21-01-2003 05:01									#121
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	21-01-2003 05:50									#122
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quote: Originally posted by obiwan18 I'm still deciding which I like best, prolly end up where the work is though.

Which means you probably won't end up in Victoria. That's why I left. Unless of course you work in government, with old people, or in tourism. At least that's how it was when I was there last.

	21-01-2003 05:58									#123
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quote: Originally posted by GP Could somebody synthesize the thread. Couldn't really tell what kitty was talking about. Just fired a couple torpedos against known targets.

Well judging from your Montana remark you don't have much to contribute anyway, so I wouldn't worry about it.

	21-01-2003 06:06									#124
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Who would want to join MOntana anyway ?? Seemed kinda dull there-- Wouldn't mind annexing California though -- then again-- too much crime-- could we just annex a few of their beaches ??

	21-01-2003 06:10									#125
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I don't know whether you recall a number of years ago some Caribbean island wanted to join Canada? I forget which one now. That would have been nice!

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quote: Originally posted by *End Is Forever* In fairness, US Nationals don't know what a liberal is either. The Canadian Liberal Party is not liberal.

And our conservatives aren't that conservative either. They're both fairly centrist. (Although it is to be admitted that the PC is farther right than the Liberals are left)

	21-01-2003 06:30									#127
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quote: Originally posted by GP Could somebody synthesize the thread. Couldn't really tell what kitty was talking about. Just fired a couple torpedos against known targets.

From right to left, canadian political spectrum is:

Canadian Alliance
Progressive Conservatives
Liberals
New Democratic Party

The Bloc Québecois is hard to classify on a right-left scale, but stands mainly for the separatists of Quebec. Right now the Liberals form the government and the CA is the official opposition.

Since the federal election of November 2000, the national support for the CA has fallen from 25% to 10.5%, the support for the PC has risen from 12.5% to 13.8%, the support for the Liberals has gone from 40% to 52% and the support for the NDP has gone from 8.5% to 13.5%

In other words, it is a broad shift of sympathies from rightist to leftist political parties.

	21-01-2003 06:31									#128
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Oh, and support for the BQ is down from 10.5% to 6.8%, which indicates the move away from separatism tha's been seen in Quebec.

	21-01-2003 06:36									#129
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quote: I don't know whether you recall a number of years ago some Caribbean island wanted to join Canada? I forget which one now. That would have been nice!

I believe you're referring to the Turks & Caicos Islands, who wanted to enter into a Puerto Rico style dependency with us... I think. We said no, for whatever reason.

It would've been nice to have a close, warm vacation spot that would share our currency. Ah, well...

	21-01-2003 06:48									#130
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quote: In other words, it is a broad shift of sympathies from rightist to leftist political parties.

Only in Canada will the repeated public-office screwups and scandals result in the population wanting more government involvement in their daily lives...

	21-01-2003 06:54									#131
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Maybe the Canadian public sees the right as whining constantly about minor matters, while at the same time standing for the wrong policies?

Stop ranting about how stupid Canadian voters are, and start asking yourself if maybe the majority of them just plain don't agree with you.

	21-01-2003 06:56									#132
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quote: Originally posted by Frogger Maybe the Canadian public sees the right as whining constantly about minor matters, while at the same time standing for the wrong policies?

Oh please, everyone knows the opposition's purpose is to whine.

And if they don't, maybe they're even stupider than I first though.

quote: Stop ranting about how stupid Canadian voters are, and start asking yourself if maybe the majority of them just plain don't agree with you.

But hey -- aren't those related?

I mean, for Christ sake...

This government "loses" a billion dollars, they totally **** up the gun registry, they are constantly being accused of using their power to push personal interest for friends in their ridings, etc. -- and their approval ratings increase!

There is nothing to describe that other than pure stupidity on the part of Canadian voters.

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Hah. When I posted that I got the message:

quote: Populus vult decipi. [The people like to be deceived.]

	21-01-2003 06:58									#134
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Sure there is. The Canadian public thinks about the CA actually forming the government and starts shitting its pants.

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quote: Originally posted by Frogger Sure there is. The Canadian public thinks about the CA actually forming the government and starts shitting its pants.

And what's so bad about the PC?

I'm glad the CA's ratings are going down, they may bite the dust and start defecting to the PCs like they should be in the first place...

I just want the ****ing liberals out of office. Even the NDP for a term would be nice, the Liberals run a ****ing dictatorship right now and it's unacceptable...

	21-01-2003 07:03									#136
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52% of Canadians think it's acceptable. And ever since Chrétien's resignation announcement, I haven't minded the Libs too much either...

	21-01-2003 07:04									#137
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quote: Originally posted by Asher And what's so bad about the PC?

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Is that any worse than what the Liberals currently have going for them?

	21-01-2003 07:05									#139
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Who cares what that commie bastard did in the past under the PC banner?

If the voters in Canada weren't so stupid they'd realize he ****ed things up because he was left wing.

Hell, he's from Quebec, that's bad enough.

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quote: Originally posted by DinoDoc Is that any worse than what the Liberals currently have going for them?

Yes, actually. You don't understand the level of hatred Mulroney brings up in this country.

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quote: Originally posted by Frogger Yes, actually. You don't understand the level of hatred Mulroney brings up in this country.

Melodramatic statement of the day.

He introduced the GST, which the Liberals said they'd eliminate as an election promise...decade later it's still here. They may as well have passed it themselves, the bastards.

If you think the hatred Mulroney has in this country is a lot, mention Trudeau in Calgary.

	21-01-2003 07:09									#142
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He almost killed the Tories off entirely. It may not be fair to equate Mulroney with today's PC, but that's what Canada still does. The Mulroney era is looked upon as a low point, and people are still bitter.

	21-01-2003 07:10									#143
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quote: Originally posted by Asher Melodramatic statement of the day. He introduced the GST, which the Liberals said they'd eliminate as an election promise...decade later it's still here. They may as well have passed it themselves, the bastards. If you think the hatred Mulroney has in this country is a lot, mention Trudeau in Calgary.

Calgary isn't the country. Mulroney's popularity ratings were hovering around 10 or 15% when he finally left. That's unprecedented.

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quote: Originally posted by Frogger Calgary isn't the country. Mulroney's popularity ratings were hovering around 10 or 15% when he finally left. That's unprecedented.

It doesn't matter if it's not the country, but the hatred this province and city has for Trudeau is way more than what Canada feels for Mulroney...

It's high time we had a fiscally responsible Albertan as Prime Minister.

I bet it'll be hard for people to go back to the Liberals after a real prime minister...

I think I'd make a good prime minister.

	21-01-2003 07:15									#145
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Hah. Then why don't you propose one the rest of the country would find palatable?

And I don't doubt that Trudeau evokes hatred from Albertans. Bunch of anti-French bastards....

I had some neighbours from Alberta once. You should hear them talk about the "frogs"...

	21-01-2003 07:16									#146
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quote: Originally posted by Frogger Hah. Then why don't you propose one the rest of the country would find palatable?

quote: And I don't doubt that Trudeau evokes hatred from Albertans. Bunch of anti-French bastards.... I had some neighbours from Alberta once. You should hear them talk about the "frogs"...

Did they have a lot of money?

	21-01-2003 07:18									#147
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quote: Originally posted by Asher

Did you read my condition?

Hmm. A bisexual Albertan conservative joint Canadian-American citizen. Yup. You'd manage to piss off every single voting block in the country.

	21-01-2003 07:20									#148
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quote: Originally posted by Frogger Did you read my condition? Hmm. A bisexual Albertan conservative joint Canadian-American citizen. Yup. You'd manage to piss off every single voting block in the country.

Everyone loves an underdog...

	21-01-2003 07:28									#149
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quote: Originally posted by Frogger Did you read my condition? Hmm. A bisexual Albertan conservative joint Canadian-American citizen. Yup. You'd manage to piss off every single voting block in the country.

HEY! Damn it. You left out MSFT-apologist.

	21-01-2003 07:31									#150
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quote: Originally posted by Asher There is nothing to describe that other than pure stupidity on the part of Canadian voters.

I'd say it has more to do with a lack of a viable alternative.