01-02-2003 04:52									#1
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Well --- this one might not be winnable

All Ais have been augmented to have two pairs of settlers to start and are all allied with each other.

Rules:


Reputation must remain Spotless throughout

Win by conquest - the bloodlust flag has NOT been set - the AI can build a spaceship

Only one change of government allowed and that is Despotism to Democracy

We set this up via a scenario so the tech tree is open

Oh - its a Giga map 180x180, small land mass, archipelago

Having set this up - we would rather not start so the post is the 4000BC start - please post that you have picked it up and run with it guys

Good Luck

The SGs - feeling sadistic and masochistic also well sloshed

Attachment: mi_b4000.sav
This has been downloaded 23 time(s).

	01-02-2003 05:22									#2
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Would you be so good as to post which actions will maintain a spotless rep?

e.g.

- stealing tech, yes/no?
- cancelling alliance, yes/no?
- taking cash to join a war, yes/no?

I wouldn't want to accidentally spoil a spotless rep, were I to join...

	01-02-2003 05:38									#3
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Sounds fun. Count me in SGs.

Looks like a total war scenario.



Despotism- Democracy?

	01-02-2003 05:51									#4
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I agree with the jedi - stick me in the rotation too

	01-02-2003 15:54									#5
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Keep signing up and we'll publish a play order shortly

Reputation Hits:

1) Cancel an alliance or steal from an ally.
2) Breaking a peace treaty or stealing tech when at peace.
3) Breaking a cease fire agreement. I think you are OK stealing science during a cease fire … can somebody confirm this one?
4) Spy with a nuke in her knickers … does this count as a hit even if at war?


No Reputation Hits:

1) Bribing a city and paying double.
2) Stealing/Capturing/Bribing from a Civ you've never met or with whom you have no agreement.

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	01-02-2003 16:28									#6
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Wow that is a mean mean game.......did you have a bad day or something SG?

	01-02-2003 16:36									#7
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Just wanted a scenario to test the Sticky Mouse Academy now its so experienced

DrSpike ... please feel free to join us You will be very welcome.

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Last edited by Scouse Gits on 01-02-2003 at 16:43

	01-02-2003 16:38									#8
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Is it a succession or everyone play and compare?

	01-02-2003 19:36									#9
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quote: Originally posted by Scouse Gits Having set this up - we would rather not start so the post is the 4000BC start - please post that you have picked it up and run with it guys

considering there have been a whole succession of Sticky Mouse Succession games, and the quote listed above, I'd venture that this is a succession thread.

I'm sure no one would mind though if you played it on your own as a comparison game

	01-02-2003 20:16									#10
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quote: Originally posted by DrSpike Is it a succession or everyone play and compare?

Succession game ... everyone is able to play solo and compare notes if they prefer.

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	03-02-2003 01:46									#11
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Count me in
(even if no Rodentian monarchy permitted )

	03-02-2003 01:57									#12
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Is there room for a Hydey here?

If so count me in

	03-02-2003 02:29									#13
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quote: Originally posted by La Fayette Count me in (even if no Rodentian monarchy permitted )

An Rodentian Democracy is so much more elegant

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Welcome to all who have signed up. Let's get started!

Order of Play
Obiwan18
La Fayette
SCG
SG[1]
STYOM
SG(2)
Hydey
DrSpike
Straybow
-Jrabbit


1st Round 15 turns

Good Luck!

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	03-02-2003 04:07									#14
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I was writing a post chastising you for leaving me out SG, but I see I didn't actually post to say count me in after my query above.

If there's room still whack me on the end.

	03-02-2003 04:48									#15
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DrSpike you're in

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	03-02-2003 04:52									#16
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Nice one.

	03-02-2003 06:09									#17
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Scuse Gits,
You trust a n00b to lead you off?

I'm honored!

Try to play today or tomorrow.

	03-02-2003 08:42									#18
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Well, noob or not ... I would venture to say the first 15 turns will probably be the easiest! From where I'm sitting the game will get hard when we get close to the city limit for first unhappiness in Despotism. And on a gigamap, we're not likely to encounter anyone soon

That said, those first few cities probably should be placed pretty carefully... they may be all we can manage for a while. And the tech path will probably look different, without the usual beeline for Monarchy.

	03-02-2003 08:57									#19
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Refresh my memory: celebration under Despotism collects resources as Monarchy, right? Happiness techs will be at a premium.

I dunno if I've got the time— haven't even finished my round of No Science.

	03-02-2003 09:19									#20
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quote: Originally posted by Straybow Refresh my memory: celebration under Despotism collects resources as Monarchy, right? Happiness techs will be at a premium.

Yes, celebrating cities basically don't have the -1's on all workers producing >2 of anything. And I would venture trade is going to be huge in the early game (pre democracy) as well (currency is a happiness tech too )

	03-02-2003 14:17									#21
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Obiwan18 Go get 'em! We were all n00bs once

STYOM The science goals are slightly different. Lean and mean research to Democracy is probably the best route - avoiding the techs off the Demo path.

SCG Trade will be important throughout the game. The good thing is that Trade is a requirement for Demo.

Straybow Have included you! Any decent Democracy needs a canal specialist

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	03-02-2003 14:50									#22
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Yeah beeline for demo, and on the way we'll pick up most of the techs we need early anyway. We can trade for pottery maybe.......otherwise we'll have to step off the path, because HG is going to be even more useful than usual in this game.

Early triremes might also be necessary with this map setting.

	03-02-2003 16:02									#23
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Yeah...Pottery and Map Making are important. The game is a scenario so the tech choices are never restricted.

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	03-02-2003 18:14									#24
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Although not playing, I am wondering wonders you guys are going to target?

GL? HG? Mikes?

Interesting this game is going to be...

	03-02-2003 18:24									#25
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I'm deeply impressed - I'm sure you will win. But I'm also sure that it will be a long long way.

	03-02-2003 18:42									#26
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Consarnitall, how could I miss this one!!!!!!
But that's what happens when a new succession gets posted on the weekend...

...and I was just hoping to get my certificate of completion from the Academy. (sigh)

Looks like a blast. Guess I'll have to live vicariously through your conquest. Enjoy!

	03-02-2003 20:18									#27
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quote: Originally posted by atomant Although not playing, I am wondering wonders you guys are going to target? GL? HG? Mikes?

Every happy wonder we can get our hands on, I'm thinking. HG for sure - we ought to be able to get that, because we won't be feeling the no monarchy pinch really early on. Mikes if we can get it, of course.

GL... mmm, I don't think so. Our research costs will go through the roof if GL gives us unwanted techs.

MPE would help - find out where to trade, and hopefully pick up a few useful techs on the way to Democracy.

MPE and happy wonders... those are my choices. I'm sure there will be some Lighthouse proponents as well.

	03-02-2003 20:36									#28
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quote: Originally posted by -Jrabbit Looks like a blast. Guess I'll have to live vicariously through your conquest. Enjoy!

Always room for a bunny! You're in

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	03-02-2003 20:48									#29
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Order of Play

Obiwan18 - 15 Turns
La Fayette - 15 Turns
SCG - 12 Turns
SG[1] - 12 Turns
STYOM - 12 Turns
SG(2) - 12 Turns
Hydey - 12 Turns
DrSpike - 12 Turns
Straybow - 12 Turns
-Jrabbit - 12 Turns

There are 10 of us!

After Obiwan18 and La Fayette have started the ball rolling (in the early years you often have little to do) with 15 turns each I suggest the rest of us play 12 during the first round.

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Last edited by Scouse Gits on 04-02-2003 at 05:08

	03-02-2003 22:08									#30
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quote: Originally posted by Scouse Gits Always room for a bunny! You're in ----------------------- SG(2)