommend it, sir).

	27-11-2002 03:18									#111
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quote: Originally posted by oliverfa Can I run the Statistics Office if still available? Something like the Kingdom Major Registry (Registro Mayor del Reino) Our great leader needs reliable data to take his decisions

Should you present some wonderful information about how much we get in taxes and how that money is spent, you may find yourself with a useful title.

But right now I don't know much about mathematics, currency, or statistics.

--Togas

	27-11-2002 05:45									#112
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I hereby announce that I am opening the

Spam Brand Squid Shop!
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The Spam Brand (go find it in the PRIVATE forum) fishes, precooks, and distributes its own Squid, and sells both to the masses and in bulk to the taverns.

EDIT: Find it in our very own PRIVATE C3PtWDG Roleplay forum, not the public forum.

	27-11-2002 06:58									#113
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quote: Originally posted by mrmitchell I hereby announce that I am opening the Spam Brand Squid Shop! --- The Spam Brand (go find it in the PRIVATE forum) fishes, precooks, and distributes its own Squid, and sells both to the masses and in bulk to the taverns. EDIT: Find it in our very own PRIVATE C3PtWDG Roleplay forum, not the public forum.

Well, we ARE a commercial civilization, afterall

COMPETITION in the Squid industry!

	27-11-2002 08:59									#114
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Senor Arnelos, it is quite brilliant, sir!

Senor Mitchell, I ask you to consider what you are doing. Gastronome Neecap has an aversion to squid not packaged by my company. He eats cacti for dessert. Perhaps you'd like to take me up on my offer of partnership? Squid to squid?

Hernan de History Guy Calamari
Undisputed Squid Baron...REALLY!!

	27-11-2002 10:09									#115
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quote: Originally posted by History Guy Senor Arnelos, it is quite brilliant, sir! Senor Mitchell, I ask you to consider what you are doing. Gastronome Neecap has an aversion to squid not packaged by my company. He eats cacti for dessert. Perhaps you'd like to take me up on my offer of partnership? Squid to squid? Hernan de History Guy Calamari Undisputed Squid Baron...REALLY!!

Senor Calamari,

FYI: It's Senor Clemente (no problem)

	27-11-2002 13:39									#116
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Certain members of the Plagiãtes clan are interested in the art of making gold. We do well on this one, and want to contribute.

I got this letter from dad:


Pedro Plagiãtes Perilius, wants to create a treasury for the dictator and work there for a while.
Just like he did with the one we had at our Hacienda.
Ooops, it was a family secret! Darn...
He asks if he can be a financial adviser or a treasurer?
My recommandations!

- regards, Señor Rodriguez Peligroso.


Is it okay?

	27-11-2002 22:48									#117
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I hereby announce that I have chosen a Slave Master to manage our tribe's slaves and to assist in the growth of our nation. That Slave Master is Senor Oliverius Fernandez.

I also decree that the priorities of the Slave Master shall be as follows:

First, Improve the production & growth of Madrid.
Second, Create roads towards future city sites.
Third, Connect our cities together via roads.
Fourth, link up resources and luxuries that are deemed vital to our national interests.

Let it be known that our dual goals shall be expansion and exploration. We are to contact as many civilizations as possible so that we may be the first to open diplomatic relations. I will be asking many of you soon to travel far and wide to represent our nation as an ambassador. I will also ask many of you to serve as governor of any newly founded cities.

--Togas

	27-11-2002 23:46									#118
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I have created a new post. I officially annouce that Senor Juan de Torquemada (Davout) will serve the people of Spain as our "Watcher" ... a better title may later be given to him.

He is to watch our people for foreign influence and spies and to determine if there are any treasonous plots at work. He will help protect us from trechery and dissention.

He will not have the power to kill, only to temporarily detain and to question. All decisions about life, death, and loyalty will ultimately be made by me. You are in good hands.

	28-11-2002 00:41									#119
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quote: Originally posted by Togas I hereby announce that I have chosen a Slave Master to manage our tribe's slaves and to assist in the growth of our nation. That Slave Master is Senor Oliverius Fernandez. --Togas

I feel really honoured that our Great Leader has choosen me for the task of guiding the labor of our slaves. I will do my best to serve the spanish civilization.

	28-11-2002 03:23									#120
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With unquestioned power to detain, won't the government become too powerful? Hey, Juan! What's...up? Senor Torquemada? What are you going to do with that club-

This is Ancient, the gov can do whatever the *(## #(%&( it wants.