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Albert Speer is offline Albert Speer
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you know...

Something has always bothered me with these pop stars that I don't understand... why do they dress slutty? Their dress (or lack of it) seems to be in order to appeal to males but males will never buy their records... their sales are entirely from pre-teenage girls who (though I don't know too much about pre-teenage girls), are not attracted to listening to Britney Spears because of her...

So somebody please explain to me why these girls dress slutty


thanks

Ted Striker is offline Ted Striker
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Shakira isn't too bad but Christina Aguilara has turned into a complete whore.

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Yeah, I wonder how Mickey feels about that.

Shi Huangdi is offline Shi Huangdi
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"why do they dress slutty?"

Why wouldn't they? Look around your high school during one of the warmer times and you'll find many of the students are dressed slutty. Dressing that way is part of our culture for many girls, so it'd make sense they would conform to it.

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Never mind warmer times - it was close to freezing tonight, but still a good dose of in this city...

The Mad Monk is offline The Mad Monk
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Ted Striker is offline Ted Striker
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The thing I find tragic about all this is that alot of really pretty girls in high school end up being angry and mistrustful 10 years down the road because a bunch of guys mistreated them because they just wanted a piece of action.

Thanks Christina for help riling up a bunch of horny guys into thinking every chick they see showing some skin is a hump object. Her video is outright obscene and should not have been aired.

The culture in this place has really gone downhill over the last 20 years, no wonder family fabric has degenerated.

Albert Speer is offline Albert Speer
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Black Dragon:

yes I know... all the coochie cutters and ****... but why do these women (or in some cases, girls) who are out in the media all the time and in videos and being idolized by young girls... why do they see the need to dress slutty? Why don't they be a role-model for not being a whore?

JCG is offline JCG
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Dressing slutty sells. Shakira's just following the trend set by Christina et al.

The Mad Monk is offline The Mad Monk
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It's been going on since before you were born.

Consider Madonna.

She wasn't the first.

Albert Speer is offline Albert Speer
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JCG:

HOW THE HELL DOES IT SELL?!

Teenie boppers dont buy her cd because of the sluttiness... only males are attracted to the sluttiness and they won't buy her cds!

Ted Striker is offline Ted Striker
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It's been going on since before you were born.

Consider Madonna.

She wasn't the first.


I think Elvis was the first one to do it on a large scale by shaking his hips. He was banned in many places. Even Eminem pays homage to Elvis.

Shi Huangdi is offline Shi Huangdi
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"Teenie boppers dont buy her cd because of the sluttiness... "

The sluttiness is part of image that sells. Now as to why teenie boppers like that is beyond me.

"Why don't they be a role-model for not being a whore?"

so they can make $

Ted Striker is offline Ted Striker
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Well BD,

In a related topic, I just saw the dolls my little niece got for Christmas and they also look like total whores, so I would say you are on to something there

Drake Tungsten is offline Drake Tungsten
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Shakira =

Albert Speer is offline Albert Speer
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but why would sluttiness EVER sell to pre-teenage girls?! It sells to men...

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I know, it's crazy. But my 6 year old niece is wearing "skimpy" outfits and so forth to try to imitate her idols. It's rather disturbing actually.

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but why would sluttiness EVER sell to pre-teenage girls?! It sells to men...


And who are girls trying to impress?

Ted Striker is offline Ted Striker
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Speaking of which...has anyone else seen reports of teenage girls who are acting like lesbians to try and attract guys?

I mean if you're going to be a lesbian, be a lesbian, but doing it to attract guys is pathetic! I'm sure you're going to get some great guys from acting like that and I'm sure their intentions for you aren't going to be one-dimensional.

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We had a discussion along these very lines not too long ago Ted. In short, I agree with you.

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but why would sluttiness EVER sell to pre-teenage girls?! It sells to men...


Why do any kind of high-heeled shoes sell?
Why does make-up sell?

Women are taught to dress to appeal to men. No woman I know actually likes being in high-heeled shoes, but they wear them because they "look good" -- meaning they look good to men. Most women I know hate the regime of make-up, but very few reject it because the're taught they just don't "look good" -- to men -- without it.

Teeny-boppers are entering puberty and sexual awareness. They fantasize about being desireable and wanted. Brittany is a role model for precisely that reason. She's not appealing to boys; she's appealing to girls who want to be appealing to boys. Get it?

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Why do any kind of high-heeled shoes sell?
Why does make-up sell?

Women are taught to dress to appeal to men. No woman I know actually likes being in high-heeled shoes, but they wear them because they "look good" -- meaning they look good to men. Most women I know hate the regime of make-up, but very few reject it because the're taught they just don't "look good" -- to men -- without it.

Teeny-boppers are entering puberty and sexual awareness. They fantasize about being desireable and wanted. Brittany is a role model for precisely that reason. She's not appealing to boys; she's appealing to girls who want to be appealing to boys. Get it?


Actually, not all men like slutty morons. Well, this just shows IMO, that those
girls who buy Christina etc. and dress like sluts are morons.

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The thing I find tragic about all this is that alot of really pretty girls in high school end up being angry and mistrustful 10 years down the road because a bunch of guys mistreated them because they just wanted a piece of action.

Thanks Christina for help riling up a bunch of horny guys into thinking every chick they see showing some skin is a hump object. Her video is outright obscene and should not have been aired.

The culture in this place has really gone downhill over the last 20 years, no wonder family fabric has degenerated.

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I think society should just stop reading so much into what fabric someone uses to cover up their body (or not). I'd be far more worried if these pop-stars were encouraging underage sex, drugs, etc.

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I want my popstars dressed as middle age christian mothers

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Speaking of which...has anyone else seen reports of teenage girls who are acting like lesbians to try and attract guys?


Where? Where?!

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I detest the modern pop culture.

and I really detest the notion that itīs ok for a girl to be a whore (which it is nowadays). Itīs that way in movies, tv shows (sex and the city, for one), and music. For a long time itīs been ok for a guy to be an absolute slut (just look at james bond), and thatīs sad enough as it is. Sadly, itīs spreading to women too. Young ones at that. Girls are losing their virginities at ever younger ages. Just sad.

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Why should it not be okay? Why should we not let people take whatever roles they feel like? Certainly, I detest the preassure present in today's patriarchal culture that makes women want to be commodities, to try to sell themselves and their bodies, but just as awful is the traditional division of women into saints and whores. Let women be who they like and don't judge them by their sexual lives.

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makes women want to be commodities, to try to sell themselves and their bodies


It makes women want to earn money, and they realize selling sex is the best way.

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Why should it not be okay? Why should we not let people take whatever roles they feel like? Certainly, I detest the preassure present in today's patriarchal culture that makes women want to be commodities, to try to sell themselves and their bodies, but just as awful is the traditional division of women into saints and whores. Let women be who they like and don't judge them by their sexual lives.

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Buck said some wise words there, people should dress as they please, yes even rolemodels and public people. Horrible how some of you here let words like whore fly out of your mouths, would you call a man a whore because of how he dressed?

 
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