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Nov 1999
time: 22:25
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Originally posted by Willem
If you can exagerate by calling Mulroney a "commie" I can do the same by equating extreme right with fascism. And if you were to look closely enough, you can see some distinct similarities. |
The difference being I thought I was obviously joking. Sorry, I expect too much I guess. 
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Maybe if Alberta were to go along with Kyoto, you might find us Ontarions a much more sensible bunch. |
Yeah, that's right!
Maybe if we went along with what Ontario wants all the time we'd have our way. 
Tingkai's tried that logic before, it doesn't get you very far...
Just for a troll
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Trudeau claimed that MPs turn into instant nobodies the moment they were 50 yards from the House of Commons. Chretien learned everything he knows from Trudeau. He was Trudeau's justice minister. They wrote the flawed Charter together.
Canadians are just now beginning to realize that they are in deep trouble because they reelected the Liberals to Ottawa last November 2000. This latest 20% pay hike that the Liberals just took is only a drop in the bucket. They are only getting started. The lesions are about to continue. Stay tuned.
Canadians should have known because the list of Liberal shenanigans is long and peculiar. Liberals have little or no concern for taxpayers' money. The money is there to be taken or given to friends. Legally of course, through pay hikes or giveaways through HRDC or CIDA. They deny all conflict of interest in these giveaways. Prove it, they say.
1. Liberals promised to abolish Mulroney's GST and it was a major 1993 election promise. When Liberal MP John Nunziata voted against the 1996 budget for this reason, Mr. Chrétien kicked him out of the Liberal Caucus and excommunicated him from the Liberal Party. He was a living breathing example to the others -- what would happen to them if they showed the slightest independence.
2. They expropriated British Columbian property at Nanoose Bay, B.C.
3. They breached a signed contract in the Pearson Airport scandal. They denied compensation to the wronged parties. Then they were forced to pay $60-million in damages only taxpayers money.
4. They breached a signed purchase contract in the EH-101 helicopter scandal. They were then forced to pay $500 million in cancellation fees only taxpayers money.
5. They cut off the Somalia inquiry after it found uncomfortable evidence about the Liberals.
6. Protesters at APAC were pepper-sprayed by the RCMP and the Liberals covered the connection to the prime minister. The $5-million Inquiry sent Chretien an invitation to give evidence instead of a subpoena. He declined the invitation. Surprise. Surprise.
7. Liberals moved closure about 50 times in Parliament to cut off debate on their bills, including Sheila's Bill C-55.
8. Prime Minister Chretien showed his arrogance to Albertans when he appointed a senator-for-life from Alberta despite the fact that he knew Albertans had paid for an election to elect their own senators. The Governor General -- not the prime minister is supposed to appoint senators.
9. Prime Minister Jean Chretien was too busy skiing to attend the funeral of King Hussein of Jordan. Canada was the only member the Security Council or the G7 which did not send a Leader or Head of State to the funeral.
10. The party-disciplined Liberals defeated a Reform motion to use the notwithstanding clause to overturn a B.C. court decision declaring possession of child pornography legal. (143 to 129)
11. Liberals have an open-door policy to refugee claimants, spies and foreign terrorists. They also have strong connections with the huge immigration industry.
12. Both the arrogant socialist Liberals and the (NDP) B.C. government made a deal with the Nisga people without input from the citizens of B.C. Our politicians did not allow British Columbians to be heard.
13. Jean Chrétien gave his friends in Shawinigan: The Canoe Hall of Fame ($500,000); A tourism museum ($5 million); Several hotels ($3.8 million); A congress centre ($3 million); a fountain in the river - all complements of the Canadian taxpayer. More money than all the western provinces received. And no questions allowed or answers given.
14. Several shady people in Chretiens constituency received millions of dollars in taxpayers money to create jobs. There are so many unanswered questions about the shenanigans in Shawinigan that it would take an independent government inquiry to get to the bottom of this obvious conflict of interest. The Liberals refused to allow this inquiry. Surprise, surprise.
15. Liberals blamed the RCMP for building a private road into Chretien's cottage.
16. Liberals allow parliament to sit as seldom as possible (90 days in 2000). One way to cut down on the repetitive questions about Shawinigan.
17. Liberals refuse to talk about the flawed constitution.
18. They shred all incriminating papers.
19. They stall all scandals and cancel all inquiries.
20. They buy all elections with billions of taxpayers' money.
21. They buy all culture groups, have-not provinces, lobby groups and special-interest groups in Canada.
22. They vehemently represent all special-interest groups, minority groups, feminists, multicultural groups, aboriginals, deviate groups, the huge immigration industry, the vast CBC, the unions, the entertainment industry, the environmental movement, the nuclear industry, the monstrous federal bureaucracy and the Quebecois but have forgotten the average English-speaking Canadian.
23. They brought us the Airbus fiasco, which benefited Mulroney (He of the GST got more millions.).
24. They brought us unnecessary gun control for law abiding Canadians which benefited the criminals.
25. They brought us unemployment twice as high as the U.S.?
26. They brought us a 63-cent dollar.
27. They brought us forced bilingualism ($4 billion a year) and multiculturalism from coast to coast to coast.
28. They control 50% of the economy compared to government control of only 33% in the U.S.
29. They brought Canadians the highest taxes in the industrialized world.
30. They brought us a $600 billion national debt?
31. They ensured that all those appointed to the Supreme Court are not asked questions about their vested interested or hidden prejudices.
32. This ensured that these left wing appointees to the Supreme Court made left wing legal decisions -- pornography, homosexual rights, Indian land claims and Quebec separation.
33. They refused to use the notwithstanding clause while waiting for the leftist Supreme Court to put a leftist spin or cancel every law in the land. (58 laws since 1982)
34. They sent bombers to bomb civilians in Yugoslavia, all for human rights.
35. They sent our soldiers to Bosnia, Kosovo, Somalia, Rwanda (While a million people were being slaughtered), the Republic of Central Africa, Haiti and East Timor -- anywhere the United Nations pointed a finger.
36. They allowed all prisoners to vote. Guess who these criminals voted for?
The most amazing thing about all this; the Liberals got reelected for another four years. Go figure. This crowd makes the mafia look good. And now the Liberals are really going to teach Canadians a few lessons. |
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Asher
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Calgary, Alberta
Nov 1999
time: 22:25
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HOW CAN CANADIANS HATE BRIAN MULRONEY SO MUCH AND STILL LOVE JEAN CHRETIEN?
By Charles W. Moore
© 1998 Charles W. Moore
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Brian Mulroney's recent investiture in The Order of Canada gave legions of Mulroney-bashers, left-wing and right-wing alike, an excuse to unleash another barrage of bilious bellicosity against our former Prime Minister.
I remain puzzled, bewildered, and perplexed as to why Brian Mulroney is arguably the most universally loathed and reviled man in the country, while his successor (discounting Kim Campbell's eyeblink interregnum), Jean Chretien, records 60+ percent approval ratings month-in and month-out.
I never particularly warmed to Mulroney myself, but what in the name of Larry did the man ever do to make Canadians love to hate him with such passion, while conversely demonstrating a perverse willingness to forgive Chretien virtually anything?
Could it be the GST? In opposition and on the campaign trail, Chretien vowed repeatedly to abolish the unpopular tax, but embraced it once in power. He even broadened its scope in three of the four Atlantic Provinces with the Harmonized Sales Tax.
Maybe Free Trade and NAFTA? Opposition Leader Chretien denounced those too, but then enthusiastically adopted them as Prime Minister.
National Unity? Mulroney may have failed at persuading Quebec to sign the Constitution, but no one can say that he didn't mount a valiant effort. Chretien, on the other hand, sat out the Charlottetown Accord constitutional debate as Opposition Leader, presided over bringing the country to within a few thousand votes of disintegration in the 1996 Quebec referendum, and seems poised to provoke another with loose-lipped blabber.
Patronage? Mulroney was good to his friends, but Chretien has been no less so to his. Reality check: this is politics, folks.
Lying? Somebody please enlighten me as to what alleged untruths the "Lyin' Brian" epithet refers to. On the other hand, Jean Chretien is well-documented as a lifelong liar, from faking appendicitis to get out of school, to his imaginary friends in the homeless persons community and his phantom barroom buddies in hometown Shawinigan. Not to mention his aforementioned brazen flip-flops on the GST and Free Trade. John Nunziata, the Liberal backbencher booted out of caucus by Mr. Chretien for voting against a budget to protest the broken GST abolition promise, charged in the House of Commons that Chretien not only misled Canadians, but Liberal MPs as well--on multiple occasions.
Perhaps Canadians dislike Brian Mulroney because he is wealthy? But Jean Chretien is a rich man too.
Is it because Mr. Mulroney is a lawyer? Jean Chretien is likewise a lawyer. Can't be that.
Is it because Mulroney contracted to buy the Armed Forces helicopters younger than the men and women who fly them, while Chretien callously cancelled the contract for perceived political advantage, putting lives at risk? That would be cockeyed.
Is it Mulroney's supposed arrogance? In my recollection, Mr. Mulroney was always unfailingly polite and gracious to -- even solicitous of -- protesters. Chretien, by contrast, orders them pepper-sprayed and then jokes about it. He even throttled one demonstrator with his own hands. Never mind. Canadians still detest Mulroney and fawn on the self-styled "p'*** gars from Shawinigan."
It is a puzzlement.
Perhaps English-speaking Canada's baffling hatred of Mr. Mulroney and its infatuation with Mr. Chretien is indeed attributable to the latter's carefully calculated "man-of-the-people" persona vs. public perception of Mulroney as having upper-crust pretensions. As the late American philosopher Richard Weaver observed, "the adulation of the regular fellow, the political seduction of the common man," is a dominant theme in North American politics, nowhere more so than in Canada. Notwithstanding that Brian Mulroney has more convincing proletarian roots than Chretien, the latter is a master at playing the role, while Mulroney was always transparently honest about his personal aspirations.
Another Canadian who has felt the sting of populist disparagement, Conrad Black, observes: "It is... one of the well-springs of the pervasive Canadian spirit of envy that the success of a person implies the failure or exploitation of someone else."
"The destructive fixation of the envious English-Canadian mind required that the highest, happiest, most agile flyers be laid low," Mr. Black continues in his autobiography, 'A Life In Progress.' "A sadistic desire corroded by soul-destroying envy, to intimidate all those who might aspire to anything the slightest exceptional."
Or as Irving Layton defined the popular Canadian ethos: "Mediocrity is sanity, philistinism is Olympian serenity, and the spitefulness of the weak is moral indignation."
Somebody convince me that Messrs.. Black and Layton are mistaken.
I think I've got it. It was Mulroney's closet-full of Gucci shoes that turned the Canadian public against him. I trust that history will be more rational, kinder, and fairer. |
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Tingkai
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To find the Northwest Passage
Aug 2001
time: 13:25
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Originally posted by obiwan18
12. Both the arrogant socialist Liberals and the (NDP) B.C. government made a deal with the Nisga people without input from the citizens of B.C. Our politicians did not allow British Columbians to be heard.
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Governments throughout the world are elected to make these types of treaties. British Columbians were given as much input into the Nisga'a treaty as they were with any other inter-governmental agreement.
Disagreeing with the treaty is one thing, but moaning about not having input is crap.
And the bit about the NDP being arrogant is a joke. They were elected as the government and guess what, government make decisions. That's why we elect them.
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