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What would be your vote?
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| Labour (left) |
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4 |
13.79% |
| Likkud (right) |
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3 |
10.34% |
| Meretz (social democrat left) |
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2 |
6.90% |
| Shinui (liberal center) |
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7 |
24.14% |
| Shas (ultra orthodox sephardi) |
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0 |
0% |
| One Nation (worker's union, commie) |
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1 |
3.45% |
| National Arab - Communist |
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1 |
3.45% |
| Arab nationalist parties |
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1 |
3.45% |
| arab religious aprties |
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1 |
3.45% |
| Green Leaf (legalization of marijuana + green) |
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2 |
6.90% |
| Green party |
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1 |
3.45% |
| Another Israel (teens wanting to change the world) |
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0 |
0% |
| National Union (ultra right wing) |
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2 |
6.90% |
| Freedom (ultra ultra right wing) |
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2 |
6.90% |
| Tzomet (right. army thing) |
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0 |
0% |
| Israel in Alyah (rights for immigrants) |
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0 |
0% |
| Citizen and State (rights for non-jewish immigrants) |
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0 |
0% |
| National Religious party (right, religious, not orthodox) |
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0 |
0% |
| Judaism of Torah (ultra orthodox - ahkenazi) |
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1 |
3.45% |
| Love of Israel (ultra orthodox - sephardi) |
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0 |
0% |
| Center (some loser guy from likkud) |
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0 |
0% |
| White Ballot (abstain) |
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0 |
0% |
| I wanna do shopping instead |
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1 |
3.45% |
| Banana |
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0 |
0% |
| Total: |
29 voters |
100% |
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MACEDONIA - It's the name of the sovereign country to the north of Greece
Apr 2000 time: 07:25
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Hmm, sorry for posting so late, I worked in the elections was back home at 2AM, only to wake up around 6AM to go and probably fail the test in C programming.  
And this just in: "Labor wins a landslide victory.... In Quiryat Tivon" 
I am actually quite optimistic about the following government, if it holds water.
We have
Likud:37
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Shinui:15 = 52
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IsraelBaAliya:2 = 54
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Mafdal:5 = 59
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Am Ehad:4 = 63
Apparently this is the only workable coalition, at present stage. That is, unless labor loses ALL credibility whatsoever.
Issues for the next government:
1)Security:
After the war on Iraq, the Bush administration will surely take up with our issue. The government above is perfectly flexible to stay in line with the Americans, and that's just what Israel needs, geo-politically. IMO, however, we shouldn't be so openly hostile towards mainland europe. The building of the wall should continue with greater speed. And Sharon should repeat that he's waiting for palestinians to lay down their weapons, and move towards peace. It is in Sharon's personal best interest too, as he is not running for re-election next elections.
2)Economy: We're currently knee-deep in ****, despite the fact that it is perfectly explainable, considering the death of dot-com.
There are two big problems: gaps between the rich and the poor, and the recession. However there are good signs. The 3 main Israeli software exporters are actually doing very well, keeping posting profits above analysts' expectations. So do the pharmaceuticals. Intel keeps exporting at more than a billion USD, but generally the electronics are in a bit of trouble. This is hardly the fault of the Israeli government, though.
What needs to be done is the improvement of infrastructure, by dramatically increasing spending in that area. We also need to crack down on illegal foreign workers, and make an effort to employ Israeli workforce in that area. There are ways, and if the laws were abided ( foreign workers should be paid minimum wages, but THEY'RE NOT! ) things would be well, esp. since there is no competition from the outside on contruction. . I would also propose that courses would open with these types of jobs in mind. training high quality construction workers, and their sallaries to be suplimented above the minimum wage, While cutting down on welfare for the unemployed. If there are jobs, and they pay well, I don't think it is wise from ANY point of view to pay people despite them staying at home.
Peace would be too harmful, as well.
The gaps between the rich and the poor: Israel should cancel caps on social security payments, and fight the trend of people establishing bogus companies, so that they can avoid paying social security. I don't really know how.
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Harel
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Ramat Hasharon, Israel
May 1999 time: 05:25
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Voting for Bibi is only slightly more iditoic then voting for Sharon. My god, is the world surrounded by idiots? I still can't believe someone re-elected that moron.
For some strange reasons I'm not surprised the only Israeli here who has absloutly no understanding of grammer is a likudnik.
Have a nice day.
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Eli
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Israel
Jul 2000 time: 07:25
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quote: Originally posted by Harel
Voting for Bibi is only slightly more iditoic then voting for Sharon. My god, is the world surrounded by idiots? I still can't believe someone re-elected that moron.
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The usual. It's the bad or the even worse.
Yes, Sharon sucked, but the only true alternative was an Osloid who wants to do the Oslo mistakes on an even larger scale.
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Eli
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Israel
Jul 2000 time: 07:25
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Mafdal are religious but not Haredim. They are also Zionist, they work and they serve in the army, all unlike the Haredim.
Most of their voters are settlers.
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Eli
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Israel
Jul 2000 time: 07:25
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Yitzhak Levi : "The goverment baselines are a red line we cannot support. The Mafdal will not sit in a goverment that will found a Palestinian state".
Elections in two months?
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Eli
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Israel
Jul 2000 time: 07:25
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Yitzhak Levi : "The goverment baselines are a red line we cannot support. The Mafdal will not sit in a goverment that will found a Palestinian state".
Elections in two months?
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Eli
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Israel
Jul 2000 time: 07:25
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Ok, after some thought, here's my analysis.
Assume a scale of -5 till +5, where - is the left and + is the right. 
Sharon has made some serious promises to the Bush Administration and is dependant on their money(in addition to the regular aid). He also softened in the last couple years.
So Sharon cannot go to the right farther than +1.
To the left, Sharon can offer a lot to them, but not farther than -1, he is Sharon after all.
The problem is that the Labor is now controlled by the almost radical left. Mitzna is somewhere between -3 and -2.
So for them to join either Sharon has to break even harder to the left, which is not going to happen, or Mitzna and his friend a bit to the center. Possible, but not unlikely.
On the right, the only one who can join is Shas, being a political whore.
+1 is too moderate for the Mafdal and the National Union so they wont join either.
Conclusion :
Sharon is ****ed.
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FUKCOV - Former United Kingdom Colony of Virginia
Dec 2000 time: 00:25
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quote: Originally posted by Eli
Ok, after some thought, here's my analysis.
Assume a scale of -5 till +5, where - is the left and + is the right. 
Sharon has made some serious promises to the Bush Administration and is dependant on their money(in addition to the regular aid). He also softened in the last couple years.
So Sharon cannot go to the right farther than +1.
To the left, Sharon can offer a lot to them, but not farther than -1, he is Sharon after all.
The problem is that the Labor is now controlled by the almost radical left. Mitzna is somewhere between -3 and -2.
So for them to join either Sharon has to break even harder to the left, which is not going to happen, or Mitzna and his friend a bit to the center. Possible, but not unlikely.
On the right, the only one who can join is Shas, being a political whore.
+1 is too moderate for the Mafdal and the National Union so they wont join either.
Conclusion :
Sharon is ****ed. |
But Fuad would be delighted with -1 - as would Lapid, and very importantly, George W. Bush.
So the theme will be "the temptation of Labor"
Add US troops on the ground in Iraq into the mix, with US pushing Sharon left, and pushing Mitzna toward a coalition.
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Eli
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Israel
Jul 2000 time: 07:25
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After counting the soldiers' votes the Likud increased to 38 and the Mafdal to 6. Am Echad and Hadash both fallen from 4 to 3.
In total, the right wing block increased from 67 to 69.
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Harel
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Ramat Hasharon, Israel
May 1999 time: 05:25
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quote: Originally posted by Eli
The usual. It's the bad or the even worse.
Yes, Sharon sucked, but the only true alternative was an Osloid who wants to do the Oslo mistakes on an even larger scale. |
Oslo was not a mistake. The mistake was to elect right-wing morons that only hindered the procceeding at every foot-steps. If Barak remained at power until today he would have managed to reach an agreement with Arafat and all would be well now. But no, we had to force his hand to go to election, and then our moronic people elected Sharon, crushing any hope for salvation.
One reeps what one sews.
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