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You Americans seem to be brought up thinking that war is the first and only possible response. We just don't have your irrational bloodlust or disregard for the 'collatoral damage' any more since in the last couple of wars the collatoral damage was our families.



You mean getting trampled by draft dodgers?

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If you are going to post ill informed rubbish I might as well join in.

If you want to joke about the members of my family that were killed in the war please let me know how some of yours died so I can joke about them. I'm sure you'll find it hillarious.

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You Americans seem to be brought up thinking that war is the first and only possible response



Oh!!!
I git it
it is a joke

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Please don't make this one of those Americans are gun ho's and kill innocent civilians threads. This is about Americans killing Americans in their own country..

Yeah, I think most people are afraid of those crazy people, but at least they don't have guns in here .
But I have to admit.. I have shot my friend with a pellet gun when I was younger.. it made me all man and him a crying wimp who told my mother and got me totally screwed.

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OOO pellet gun......I got beamed by a beebee once when it ricocheted off a soda can my cousin was shooting..that hurt like HELL...I cant imagine getting shot my a PELLET straight on

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I can't either.. but he told me I wouldn't dare to shoot him , so it was his own fault . He had a vest on (not bullet proof), so I had to shoot him in his toe.

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Talkin bout violence

It should be broken down by ethnic race.

#1 cause of death for young black males is homicide!

Prob same for hispanic

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Originally posted by Docfeelgood Oh!!!
I git it
it is a joke


Kind of. It's a game everyone plays on Apolyton. Someone says something completely ridiculous about a group of posters or people, then someone else from that group says something equally ridiculous in reverse about the first.

It's great fun. You can see it being played in 90% of the threads here. The rest Ming closes because he's a bastard.

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Kind of. It's a game everyone plays on Apolyton. Someone says something completely ridiculous about a group of posters or people, then someone else from that group says something equally ridiculous in reverse about the first.



oooooh!

your good

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Docfeegood, Gang wars contributes big numbers to the body count.. Maybe they should send military in the problem areas or something.

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#1 cause of death for young black males is homicide!

Prob same for hispanic


and I wonder who kills them'

Probably white people

would you beleive white on white crime is higher than minority on minority..

Look at columbine..look at any other school shootings

what ethnic group played a part in those..?

yes...please...it SHOULD be broken down by ethnic race.

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oooooh!

your good



Hey! Quote the bit about Ming being a bastard as well!

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FemmeAdonis, True true.. and what do you think of when you hear news about serial killers? White young males. School shootings in generals? White young males. And most of the times it's right on the button.

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Hey, I don't make this s!hit up!

I just read it.

Oh yea!

It is black on black.

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Talkin bout violence

It should be broken down by ethnic race.

#1 cause of death for young black males is homicide!

Prob same for hispanic


Well that is part of the inner city poverty thing I wrote about. They are more likely to be poor and one of the few ways to make money would be crime. I think for a large part US gun violence is criminal vs criminal as well (or gang vs gang, but that is more or less the same thing).

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Hey! Quote the bit about Ming being a bastard as well!



the other was a good stand alone by itself.

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I think not.


It is an established fact, and even Americans agree, that the American social security system is worse than that in most European nations. The UN has also concluded that the US has relatively more people below the universal powerty line than most European nations.

The question is...in what way, if at all, does this contribute to more violence.

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Saw the posts afterwards. I think the only reason you notice the white young male shooting up a school thing, is because it happens in the suburbs and is therefore more "important" to the "general" American public.

Serial killers are far and few between. You get 3-4 a year max, but the inherent horror factor means there's more publicity for them than for some gangbangers shooting up some other gangbangers in some Midwest shithole.

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lightblue, Yep.. I also suspected most of the killings would be criminal vs. criminal, at least in here it is exclusively so. So.. why do ordinary people need them, if that's the case? Why sub urban white rich guy need 9 rifles and uzi to protect the house?

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It don't take a rocket scientist to surmise that the largest ethnic race in America so far is white.

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Originally posted by Docfeelgood the other was a good stand alone by itself.


The more posts saying he's a bastard, the more at home he'll feel.

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Saw the posts afterwards. I think the only reason you notice the white young male shooting up a school thing, is because it happens in the suburbs and is therefore more "important" to the "general" American public.

Serial killers are far and few between. You get 3-4 a year max, but the inherent horror factor means there's more publicity for them than for some gangbangers shooting up some other gangbangers in some Midwest shithole.


you could say the same thing about the "gangbanger shootings"...the media is very manipulative..they USE what SELLS.

whats going to grab peoples attention..

"those darn black kids scrwing around out there"...or "them dang mexycans shooting eachother up"

you think white kids dont go around doing the same crap?...NOoOO..its all hush hush..

And the school shootings...I agree..it was a tragedy on suburbia..OOoh my GOD..these children..these WHITE children..what a tragedy..

but if it happens to a handful of minorities..its like "oh well" :\


THe MEDIA is the true bad guy here.

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lightblue, Yep.. I also suspected most of the killings would be criminal vs. criminal, at least in here it is exclusively so. So.. why do ordinary people need them, if that's the case? Why sub urban white rich guy need 9 rifles and uzi to protect the house?


They don't, but the fact that they have these weapons do not make it more likely that they will use it. I think it strokes the average american's ego that they can own a piece of apparatus that can kill or maim dozens of people. I'd wager that less than 1% of the guns owned by suburban middle class people ever gets fired in anger.

It does make it more likely that shooting sprees (of the going "postal" kind) happen, seeing as here people will go look for a fight in a pub or something to get it out of their system, instead of using their semiautomatic.

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The media is always the bad guy.

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OMG there is so many directions to go in to place blame.
From tv to whats put in the drinking water.

Personely I think it is the hormon levels that makes one violent.

Too much testosterone will make one climb a tower with a scoped rifle.

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anyone seen American History X?

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Too much testosterone will make one climb a tower with a scoped rifle.


University of texas at Austin....

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Too much testosterone will make one climb a tower with a scoped rifle.


That's why marajuana should be legal, can't be bothered with climbing if you are stoned.

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That's why marajuana should be legal, can't be bothered with climbing if you are stoned.


PLus..everyone will be too bust chillin to wanna have any beef with anyone..

they'll be like..."heeey its okay.....puff puff give, its all good"

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you could say the same thing about the "gangbanger shootings"...the media is very manipulative..they USE what SELLS.

whats going to grab peoples attention..

"those darn black kids scrwing around out there"...or "them dang mexycans shooting eachother up"

you think white kids dont go around doing the same crap?...NOoOO..its all hush hush..

And the school shootings...I agree..it was a tragedy on suburbia..OOoh my GOD..these children..these WHITE children..what a tragedy..

but if it happens to a handful of minorities..its like "oh well" :\


THe MEDIA is the true bad guy here.


True, it is the same here. When I lived in Longsight, Manchester (which is prolly about as rough an area as you are going to get in the UK), there were 3 fatal shootings (drug related) within 200yds of my house in the year i stayed there. You'd think that this'd be big news in Manchester at the very least, but it didn't warrant a mention on the local news, and was only on page 5 or so of the local paper.

Now if some little white girl goes missing, the whole country goes in panic mode even it just turns out she ran off somewhere.

 
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