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jdd2007 is offline jdd2007
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if someone threw a rock at me, id throw down my helmet and go punch him in the face

and the question that needs to be asked here is not who is wrong(er), but what the UN should do about it

the palestinians and israelis are both doing bad things, but what it boils down to is the hate fostered by the muslims against israel and jews.

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I'm sorry dinodoc but the support of terrorist groups is an american specialty.

The whole world knows it, even more so now that it has come back to bite you in the behind!

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I'm sorry dinodoc but the support of terrorist groups is an american specialty.
Do I really have to bore you with a flashback of Greek history? However, I am ghlad to see you acknowlege that the PKK is a terrorist organization.

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jdd2007, Yep. That's better option to me.. go there and give a fatherly beating. You can't be too scared of rocks, or you're in a wrong place to serve. If there's hundreds of people throwing, then it's definitely dangerous and can be deadly too, then pulling back is the option and coming back with more force. If crowd is big and hostile, it can easily become a bigger problem if you start shooting, there might be weapons near and become underdog in combat... It's not like you're abandoning the place and leave to the enemy or so, you're coming back soon and taking it back, and arresting people.

But I got to be more realist, if let's say I was alone in there, or only with few soldiers, big crowd, back up is not coming very soon and they start approaching, or are hitting you with rocks and there's nowhere to pull back, then yes. Then I'd shoot.

edit: and that's because I'd be then sure, they're very hostile, and want to kill you. Of course warning shots and let them know you're going to shoot them if they don't stop.. but if it's obvious they're not stopping, only getting more angry and it's a big crowd, chances are they're hitting you until you drop, and then come and kill everyone of you. SO then I would shoot maybe one in the leg and see the reaction, if it doesn't cool down and brake it, then shoot more. But I can't see this scenario happening very often, since you can almost every time just pull back as a last option. This doesn't mean pulling back to be the best and the first option.

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DD,
You assume. And you know what they say about that.
Also, you wouldn't know Greek history if it bited you in the behind like the terrorists you supported do

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The Greeks invented everything else, so I'm sure they invented terrorism, too.

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There is an interesting book about terrorist tactics in ancient Greece yes. At least that's what the review said.

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Make sure to watch Rocky III too to find out about Russia.

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I watched Dr. Zhivago instead.

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jdd2007, Yep. That's better option to me.. go there and give a fatherly beating.


Speaking of which, where are these children's parents, and why aren't they trying to dissuade their children from throwing rocks at armed soldiers?

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Or their grandmothers.

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Edan, I don't know.. but you got a point there.. it's a stupid stupid idea to throw rocks at armed soldiers.
And even with the best of us, it will happen eventually, that soldier shoots them. Who can you then blame? The kids knows the risks and are provoking them..
So if kid gets killed because he threw rocks for a month, I don't know.. he just had it coming I guess.
It's not cool kid getting shot, but he knew the risks and still did it.

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if someone threw a rock at me, id throw down my helmet and go punch him in the face


And get shot at by a sniper in the building off to your side.

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So much safer to just go ahead and shoot the kid.

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Well paiktis, what about the innocent israeli civilians that get murdered by terrorists you seem to always forget? Oh I now remember, you consider those terrorist scumbags "freedom fighters", shame on you!

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I consider them terrorists too.

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Edan, I don't know.. but you got a point there.. it's a stupid stupid idea to throw rocks at armed soldiers.
And even with the best of us, it will happen eventually, that soldier shoots them. Who can you then blame? The kids knows the risks and are provoking them..
So if kid gets killed because he threw rocks for a month, I don't know.. he just had it coming I guess.
It's not cool kid getting shot, but he knew the risks and still did it.


I'm not blaming the kids. I put the blame squarely at the leaders of the Palestinians (Hamas, Islamic Jihad, Fatah, the Palestinian Authority, etc). They're the ones that have built up a society founded on hatred, where they teach hated in their schools and have idolized terrorism.

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I consider them terrorists too.


For some reason I doubt it... because you obviously are pro-Palestinian. For what reason? They were given chance after chance after chance, and they blew it.

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I'm not blaming the kids. I put the blame squarely at the leaders of the Palestinians (Hamas, Islamic Jihad, Fatah, the Palestinian Authority, etc). They're the ones that have built up a society founded on hatred, where they teach hated in their schools and have idolized terrorism.


And without any reason whatsoever.
Some people...

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And without any reason whatsoever.
Some people...


Don't be so foolish, Palestinian leaders of the terrorist organizations Hamas, Hezbollah, etc are the ones causing problems. You know this. There is plenty of reason to blame on them.

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Edan, I agree that they're not helping the situation. I think that they are only spreading the hatred too..
It's dangerous, because they're young and easy to influence, so it's just another generation of future combatants (and terrorists) to come.

They have their reasons to hate, but teaching kids to hate too is not exactly bringing peace in coming years either.

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Such flamoyant display of literacy is unbecoming of a quivering mockery such as yourself my poor perturbated boris.

Fez, I'm pro peace and human rights.

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If a mob was throwing rocks at me, I'd shoot. But that's because I'm an American and in America we have a very simple rule - Don't throw rocks at people with guns.

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Blow them up instead?

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Paiktis, your bias obviously shows you are not a person of peace.

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Blow them up instead?


Damn straight. Why do you think we love bombers so much.

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I was talking about the kids throwing rocks...

 
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