 |
|
ayronis
|
|
New Haven, CT
Nov 2002
time: 00:24
|
|
quote:
Originally posted by FNBrown
The first chapter of Genesis gives a summary of the events on all six days of creation; the second chapter provides more details of certain events of the sixth day. |
That doesn't change the fact that Adam cannot both be created after the animals, and name the animals as they are created. It is a contradiction because only one of them could have happened.
|
|
| |
|
| |
|
| |
|
|
|
ayronis
|
|
New Haven, CT
Nov 2002
time: 00:24
|
|
from http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-god.html
"There are two parts to creationism. Evolution, specifically common descent, tells us how life came to where it is, but it does not say why. If the question is whether evolution disproves the basic underlying theme of Genesis, that God created the world and the life in it, the answer is no. Evolution cannot say exactly why common descent chose the paths that it did.
If the question is whether evolution contradicts a literal interpretation of the first chapter of Genesis as an exact historical account, then it does. This is the main, and for the most part only, point of conflict between those who believe in evolution and creationists. "
|
|
| |
|
|
|
loinburger
|
 |
Sweet Sauce Jones
Jul 1999
time: 00:24
|
|
FNBrown: Any Google search for biblical contradictions will provide you with a whole slew of them. Specifically, I ran a search for bible + contradictions -- here are some excerpts from the first site that came up...
quote:
Are we saved through works?
Ephesians 2:8,9 "For by grace are ye saved through faith . . . not of works."
Romans 3:20,28 "Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight."
Galatians 2:16 "Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ."
vs.
James 2:24 "Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only."
Matthew 19:16-21 "And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life? And he [Jesus] said unto him . . . keep the commandments. . . . The young man saith unto him, All these things have I kept from my youth up: what lack I yet? Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven."
The common defense here is that "we are saved by faith and works." But Paul said "not of works." |
quote:
Does God change his mind?
Malachi 3:6 "For I am the Lord; I change not."
Numbers 23:19 "God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent."
Ezekiel 24:14 "I the Lord have spoken it: it shall come to pass, and I will do it; I will not go back, neither will I spare, neither will I repent."
James 1:17 " . . . the Father of lights, with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning."
vs.
Exodus 32:14 "And the Lord repented of the evil which he thought to do unto his people."
Genesis 6:6,7 "And it repented the Lord that he had made man on the earth . . . And the Lord said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth . . . for it repenteth me that I have made him."
Jonah 3:10 ". . . and God repented of the evil, that he had said that he would do unto them; and he did it not."
See also II Kings 20:1-7, Numbers 16:20-35, Numbers 16:44-50.
See Genesis 18:23-33, where Abraham gets God to change his mind about the minimum number of righteous people in Sodom required to avoid destruction, bargaining down from fifty to ten. (An omniscient God must have known that he was playing with Abraham's hopes for mercy--he destroyed the city anyway.) |
quote:
Does God tempt people?
James 1:13 "Let no man say . . . I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man."
vs.
Genesis 22:1 "And it came to pass after these things, that God did tempt Abraham." |
Etcetera, etcetera. I'll agree that the Bible has merit, but I don't see how you could possibly contend that it is infallible...
|
|
| |
|
|
|
CyberShy
|
 |
Delft, The Netherlands
Mar 1999
time: 06:24
|
|
quote:
Boris: all of these things couldn't be here by chance, so it that proves God!" |
it's one of the arguments, but you're free to laugh about it. laugh some more!
quote:
First, you have no evidence that the earth isn't here by chance |
 pathatic.
if you think it's here by change, you're the one who should prove it. And yes, I know people are trying to prove that. It's morely that I want to point out how silly it is that I have to prove that it's not by change
quote:
your relying on such a subjective notion of "the earth is so pretty" is silly, as that's an opinion. Certainly there is also a lot ugliness, imperfection and such in the world, which goes against your theory. |
does it?
and, I know that my opinion about beauty doesn't have any importance to you. It does to me though, and the question was why I did not believe in evolution, remember.
but that was just a minute before you, some superior evolution fanatic fundamentalist, get in this thread just to use your modern jihad to spread your evolution gospel.
Go ahead, cut some troats. Your opinion is the only true one! All the others are idiots! Go and get them master Boris!
quote:
The mutation statement just shows you don't really know how evolution works. |
silly silly silly.
evolution works through mutation.
I know how it works, that's why I don't believe it.
|
|
| |
All times are GMT. The time now is 05:24.
Apolyton Time is 00:24. |
top of page
|
| archivepost |
|
Forum Rules:
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
|
HTML code is ON
vB code is ON
Smilies are ON
[IMG] code is ON
|
|
|
|
|
|
19-12-2002 01:41
So you are right on the trusting of my ability to observe and reason. 
You're making a scientific validity on a concept that isn't based on science? c'mon..
|