01-03-2003 05:01									#361
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I was hoping for something long, pedantic and tiresome.

	01-03-2003 05:58									#362
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quote: Originally posted by SuperSneak I was hoping for something long, pedantic and tiresome.

Well, you gave us one out of the three.

Just, whatever you do, I beg you, don't write a decade - for example, the nineteen eighties - as the 1980's. It's not a possessive case. It's written as the 1980s. The apostrophe-inserted-into-the-decade-description folly is from the same school of aberration as the Green Grocers' Apostrophe - bean's, potato's, et al.

	01-03-2003 06:06									#363
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quote: Originally posted by SuperSneak I think I meant contraction, actually. I seem to have an aversion to placing my apostrophe properly when using them. It's shameful, really.

It is. Doctor Trickledown got it pretty right.

quote: Hey...do you guys have Bisquick in Oz? The wife made a lovely casserole using it last night--quite versatile stuff--great for leftovers.

Bisquick? What is it? A flavoured powder to which you add water to produce a gravy? If so, we have something called Gravox - a beef-flavoured powder to which you add water to produce gravy. Hideous stuff. Bland and chemical-ridden. What's wrong with some reduced veal or beef stock and, if necessary, some beurre manié?

	01-03-2003 06:13									#364
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Last night's 5-way game produced something out of the ordinary for our little group! War in the B.C. era!

Trev, exploring, ventured onto Hydey's land. Hydey offered a peace treaty. Trev declined with the interesting justification that he had no warlike intentions but a peace treaty was restrictive. Hydey promptly went him!

As last night's session came to a close, Trev announced that he'd found Hydey's capital city and that tonight's session would be very interesting.

BTW, lads, it has taken us two lengthy sessions to limp to somewhere around 200 BC. It's getting ridiculous. I propose we convert the game into simul mode and anyone fighting a war can revert to turn order.

	01-03-2003 06:48									#365
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I second that.

	01-03-2003 07:02									#366
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Do we have a thirder? If so, we have a majority.

	01-03-2003 07:37									#367
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No, it started as turn based and should stay turn based.
My turns are by far the quickest all game. So wtf?

	01-03-2003 07:43									#368
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quote: Originally posted by finbar Do we have a thirder? If so, we have a majority.

You can't ask for a vote half way through a process. The playing field must remain even throughout the game. Besides, I feel that some of the players are just playing too slowly, especially Horse. Just speed up your turns. Mine are by far the quickest.

	01-03-2003 08:06									#370
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I know I'm not the only one thinking that Horses turns take forever and then there was that ridiculous episode when he deliberately held up play and took 30 mins to negotiate a border with two civs...

clippity clop...

	01-03-2003 08:07									#371
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quote: Originally posted by deity You can't ask for a vote half way through a process. The playing field must remain even throughout the game.

Of course a vote can be asked for halfway through a process. A vote can be asked for at any stage. And simul - as against turn-based - has absolutely no impact on the "playing field". It's a purely administrative matter.

Your oppposition to simul is well known. You think it gets in the way in a war situation. Thus I assumed a negative response on your part. But your justification doesn't stand up. Sorry.

	01-03-2003 08:14									#372
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I don't enjoy simul. I started a turn based game and wish to continue it as a turn based game. with simul it becomes an uneven field as far as enjoyment is concerned and it does effect gameplay.

The problem is we have a few players who are taking way too long with their turns. This problem can be solved by those players, particularly Horse, speeding up their turns. Simul is a cop out solution.

I think my game enjoyment is an important factor and I'm the one taking the least time during my turns.

	01-03-2003 08:18									#373
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How about a timer?

	01-03-2003 08:23									#374
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Don't forget there are all those bugs with simul when strange things happen, loss of supported units, builds and extra shields every time you restart.

It was also proven a fallacy that it is any quicker BTW.

Because all the microing happens during the turn and everyone is moving at once it does slow down the overall transmission of data with some players simply freezing for ages. It's a total pain.

A well run turn based game can pretty much keep pace with a simul game. That's why most groups abandoned simul and went back to turns.

	01-03-2003 08:25									#375
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I'm not bothered about war though - turn order is fine for that.

	01-03-2003 08:36									#376
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quote: Originally posted by deity How about a timer?

Yes, I've always liked the timer. Another good option.

	01-03-2003 08:52									#377
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Deity - this page of this thread is a blatant attempt on your part to increase your post count. Now stop it!

	01-03-2003 09:07									#378
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2 min?

	01-03-2003 09:08									#379
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3 min?

	01-03-2003 09:09									#380
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1 min?

	01-03-2003 11:25									#382
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If its a timer then Trev and Hydey should have the final say on time. They are at war. I will fit in with whatever is agreed.

	01-03-2003 11:40									#383
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You take longer at peace than they do at war

	01-03-2003 11:44									#384
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I guess it's all those border agrements...

	01-03-2003 15:17									#385
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Timing ina game with mature, experienced players is unnecessary as each person should move as rapidly as possible. I suppose if I eliminated Hydey that things would ssppeeeedd uuppp. I better give consideration to that I suppose

	01-03-2003 15:30									#386
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quote: Originally posted by trev I suppose if I eliminated Hydey that things would ssppeeeedd uuppp. I better give consideration to that I suppose

	01-03-2003 15:33									#387
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quote: Originally posted by trev Timing ina game with mature, experienced players is unnecessary as each person should move as rapidly as possible.

Yes, but it isn't happening. There's no question about the "experienced" part of your statement. The other adjective is sometimes sadly lacking.

	01-03-2003 15:36									#388
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Maybe it should have been Horse who started a war with me, His elimination could not fail to speed a game up.

When I finally get to meet his small miserable empire I will give that consideration too

	01-03-2003 15:42									#389
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LMAO!

	01-03-2003 18:26									#390
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quote: Originally posted by trev Timing ina game with mature, experienced players is unnecessary as each person should move as rapidly as possible.

But what about in this game?

I see Finbar beat me to it.