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Nimitz is offline Nimitz

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The Latest map.

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Giovanni Wine is offline Giovanni Wine
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Thanks for updating the map Nimitz, I'm going to color the last nations, so to make them recognizeble in the map as well.

also note that I updated the first page, but I don't know many of the changes yo guys did, so if you see some wrong statistics please tell me now.

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Ok here is a map with almost every country having its own color.

Britain is Orange
Denmark is White
Russia is Brown
Germany is light blue
France is light pink
Holland is dark pink
Switzerland is blue
Italy is Green
Austria is yellow
Ottoman is very light blue
Portugal is light Yellow
Spain is Black
USA is navy Blue
Mexico is dark Grey
UCA is light Green
Cuba is Sand
Venezuela is reddish-Brown
Brazil is Dark Green
Argentina is light purple
Liberia is dark Navy Blue
Ethiopia is Green-Blue
China is Dark Purple
Japan is Red
Siam is Sand

This is just to give everyone to know where which country is, cause normally we'll use the map Nimitz posted.

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To China: Haven't we rejected these terms before as outrageous?

To Italy: We would be more than happy to attend a peace summit. France is not the aggresor here, we never wanted war.

To Britain: Note how much of your commonwealth borders China. Note how China is so loudly anti-european. Note that China has had no qualms about attempting to begin insurrections, and attacking european lands in Asia at random. I would ask that you declare war on China.

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To Mexico:
Brazil welcomes you into the American Alliance. We will send surplus military equipment and advisors to you if you want them.

To Japan:
We appreciate your friendship. Brazil is open to Japanese troops if this war gets heated.

To Venezuela:
Good to hear.



Brazillian forces on high alert, most are veterans from previous war. Blockade of islands has been successful, no US miltary ship or submarine has touched any island. So far, war has been averted.

More troops being recruited and trained. THe Brazillian military training is one of the top five finest training insitutions in the world. Troops in Brazil training to perfection.

Airforce: tiny to small (3years)

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Britain to Ottomans:

we're afraid eastern India isn't currently for sale. But if it ever is, you'll be the first ones we tell.

to France:

As long as we are not attacked we will not attack anyone. We understand that the Chinese were wrong to attack you, but our involvement would only destabilize the situation further.


The British Air force has finished upgrading to small.

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To Britain: We have no interest in bothering you or your lands. Thank you for your understanding.

To Japan (secret): Stop the attack on the U.S. and attack France they will fall if you help us. It will be safer for you to nock out france first so that France does not attack your later with the usa. If you gain indochina it will be most valuable. You get western indochina and we get east. Help us nock out France and we will give you all the supplies you need against the U.S. battle.

To the world: we seek no quarrel with no one but France.

To Ottomans (secret):If you help us defeat France we will help you get the Crimean lands back, but we require nothing more then Mongolia. But first you must modernize so you can grow strong.

To Germany (secret): HERE IS YOUR CHANCE TO TEACH THE FRANCE A LESSON WE WILL SUPPORT YOU. Now is the best time to get them with little or now defense you can crush them and make them pay.

OOC: Why is Germany do nothing when all the French are gone out of there homeland. Germany would have attack France long ago. Germany is a powerhouse compare to France. Germany want to teach the world a lesson, especially there most hated nieghbors the French.

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Assuming that SKILORD isn't going to come back and reclaim the Germans, can I join in as them?

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ooc: We're not Germany's most hated neighbors. yes, in the real world at this time, but this is the game world, and I am on decent terms with the Emperor's Alliance. Make us pay? For what, Napoleon? This isn't Hitler we're talking about here, WWI was a conflict fought only because of alliances in Europe, alliances that don't exist in this game. Also note that Germany has an army and navy that is small in comparision to ours, their economy is equal, and they have no air force; not a powerhouse compared to us. You can't assume WWI situations, you must examine that actual in-game stats.

"We seek no quarrel with no one but France." I suppose I'm glad to hear this. You mean you have a quarrel with everyone except for us? Perhaps you have more than a quarrel with us.

To Britain: Very well, we understand your stance, but would love if you would sell us some of those nifty tanks of yours.

To China: Stop this, its silly. We've offered Indochina their choice, let them be. Let us be.

French troops dig trenches along the border in China. Chemical warfare is authorised if Chinese troops attempt to advance into our territory.

EDIT:
Air Force to be upgraded to Small in 3 years.
Defences continue to be built along our European borders, but the main conflict is in China.

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Britain to France:

Sure, we'll sell you tanks with the understanding that they are only to be used if you are being attacked, we do not condone their use as instruments of land grabbing. We aren't accusing you of that, just making things clear.

to China:

we aren't currently attacking you, but don't confuse that for us supproting you. We do not approve of your actions and still recommend you make peace with France.

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To: China(secret)
We are trying to get you Mongolia through peaceful means, and though we are a match for france we don't want to see this war escolate as it surely would if we were to get involved, also we are fairly modern as compared to you, but to help you in this war we will give you oil for free till the war ends as we have a huge surplus.

To: Russia
We would like to buy mongolia for china what would it take?

O.C.C.:
Giovanni could you handle this Russian diplomicy as there not around?

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The Austrain Amry has now opened up the long waited second front in Europe. Amored tank divisions supported by infantry units and artillery have begun to attack French foritifications on the Italian border. The fighting is feirce as the defenders are well prepared. Airplanes are being use to scout eneimy troop locations and direct fire of artillery peices.

To Italy:
We are hear to end the unjust treatment of CHina by the major powers of the world. We will do everything in our power to do this. We will not sign a peace treaty untill China does.

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To United States:
Your leaders seem to have gone into the pit that they once were when you had the entire world at war with you. We would think that the USA would want to spread freedom in the world, but instead you are like the rest of the powers of Europe, bent on taking over the world and futhering imperialism.

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OOC: We are around... We are very much around...

To Nimitz: Mongolia was fought for under Russian Blood, and will remain Russian while we are purely Russian!!!

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Russian projects:

Conscription begins! Gigantic in 2 years and Navy medium in 2 years. The Russian Air Force will be Tiny in 1.5 years, after the first bi plane is produced

Movements: 50% of the Russian Navy moves to the North Sea. Army divided as follows:

25%- Scandinavia
30% - Mongolia (after recent aggression)
45% - Russia

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Britain to Austria:

please don't do this. As we stated before, China is not worth such strife in Europe. We must stay united, lest WE become the ones that are colonized by others. Make amends with France while you still can. We are sure they will be willing to make peace now, but if you two spill much blood of eachother, then their will be too much emnity. Stop your agression now, or we will be forced to cut all ties with your nation.

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To: France
What if we are willing to pay for that land for china would you give it up and end the war?

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OOC: Nimitz, your latest map does not show Russian advancements into the Baltic Islands on the north of our shores. If you look into this thread you will see that we made the advancements quite some time ago...

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To Britain: Europe is growing restless. I suggest we sign a defensive alliance lest war break out in our regions. United we stand, divided we fall.

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OOC (again ): Could someone come up with a diagram showing who is at war with who and who is allied with whom a la Civ III? It's quite hard to keep up at the moment...

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top secret to AA: We're glad you guys have our backs, and are also glad to see our mexican friends join in the fray, as I see it now, Argentina has the free military, sweep in and take the American coasts, with their ports blocked, there ships will be eaisily destroyed, and we can launch an offensive. This time Cuba will not be so pacifistic towards the U.S.

To the United States: What continued imperialistic expansion?? Were you looking at an international mirror when you wrote that?? It is your nation which has expanded into the Carribean, via the virgin islands, the florida keys massacre, and the Aruban Death invasion perpetrated by the U.S.A..

To BENEDEFRA ((I think that's all the letters)): Cuba is asking for military or domestic aid from the BENEDEFRA alliance. Although Cuba has spoken harshly to some of your nations, our track record is clean as far as willingness to resolve things in a peaceful manner. We ask that you assist us in the very least by declaring neutrality in regards to the war in the carribean, we have seen the United States tuck it's tail between it's legs and disappear after previous unilateral conflicts, it will happen again.

To Spain: We were once taken away from you by the United States, we know you would like revenge. Aid us in our struggle for liberty against the oppressionist government of the United States, and you will have that revenge.

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What countries are open? Goober and I fixed our single-name problem, and will both be participating now.

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sorry gio, i just can't do it. Too busy to play this.

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Okay, so I assume I can join as Germany then?

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To Germany: Will we keep up our alliance?

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To Russia: Of course.

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Germany - Internal Affairs:

Kaiser Wilhelm has died of old age and been succeeded by his son, Dieter. Following his coronation, the German Reichstag has passed a law forbidding any organization to advocate revolution, in official statements or manifestos. This has resulted in the banning of a number of socialist organizations.

Germany - Diplomacy:

To China (secret): We have no intention whatsoever of going to war against France. Don't even ask again.

To France (secret): The chinese have asked us to go to war against you in their support. We ahve refused, and would like to offer you our miltiary support in your war agaisnt China in return for a share of the spoils - i.e. some Chinese land and reparations from the Chinese once we win. We are also willing to back you up against Japan later on if we can take some of their land.

To Russia: We will support you in your efforts to maintain control over Mongolia.

To Austria: As your allies, we must implore you to cease your war against France. We cannot support you in your defence of a nation which has violated numerous treaties, but we have no desire to fight you either.

To Great Britain: We propose that we sign a mutual security pact.

Germany - Projects:

The German government is taking action to expand the German economy to Booming. This should be complete within 2.5 years.

Military service has now ben extended from 2 to 3 years in Germany, allowing for substantial expansion of the army. The new troops should be ready and armed in 1 year.

Germany is also starting a program of naval expansion, which should increase the size of the navy to Very Large within 3 years.

Finally, a project has been started to establish a German air force to compete with various other powers. As the principles of the whole thing are well understood, Germany should have a Tiny air force within a year.

Germany - Statistics (1916):
Army: Very Large (upgrades to Huge in 1 year (2 days))
Navy: Medium (upgrades to Very Large in 3 years (6 days))
Air Force: None (upgrades to Tiny in 1 year (2 days))
Space Fleet: N/A
Government: Constitutional Monarchy
Economy: Prosperous (upgrades to Booming within 2.5 years (5 days))

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Russian Statistics:

Army: Gigantic in 2 years (4 days)
Navy: Medium in 2 years (4 days)
Air Force: Tiny in 1 year (2 days)
Economy: Currently Stable, will be growing in 1 1/2 years (2.5 days)

To Italy: Old friends, are we still together as one?

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OOC (again ): Could someone come up with a diagram showing who is at war with who and who is allied with whom a la Civ III? It's quite hard to keep up at the moment...


Look at the first Page, it's not a diagram, but there is the list of alliances and wars, with a special WW1 section to the bottom

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What countries are open? Goober and I fixed our single-name problem, and will both be participating now.


Wasn't it already you that was playing as Cuba?
Anyway, there is still open:
Japan
Mexico

Some other white nations consists in:
United Central America
Venezuela
Siam
Ethiopia
Liberia
Holland
Denmark
Spain
Portugal
Ireland

and that should be it.
If you want one of the white nations tell me and I'll give you their stats.

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White-Diplomacy: January 1916

To: China
From: Japan

We will not make peace with the USA until they won't withdraw their claims to the Philippines.

To: France
From: Japan
(secret)
We don't want a war with you, therefore we sign a NAP with your nation, we will not intervene in the war against you for China, but we ask for your support against the USA(/secret)

To: USA
From: Mexico

We declare war on you

To: USA
From: Venezuela

We declare war on you

To: UCA
From: Venezuela

We demand military passage through your country, will you give it to us my friend?

To: Venezuela
From: UCA

We will agree, if you'll provide us with Oil

To: UCA
From: Venezuela

We agree

To: Cuba
From: Spain

The US have attacked us, because you called them in your help, don't think you can fool us, plus we are worried that if we move our armies out of Spain we would be attacked by either France or Italy.

To: Cuba
From: BENEDEFRA

Our armed forces are currently in France, and even if we are close to your cause, we can not deply any force there, as we have to help our French ally to defend herself from the evil Austrians

To: France
From: Siam

We congratulate us for the elections you have held in Indochina.

To: USA
From: Japan

Once and for all, surrender the Philippines back to us, and we will have peace, so that you can concentrate on the Americas

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Events and attacks:
- Japanese Fleet attacks Hawaii
The Japanese Fleet and Air Force have attacked the American Naval Forces in the Hawaii, after a heavy fighting and bombing the Americans had to leave the islands, the Japanese than started to blockade the Hawaii in order to weaken the American defences there in order to succesfully invade them later.

- Mexican and Venezuelan Armies attack the USA
The Mexican and Venezuelan armies and navies have united in a perfectly coordinated attack, while the Mexicans started to push on their border with Texas, the Venezuelan armies attacked through Baja California in California, and succesfully took the city of San Diego, the Venezuelans have fortified there, and havemade the city their Headquarter in the US.
A third attack was made by an army lead by Zapata himself in southern Arizona, although once they reached the city of Phoenix they got pushed back by the American defenses there, and had to withdraw back to Tucson.

- BENEDEFRAn armies arrived in Southern France
The BENEDEFRAn armies have finally arrived in Provence in order to help their French ally against the Aurstrians, the BENEDEFRAn troops have been placed under the command of the French general in Provence.

- Revolts in Scandinavia
Hoping that due to the international conflicts the Russian army would have bot controled them, the Swede citizens in Malmo have revolted against their Russian oppressor, but the nearby Russian garrison have suppressed the revolt in a bloodshed.

- Cambodia and Vietnam choose for Independence
The French provinces in Indochina of Cambodia and Vietnam, have choosed for their independence, probably inspired by the nationalist sentiment of their Chinese neighbour.
The two countries have thanked their old mother country for the democratic votation they allowed them, and have agreed in still joining into an economical and military alliance with France, but they are also asking France to give back the Chinese land to China, in a similar manner they have returned them independence.
The Province of LAOS have instaed choosed to remain a French colony, although they are asking for a regional autonomy similar to the one that Britain have granted their colony.

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To: Ottoman
From: Italy
(secret)
As Germany and Russia seems to have got away from their isolationism, it would not be a wise move to attack Russia, maybe we can convince her to sell Crimea back to you, and we will buy it for you if you wish.
But we feel it's better to not backstab them, as this would put the Balkan Alliance and China, isolated against the whole world.
Also especially since the Mongolians are actually very close to the Siberian population of Russia, and as they use the same Russian alphabet, we think that the Mongolians are actually better off in Russian control rather than Chinese control (but of course the best for them would be independence)(/secret)

To: Russia
From: Italy

We stand behind our allies, as we always did.

To: China
From: Italy

We are stil awaiting your ambassador in Venice so to diplomaticaly discuss your issue with the French and Austrian one (with us being the mediator). If you refuse to send him here it would not make the Italian government happy

To: Germany
From: Italy

Should in this mess France attack Italy, we hope you would help us.

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Elections:
The Liberal Party, headed by the current Prime Minister, Giovanni Giolitti, won once againthe majority, and with the blessing of King Vittorio Emanuele III the Giolitti government have been confirmed for another term.
But also a new force have now entered the political scene, it is called the Fascist Party, lead by a young journalist named Benito Mussolini.

Liberal: 54%
Conservatives: 23%
Socialist: 18%
Fascist: 15%

The war-positions in the government are now as follow:
The Conservatives wish to declare war on France and help the Austrian ally, but they don't care about China, and they actually would like to take their territories in China as well.
The Fascist wish to switch side and attack the Austrians, ant take from them the Irrentia territories, wich means the Italian speaking regions of Istria, Dalmatia, Trentino and Friuli.
The Socialist instead wish to stay in peace, but they push the government to put pressure on the French so that they'll give up their claims in China.
At last the Liberals, they wish to stay in peace with both countries, and trade with both so to enrich Italy, although they also said that should the rest of the alliance take a position as well, they would side with the Alliance.

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Italian Projects
Research for Oil in Lybia: 3.5 years (7 days)
Enlarge Air Force (to Small): 2 years (4 days)
Enlarge Air Force (to Medium): 4 years (cumulative with above)

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Italian Stats
Name: Kingdom of Italy
Head of state: King Vittorio Emanuele III
Prime Minister: Giolitti
Government: Monarchy
Economy: Growing
Army: Large
Navy: Very Large
Air Force: Tiny
MPP: Emperor's League, Balkan Alliance

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Italian Positions toward countries:
Russia: Friendly (back to Friendly as they broke the Isolationism) (allied)
Germany: Friendly (back to Friendly as they broke the Isolationism) (allied)
Austria-Hungary: Friendly (allied)
Ottoman Empire: Best Friend (allied, trading)
UK: Normal
France: Friendly (trading)
Japan: Friendly (trading)
USA: Normal (down to normal as once again they have started a huge war in the Americas)
Brazil: Normal
Argentina: Normal
Cuba: Normal
China: Normal
Mexico: Normal

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