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H Tower is offline H Tower
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Although my small nation is self-suficient, the government desires to give the people luxury items such as automobiles, trout, and wood chips, etc, etc.

In return for these trade goods my nation is unable to produce itself, the Dominion of Zoran will offer access to our well developed book publishing industry. We are also eager to trade carbonated beverages, called Soda as an export. We have one more area of commerce that we excel in, door to door sales. We have severl experts in the field which we are will send to your nation to train your people in the art of door to door sales.


Zoran's department of Commerce and Industry eagerly awaits the arrival of ammbassadors from the other nations of our newly settled region to begin negotiations with.

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Apparently my main commodity is gambing. Can I trade you some gambling?

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while zoran does not desire gambling to take place within its borders, perhaps if your country allowed more tourism, and legalized gambling, we could use our door to door salesmen to sell vacations to your country. However, since gambling is illegal in your country, we must respectively decline your offer since we do not wish our citizens to become outlaws in other countries

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Greater Finland has excellent Trout farms. Maybe we could strike up a trade agreement.

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the Kingdom of Eternal Cold excels in cheese (shipped frozen to ensure freshness) and pizza delivery as well as soda. Door to door salesman are quite annoying and thus strictly illegal, though book publishing and trout would be welcome in trade.

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The Commonwealth of Akiria is willing to supply the region of Apolyton with its newly discovered defensive laser system, at cost price. The defensive matrix is capable of knocking any wayward ICBMs or nukes out of orbit, and has a hgihly evolved semi-sentient tracking computer on board, that can detect who is a threat and act accordingly, and as such, is completely self sufficient. This is so sofisticated, it is currently being implimented on the International Space Station as one of its primary defensive capabilities.

We also have substansial trout farms and IT capabilities that we are willing to sell for a modest profit

This has been an official advertisment on behalf of the People of The Commonwealth of Akiria

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The Commonwealth of Akiria is willing to supply the region of Apolyton with its newly discovered defensive laser system, at cost price. The defensive matrix is capable of knocking any wayward ICBMs or nukes out of orbit, and has a hgihly evolved semi-sentient tracking computer on board, that can detect who is a threat and act accordingly, and as such, is completely self sufficient. This is so sofisticated, it is currently being implimented on the International Space Station as one of its primary defensive capabilities.
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Zoran has no interest in increased military spending at this time or in the forseeable future.

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We also have substansial trout farms and IT capabilities that we are willing to sell for a modest profit

what about creating a trade agreement, not a straight up sale?

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That is acceptable. What do you propose to trade?

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How exactly does one create a trade agreement?

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How exactly does one create a trade agreement?


by negotiation of course

Drogue: my nation has a thriving book publishing business, perhaps we can help you publish your IT manuals in return for favorable prices in your Trout market.

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Perhaps the Commonwealth of Akiria would see fit to exchange weapons for Uranium? The use of nuclear power would allow for large energy consumption with little or no environmental impact.

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Got spare money?

Karakas is a commercial paradise, and our cheese exports are second to none, if you're interested.

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Ubinia has many sea shells that we would be willing to trade with in exchange for some practical commodities - wood chips to line the beds of our pygmy gazelles, perhaps.


But please, do not buy any Ubinian trout, it comes from the black market and is strictly prohibited!

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the Kingdom of Eternal Cold excels in cheese (shipped frozen to ensure freshness). book publishing would be welcome in trade.


Your proposal sounds interesting, what kind of publishing needs do you require? Zoran's publishing capacity is unparrelled and can furnish quality books to any nation that desires them. When we know the volume of texts you desire, then we can discuss how much cheese you will be willing to part with in return

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Governor of Centralis: We have defensive arms, that we are perfectly willing to supply to anyone, and the Uranium would be very useful. What weaponry are you interested in? We have the CND-1 Orbital Defense Matrix, EMP-112 anti-electronic device and a whole range of heavily armed tanks diplomatic rocket-proof cars.

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But please, do not buy any Ubinian trout, it comes from the black market and is strictly prohibited!


Zoran will respect the Ubinian request, besides, we're about to conclude a deal with Akiria

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Governor of Centralis: We have defensive arms, that we are perfectly willing to supply to anyone, and the Uranium would be very useful. What weaponry are you interested in? We have the CND-1 Orbital Defense Matrix, EMP-112 anti-electronic device and a whole range of heavily armed tanks diplomatic rocket-proof cars.


The diplomatic vehicles and EMP devices would be most useful - and perhaps your arms industry would be willing to use some of our uranium to manufacture bullets tipped with depleted uranium? My scientists have assured me that in small quantities, it's health & environmental impacts would be neglegible, and they would be most useful for defense against armoured vehicles.

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The people of Zoran wish to make a plea to all nations to be peaceful and not to begin an arms race that will prove to be destructive to all of our developing nations. Peace is the fastest way to prosperity

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The Republic of Centralis has no wish to intiate an arms race or to threaten it's neighbours - merely to ensure it's own defense against potential enemies and to stimulate our economy.

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The interests of Jedinica Vrijstaat and Akiria happen to clash again. We both have large exporting arms industries.

GeneralTacticus, wouldn't you want to reconsider your contract with Akiria and sign one with me instead? I can assure you the material coming out of Jedinican factories is of much better quality than that of the developing Akirian economy. Above that, unlike in Akiria there isn't any active civil rights movements in my state, so there would be no problem at all with producing uranium tipped bullets for you. Supply is guaranteed.

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Your proposal sounds interesting, what kind of publishing needs do you require? Zoran's publishing capacity is unparrelled and can furnish quality books to any nation that desires them. When we know the volume of texts you desire, then we can discuss how much cheese you will be willing to part with in return

we have a plentitude of sci-fi and fantasy writers along with other types of fiction, not to mention reprints of 1st Ed. AD&D material, plus the best-selling multi-volume The 1,000,001 Ways to Prevent Your Execution: How to Avoid Annoying the King

we should be able to part with a great deal of cheese, as there's quite a surplus generated by political prisoners ...er.... hardworking members of the dairy industry

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The interests of Jedinica Vrijstaat and Akiria happen to clash again. We both have large exporting arms industries.

GeneralTacticus, wouldn't you want to reconsider your contract with Akiria and sign one with me instead? I can assure you the material coming out of Jedinican factories is of much better quality than that of the developing Akirian economy. Above that, unlike in Akiria there isn't any active civil rights movements in my state, so there would be no problem at all with producing uranium tipped bullets for you. Supply is guaranteed.


Hmmm... a tempting offer. what kind of arms would you be prepared to sell? I would be willing to transfer the ammo contract to you as well, providing that you're willing to supply the uranium.

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Would the Kingdom of eternal Cold be willing to supply in cheese to our retail industry in exchange for uranium?

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The People of The Commonwealth of Akiria do not wish an arms race, and, as staunch pacifists, will only supply defensive weapons.

Governor of Centralis: The EMP devices cost 100,000 Akirian Roses (=50,000 Gold Coins) and the diplomatic vehicles, of which I suggest our newest model, affectionatly known as The Big Fat Juggernaught, cost 50,000 Akirian Roses. Might I suggest this is equivalent to 5 tonnes of reactor grade uranium? We do not wish to create weapons, so the uranium must be suitable for our new nuclear power stations.

Governor of Zoran: That is a great idea. We will lower our price from 10,000 Roses per tonne, to 5,000 (cost price) in exchange for the publishing of our new book: The Wonders of Virtual War: how to let go of aggressive feelings, safely. Is this acceptable terms?

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Besides of course more modern models of the Akirian weapons, we have recently designed improved models of our SAM-643 Viking Scribe missiles, Lion class light tanks, Sealurk nuclear submarines and B-54 Locust stealth bombers. And naturally we would be willing to supply the uranium for the ammo! Jedinica Vrijstaat happens to possess a large number of uranium mines itself.

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I can assure you the material coming out of Jedinican factories is of much better quality than that of the developing Akirian economy.

Better quality my **** My ammunition scientists are the best in all Apolyton, and our products unrivaled! To change tack now would be a foolish act for Centralis. I implore you, general, think of your people!

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You Jedinicians have no backbone! If you insist on such warmongering, and the creation of such vile weapons, we shall immediatly cease all diplomatic contact and shall declare Jedinicia evil You're no better than Lemmy

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Governor of Centralis: The EMP devices cost 100,000 Akirian Roses (=50,000 Gold Coins) and the diplomatic vehicles, of which I suggest our newest model, affectionatly known as The Big Fat Juggernaught, cost 50,000 Akirian Roses. Might I suggest this is equivalent to 5 tonnes of reactor grade uranium? We do not wish to create weapons, so the uranium must be suitable for our new nuclear power stations.


Would you need to have the uranium enriched prior to export, or would you deal with that yourselves? We have several enrishment plants built to serve the mining industry, but would be willing to export more if the product was raw uranium ore rather than already refined. The choice is yours. Also, just how many of these weapon sstem would you be prepared to sell? Our uranium mines can provide enough to pay for almost anything.

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Besides of course more modern models of the Akirian weapons, we have recently designed improved models of our SAM-643 Viking Scribe missiles, Lion class light tanks, Sealurk nuclear submarines and B-54 Locust stealth bombers. And naturally we would be willing to supply the uranium for the ammo! Jedinica Vrijstaat happens to possess a large number of uranium mines itself.


The problem arises, of course, as to what export commodity we might provide in exchange - we would be willing, for example, to enrich your uranium for you, if you like. In any case, we would be interested in aquiring some of these 'Locust' stealth bombers that you speak of, as well as some missiles to equip them with.

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Better quality my **** My ammunition scientists are the best in all Apolyton, and our products unrivaled! To change tack now would be a foolish act for Centralis. I implore you, general, think of your people!


Do not fear for the future of our contract; Centralis is quite prepared to sign contracts with both Jedinica and Akiria. Moreover, Jedinica is willing to provide weapons not produced by Akiria, as well as being able to provide material for the ammo on it's own. Unless a compelling reason to the contrary is provided, I shall present both contracts to the Centralis Parliament for ratification.

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I wanna trade. Something for something.


What commodities do you have available? We can supply you with uranium (raw or enriched), book publishing services, or a retail market for your own goods.

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Yes!! Lemmy should read this. I'm making him look like a softy dictator. Does that also mean you want to put me into prison, as Lemmy always wanted to get in?? Or... oh no, you don't have any prisons...
* Maniac walks away unpunished.

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You Jedinicians have no backbone! If you insist on such warmongering, and the creation of such vile weapons, we shall immediatly cease all diplomatic contact and shall declare Jedinicia evil You're no better than Lemmy


I must implore you, sir, do not simply break off diplomacy because you dislike their products! It is the use to which they are put which determines their good or evil, not their mere existence.

 
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