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Oregon Coast, USA! or Bohol, Philippines!
Apr 1999
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Just heard this on FOX, can it be true? Second only to the US is what I assume they are saying. More troops than Germany or GB?
Good for them, but why does Turkey need such a large army?
Anyone have a chart on NATO force levels?
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Eli
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Israel
Jul 2000
time: 07:24
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They are preparing together with Israel for a joint invasion of Greece.
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Lancer
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Oregon Coast, USA! or Bohol, Philippines!
Apr 1999
time: 05:24
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Lancer
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Oregon Coast, USA! or Bohol, Philippines!
Apr 1999
time: 05:24
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I'm beginning to see a dark plot growing to take over the Greek wing of Apolyton, eh Imran, eh?
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David Floyd
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The bottom of a large bottle of beer
Jan 1970
time: 05:24
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Yes, Turkey has the second-largest army in NATO. Quality-wise, though, and in terms of warfighting power, I doubt it's above GB or Germany.
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Comrade Tassadar
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Originally posted by David Floyd
As was pointed out before, 300,000 peasants aren't going to defeat 30,000 heavily armed professional troops. Especially not when backed up by air, naval, industrial, and technological supremacy  |
How about 370,000,000?  Along with, of course, conscription and local militia forces 
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David Floyd
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The bottom of a large bottle of beer
Jan 1970
time: 05:24
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China doesn't have 370,000,000 men. They have that potential manpower, but then again, the US has the potential manpower for about 70,000,000. That's a 5:1 ratio of Chinese to Americans, yet I would have to say that one US division could defeat five Chinese ones without much trouble.
In fact, at Chosin Resevoir, 1st Marine Division defeated nine Chinese divisions.
And at 73 Easting, elements of the US 2nd ACR defeated large elements of the Tawalkana and 12th Armored Divisions.
But on the other hand, China has no more of a chance at fielding 370 million men than the US has at fielding 70 million.
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David Floyd
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The bottom of a large bottle of beer
Jan 1970
time: 05:24
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I guess when we get around to killing China off (Because remember, it has long range nukes and its an ally of Pakistan ) we'll see won't we? |
Arguing about nukes is pointless. If a nuclear war starts, no one wins. Although in a US vs. China nuclear war, China would lose much worse. A US attack sub would take out China's only Xia in the first 30 seconds, and it's possible that a US first strike with nuclear armed B-2s and SSBNs right off the coast could almost completely disarm China's ICBM force.
We'd still probably lose some major West Coast cities, though.
In any case, any forseeable US vs. China war would be an air/naval war primarily. You can't even begin to argue that China could present a naval challenge, and I think it's sufficiently clear that China's obsolete air force (with under 200 reasonably modern fighters) could hope to take on the USAF.
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David Floyd
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The bottom of a large bottle of beer
Jan 1970
time: 05:24
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Perhaps, SM, but the US was by no means fully committed, in terms of military power, to the war.
And any war on the Korean Peninsula today would be primarily fought by the South Korea army rather than the US.
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