27-01-2003 12:04									#1
	China launches new stealth fighter project Got spare money?

Well, I figure there is a good chance this will be deleted by Ming as spam, but if you get to see it and are interested to follow a thread on the subject at CivFanatics that he can't delete.

http://www.janes.com/defense/air_fo...21210_2_n.shtml

The Chinese fighter being stealthy beats any fighter in the world that isn't basicly. So only the full stealth US fighters are superior and the new French fighter at least equal, being stealthy.

Also, speculation is it will have vectored thust. Any Euro fighters other than Harrier have that?

Well, this thread has no more right to exist than my thread on freezing Florida citrus so I guess I'll bid it fair journey to deletion.

Ming deletes threads that aren't spam instead of just closing them because he doesn't want to have to explain why he closed them. Gets rid of the evidence that he uses his mod powers for personal use.

Anyway, he can't delete the thread at CivFanatics, so check it out.

	27-01-2003 12:11									#2
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That fighter project sure is stealthy. When I go to that page, it sneaks away and I get " Sorry, we can't find that page. "

	27-01-2003 12:13									#3
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Not even the F-117 is a fighter by any stretch of the imagination.

	27-01-2003 12:17									#4
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But the F-22 can be.

	27-01-2003 12:27									#5
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http://www.janes.com/aerospace/mili...21210 2 n.shtml

*crosses fingers*

nope, try this:

http://www.janes.com/defence/air_fo...21210_2_n.shtml

	27-01-2003 12:34									#6
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WooHoo, that worked!

It's always a big event when I get a link to work.

	27-01-2003 12:45									#7
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quote: Originally posted by Lancer Well, I figure there is a good chance this will be deleted by Ming as spam, but if you get to see it and are interested to follow a thread on the subject at CivFanatics that he can't delete.

That's a classic example of whining

	27-01-2003 13:17									#8
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delete it Ming. I dare you. Ming doesn't have the sack to delete this thread

	27-01-2003 13:20									#9
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Really Ming? So a simple statement of fact counts too. I figured as much.

Regarding the topic, I read somewhere that some of the tech for the new Chinese fighter came from the stealth fighter downed by Serbia.

	27-01-2003 13:26									#10
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quote: Originally posted by Lancer Really Ming? So a simple statement of fact counts too. I figured as much.

Maybe if you had stated a fact... instead, you just stated an incorrect opinion. Your "real" threads don't get deleted. Only your spammy threads. So yes, a pure whine, but to be expected from you.

	27-01-2003 13:34									#11
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Ahh, another moral judgement from the Ubermod...not only does he keep the place free of spam but he trickles down his nasty personal opinions from on high...what a guy. What's to be expected from you Ming? Drunken parties, closed threads and banned posters? Save your moral judgements eh? People who live in glass houses...

I'm going to find the link on the Serbian sale of US stealth secrets...

	27-01-2003 13:35									#12
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quote: Originally posted by Asher But the F-22 can be.

By the time the F-22 comes out, I expect advances in technology will enable detection of "stealth" aircrafts.

	27-01-2003 13:36									#13
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OK ming, now you can close this thread after Lancer's last comment

	27-01-2003 13:42									#14
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UR, are you refering to the multi directional radar? I've heard about it but don't understand it. Do you have any idea how it works? How do you see something that absorbs radar?

	27-01-2003 13:42									#15
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Well Lancer... Dis is right. If this thread is just a lame attempt on your part to continue this whining... then it will be deleted, and you wil be suspended.

You are the one that started the thread with your childish whine. If you hadn't, I would never even have posted in your serious thread. But no, you are the one that started it... So don't try to take the moral high ground. Everybody knows the truth just by looking at your first post.

So if you wish to continue your baiting and childish behaviour... feel free. You will get suspended, and your thread will be closed. And not because it's spam, but because of your behaviour in it.

Have a nice day.

	27-01-2003 13:47									#16
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http://news1.beograd.com/english/ar...sell_secrets_of

God only knows if that will work.

	27-01-2003 13:50									#17
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Ya right, nice day to you too.

Nope, link didn't work. Anyway it's in the Chicago Tribune.

	27-01-2003 14:31									#18
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Lancer,

There's an article here on one of the anti-stealth systems. Another one here.

	27-01-2003 14:44									#19
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Cell phone towers. Bloody smart Brits.

Thanks for the links UR.

	27-01-2003 15:44									#20
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What's wrong with Lancer? Did he not get invited to Ming's party?

	27-01-2003 15:50									#21
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Timex, anything to add on topic? I kinda want to see if I can have a thread die of old age.

	27-01-2003 16:18									#22
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Ming is a bastard?




Seriously, don't be worried about this plane. I'm sure by then we'll have cloaking devices and photon torpedoes, rendering this plane powerless

	27-01-2003 16:27									#23
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I totally agree with your opinion.

	28-01-2003 07:29									#24
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Read 'One Chop Shop' too.

Then it appears that either the stealth is already flying or China is ground zero for the alien invasion.

Hail Mary, full of grace, may the link work:

http://www.beijingscene.com/v07i002/inshort.html

So, if the Chinese stealth is flying NOW instead of ten years down the line, are you at all concerned? The story says it will go into service in 2005, just around the corner...

Could stealth be Chinas way of getting to Tiawan? If they can knock out Tiawans missile defenses and take out their fighters then can the Chinese successfully invade?

	28-01-2003 08:00									#25
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No - they still don't have the naval assets to invade.

	28-01-2003 10:32									#26
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They said first flight will be around 2010. That means active duty around 2015/16. The F-22 should enter service 2004/5

	28-01-2003 15:03									#27
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quote: Originally posted by David Floyd No - they still don't have the naval assets to invade.

Ah yes, says the omniscient Mr Floyd.

	28-01-2003 15:07									#28
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Does China even have the facilities to build modern missile destroyers and cruisers?

	28-01-2003 15:09									#29
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1. What for?
2. Who knows?
3. Russian hardware is excellent value.

	28-01-2003 15:14									#30
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quote: 1. What for?

To project Chinese power, something that isn't possible right now.

quote: 2. Who knows?

Military experts, who say no.

quote: 3. Russian hardware is excellent value.

True, but Russian equipment can't compete with the top-of-the-line ships fielded by the US (and to a lesser extent) Taiwan and Japan.