22-09-2003 16:04									#241
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Tough luck Curt....


He wouldn't dare utter such a despicable thing for fantasy fans, unless he had a "globe of invunerability" cast upon him first.

	22-09-2003 19:06									#242
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Argh! I am undone!

*shakes fist, vows revenge, then falls from castle window*

	23-09-2003 04:30									#243
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quote: Originally posted by fairline Only kidding, before some deranged Dungeons and Dragons-obsessed 12 year-old decides to mail me a letter bomb / curse me with a level 12 spell..

You are revealing that you have more knowledge in this area than you should. I certainly don't fit this stereotype - I'm the long-haired, metal T-shirt-wearing type who is sorely in need of a shave. That's a different stereotype.

quote: Originally posted by fairline Catfish and William: how about that 'how to convert / reduce graphics' advice thread?

Nag, nag, nag. I'm writing one. I want to know more about PSP's masks and selections before I post. Currently, I have some pretty shoddy methods. However, if I don't have time, I'll post one, warts and all.

quote: Originally posted by curtsibling Bwah! I'm gonna fire a 'magic missile!' ?

Please cease this embarrassing behaviour, immediately!

	23-09-2003 06:20									#244
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I fire magic missiles... at the darkness!

	23-09-2003 07:23									#245
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quote: Originally posted by William Keenan I hate to risk starting another avalanche of OT discussion but I'm wondering how St. Leo knows the price of Russian chicks!

That was Palaiologous, doofus. I was the one who was propounding equal rights.

	23-09-2003 10:21									#246
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quote: Originally posted by fairline I think that just confirms my worst fears about fantasy fans . Only kidding, before some deranged Dungeons and Dragons-obsessed 12 year-old decides to mail me a letter bomb / curse me with a level 12 spell..

I'm not 12 any more but if you'd care to give me an address ... or tell me your magic resistance ... ?

	23-09-2003 15:33									#247
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quote: Originally posted by Catfish Please cease this embarrassing behaviour, immediately!

Ha!

I was only mocking the stereotype of a geeky bespectacled kid who plays Warhammer!

I am actually a skin-headed metal T-shirt wearing nerd, who listens to italian symphonic metal bands!

Wait!
That's almost as embarrassing!

...To some people!

	23-09-2003 15:48									#248
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quote: Originally posted by St Leo That was Palaiologous, doofus. I was the one who was propounding equal rights.

??????

EQUAL WHAT? ????????????

	23-09-2003 15:56									#249
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quote: Originally posted by Catfish I certainly don't fit this stereotype - I'm the long-haired, metal T-shirt-wearing type who is sorely in need of a shave. That's a different stereotype.

Okay dudes real question: Don't most RPG fans fit this "I'm the long-haired, metal T-shirt-wearing type who is sorely in need of a shave." stereotype?

At least in Greece they do.

	23-09-2003 16:51									#250
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I guess the fantasy genre does appeal to guys who look like Aragorn. (or think they do)

And with LOTR being popular this trend will extend to all walks of life...

For example:
While visiting my friend's house some weeks ago, a gang of 6 kids ran out of the apartment block all with plastic swords.
One yelled to his buddy "You can be Aragorn, but I wanna be Legolas!"

Totally cool!
LOTR has recaptured these kid's imaginations from the world of PS2 and TV...And that is a good thing!

	23-09-2003 16:56									#251
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quote: Originally posted by Palaiologos Okay dudes real question: Don't most RPG fans fit this "I'm the long-haired, metal T-shirt-wearing type who is sorely in need of a shave." stereotype? At least in Greece they do.

Well, I can't say I've encountered any, except myself - or at least they don't own up to it.

quote: Originally posted by curtsibling I was only mocking the stereotype of a geeky bespectacled kid who plays Warhammer!

I was taking the piss.

quote: Originally posted by curtsibling I am actually a skin-headed metal T-shirt wearing nerd, who listens to italian symphonic metal bands!

Nothing wrong with that. It's more thrash, black, grindcore and traditional for me.

	23-09-2003 17:32									#252
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So Catfish, when are you going to give us access to those pretty terrains on page five?

I could use them for a ToT scenario!

	23-09-2003 17:36									#253
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I don't understand.

I've got the impression from your posts that fantasy fans are embarassed for their interests.

How can that be?. I am a veteran RPG player 8 years now rarely have i encountered critism for this particular hobby.

	23-09-2003 17:38									#254
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quote: Originally posted by curtsibling So Catfish, when are you going to give us access to those pretty terrains on page five? I could use them for a ToT scenario!

Hasn't he already?

Look at the Non-unit thread.

	23-09-2003 18:22									#255
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quote: Originally posted by Palaiologos I don't understand. I've got the impression from your posts that fantasy fans are embarassed for their interests. How can that be?. I am a veteran RPG player 8 years now rarely have i encountered critism for this particular hobby.

I think most of the comments were in good humour.

Like any social hobby, in the RPG or fantasy comic world you get those who are dedicated to it (like yourself)
and those fakes who you would not that sit and have a pint with (the geeks)...

I deal with comics and fantasy art people on a regular basis, and while I can 'turn off' the fantasy comic person mode, some nerds cannot.

	23-09-2003 18:32									#256
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quote: Originally posted by Palaiologos Hasn't he already? Look at the Non-unit thread.

Yes, but obviously (from the reactions) it's gone largely unnoticed. I posted them there when you (Curt) asked about them. Download here

	23-09-2003 18:39									#257
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Wow! An entire page without ANY graphics.

	23-09-2003 18:43									#258
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quote: Originally posted by Catfish Yes, but obviously (from the reactions) it's gone largely unnoticed. I posted them there when you (Curt) asked about them. Download here

Cheers, at a second glance, I found the link!

I didn't notice it, at first.

I must say your terrain is most funky, and I wish to ask permission to use some of it (with credit of course)
when I do this ToT project I have committed myself to.

	23-09-2003 18:44									#259
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quote: Originally posted by William Keenan Wow! An entire page without ANY graphics.

I'll fix that!

Here is a zealous witch-hunter from my Bitterfrost scenario.

	23-09-2003 18:45									#260
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And thanks for the idea on that little book he is holding, Will!

I borrowed the concept from your Orc Shaman.

Nice design!

	23-09-2003 18:55									#261
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quote: Originally posted by curtsibling I think most of the comments were in good humour.

I know that dude.

I meant the general impression.


In Greece you see we have a different kind of critisism.

It is called "Orthodox priests bombarding the media about how satanic and evil fantasy hobies are".

But admitedly thats rare.

quote: Here is a zealous witch-hunter from my Bitterfrost scenario.

"Sorcery gives power.Power corrupts.Therefore sorcery is evil."-Conan.

	23-09-2003 20:19									#262
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I always laugh at the line some religious leaders take about fantasy hobbies.

*rant mode on*

What do they want?
The kids wo delve in to the happy 'real-world' with drugs, porn and all the other crap from our society.

More likely they want the kids (and everyone, for that matter) to bow and follow their human church of cash-worship.

Fantasy is a better escape.

*rant mode off*

Phew...!

	23-09-2003 21:20									#263
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quote: Originally posted by curtsibling More likely they want the kids (and everyone, for that matter) to bow and follow their human church of cash-worship

Are you refering to the priests? You mean the priests want people to "follow their human church of cash worship"?

Just thought of clarifying it before i unlease my thunderous arguments.

	23-09-2003 21:28									#264
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Now, now!

Let's keep the subject on graphics, I have already went grossly off topic with my rant!

In short, I am a big fan of fantasy, and I will defend it against any political/religious stuffed-shirt with an agenda.

	23-09-2003 21:29									#265
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PS
The 'cash worship' thing was only aimed at political types, not anybody's faith...

	24-09-2003 01:17									#266
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No curt.You see it was not my faith that i felt offended.

Actually i am an atheist-of sorts.I support the orthodox church, its institutions, its functions, its people, but not its preachings.

Men make their own fate.What we term as God i see as moral guidelines.The personification of these morals takes the form of Christ in the western religions.But this is just my point of view.Any man knows deep inside him what is decent and right, christian, muslim or whatever.
One could very well live an honourably life, without being a devout worshiper.

What i perceived as offense was the implication of clergymen as "unethical".All(well most) priests i know are good decent, honourable folk.Unfortunately these days many people are attacking the church for no other reason but to be politicaly correct. Denial of religions seems to be trendy in our times.

Last edited by Palaiologos on 24-09-2003 at 01:25

	24-09-2003 02:51									#267
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Pericles, Respect!

There are many religions, and many people involved.

Nope, I would not make a blanket statement against anybody's beliefs.

I just feel scorn for those zealous fundy types who attack something like RPG hobbies,
when we have drugs, porn and a myriad other real problems out there.

I wish no offense to any honest religious folk, only the people who use religion as a tool to control.

	24-09-2003 03:10									#268
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By Odin, will someone post some units?!

In an attempt to hose down this thread, here are a couple of guys I did on the weekend. The one on the left is the subject of that bloody tutorial I'm doing.

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	24-09-2003 03:21									#269
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Most impressive!

	24-09-2003 03:27									#270
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In the words of Conan: "Enough Talk!"

Here is a weird naval unit from Bitterfrost, as used by the tribal Zatarn civ...

A large lizard with a howdah on it's scaly back!

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