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MrFun is offline MrFun
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Palestinian extremists party today. Suffering from ads?

Keep this stuff out of the Columbia thread and vent your anger in this thread please.


As for me -- I try to direct my anger towards Palestinian extremists, and try to not have a prejudice or hatred towards all Palestinians, even though I sympathize with Israel.

The Palestinian extremists who are celebrating today make me sick.

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as of yet, I haven't read any such reports except for what Eli said.

but i assume they are celebrating. the question being, whether privately or not

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When US invaded Afghanistan to kill lots of innocent people, we could see on tv how some Americans were celebrating that you got your revenge for 9/11. Nothing wrong about that, right?

Let's face it, many people are just *ssholes and take pleasure in others suffering

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Combat -- the behavior of those Americans was wrong too. Of course it goes both ways.

Soldiers should definitely celebrate combat victories -- but not celebrate how many guys they killed.

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Jumpin' jiminy, there's no proof of anyone celebrating this. Could everyone stop waving their ****** around for a few minutes?

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Eli said it first.
When I commented that I couldn't find anything about it on any of the web's newssites, someone else (don't remember who ) said he could see the celebrations from near his house.

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Eli lives next to Gaza and he claims to have seen people celibrating. We can either believe him or not believe him but I have never known him to lie before.

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I agree with you, MrFun.
Anyone who celebrate the death of innocents, regardless of their nationality or religion, have serious issues.

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Jack_www also claims he has seen TV reports of Iraqis celibrating this tragedy.

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"we could see on tv how some Americans were celebrating that you got your revenge for 9/11. "

Source? Maybe some Americans celebrated military victories, which is OK, but these men on Columbia were just doing scientific experiments.More idiotic Eurocrap trying to draw moral equivalency.

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Source? Maybe some Americans celebrated military victories, which is OK, but these men on Columbia were just doing scientific experiments.More idiotic Eurocrap trying to draw moral equivalency.


Thank you for giving me the insight that my dislike for celebrating war and death is "idiotic Eurocrap". Sadly, I don't think I will improve my "idiotic" behaviour...

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Still waiting on that source.....

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Eli lives next to Gaza and he claims to have seen people celibrating.


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The war in Afghanistan had the specific purpose of seeking out the al Queda terroists and overthrowing the Taliban. Victories in that effort could be celebrated. But I do not know a single person who celebrated the death of any innocent bystander. Yes, I saw a few on TV who seemed glad that some died, but in a nation of 270 million (or whatever number we are up to now), there are going to be a few bigots or just plain sociopaths.

There is a big difference between a few idiots celebrating and masses of a whole population in the streets dancing and cheering. I remember the scenes from the first Gulf War where a bicyclist was crossing a bridge as a "smart bomb" closed in. When he was seen unharmed, Americans cheered for the bicyclist! I think that says enough to show the difference...

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Well, of course celebrating such a thing is making no sense and -loony.
But it's the question how many really celebrated. I've heard that those pictures showing "thousands of Palestinians" celebrating 9/11 out on the street was very exaggerated and the images shown were always the same bunch of people.
But even if they were many, what does this tell us? It would tell us that there is a lot of people with a capacity to differentiate that is close to zero. Well, we can be racists, say they're scum and dumb monsters and say: "F*ck them."
But if we're not racists, this should scare us and tell us something. It's time to help things to IMPROVE in Palestine (education, social problems, infrastructure), not destroy the last bit over there. What makes many people over there so fanatic is their extreme poverty, ongoing fear of attacks (fear is probably the most important factor, counts for all sides) and due to no access to education many obviously lack the ability to make a difference. Easy victims for extremists offering a "solution" and presenting someone who's responsible for everything.
Only bombing and attacking and destroying Palestinian infrastructure won't make them more insightful less dangerous or even giving up. It's an illusion!

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Well, of course celebrating such a thing is making no sense and -loony.
But it's the question how many really celebrated. I've heard that those pictures showing "thousands of Palestinians" celebrating 9/11 out on the street was very exaggerated and the images shown were always the same bunch of people.
But even if they were many, what does this tell us? It would tell us that there is a lot of people with a capacity to differentiate that is close to zero. Well, we can be racists, say they're scum and dumb monsters and say: "F*ck them."
But if we're not racists, this should scare us and tell us something. It's time to help things to IMPROVE in Palestine (education, social problems, infrastructure), not destroy the last bit over there. What makes many people over there so fanatic is their extreme poverty, ongoing fear of attacks (fear is probably the most important factor, counts for all sides) and due to no access to education many obviously lack the ability to make a difference. Easy victims for extremists offering a "solution" and presenting someone who's responsible for everything.
Only bombing and attacking and destroying Palestinian infrastructure won't make them more insightful less dangerous or even giving up. It's an illusion!


dhoh , everytime we build something they destroy it , .....

want a better palestine , well then "ignore" the current PA and the people who claim to help them , all they do is provoke further war and corruption , ....

and when , just when is some-one going to pay attention to what really goes on , ........

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Well http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tm...shuttle_iraq_dc says there hasn't been any big parties in the streets.
I don't know if it's true, maybe some extremists think it was great.. but we all know what they are, and I don't know why this needs to be aired so loudly. To say 'Yeah, those Palestinian extremists really sucks ass' ? Extremists are the same.

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The question is, is it just extremists who are happy or is it widespread among the population?

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Unstubstantiated rumors!



You are sick evil bastards trying to score political points over a tragedy.

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So what?

This world is ram-jam-packed full of arseholes, and if you go looking for them, you'll find them- and they'll probably be doing something monumentally crass.

They're everywhere, all the time. So don't be surprised that some ***** are celebrating. Equally, don't be surprised and struggling to restrain a smirk at the first "Exploding Columbia" joke you receive by e-mail or at work.

It's a tragedy. It's horrible- but that's all it is. Making a political point on it is just pissing on those poor sods graves.

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I really don't know anything about today, but a celebration followed 9-11.

I would also like to add that many, including on this forum, felt that this was impossible.

Still, I have no proof to make any assertion about today.

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Shi, what's your problem? Do you think there are absolutely no Americans taking pleasure from bombings, and that civilians died too? I'm sure there was many. Of course minority, but these people are everywhere. Besides I heard from American document a very stupid comment from a man who was drinking beer right after 9/11 happened saying 'let's wait until our troops bomb the **** out of ragheards' and was looking happy about it. Now, this man coudln't have known right after 9/11 that these men were arabs. My point? *******s are everywhere, even outside Europe.

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"You are sick evil bastards trying to score political points over a tragedy."

The reason I tend to believe them is because Eli said it happened and I don't think he would make something like this up, and because it seems logical enough that some Palestinians would celebrate given some extremists did over 9/11 and because there are some Palestinians who really really don't like Americans and Jews.

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Azazel, yeah, we got to see it in news quite soon after 9/11.. and the problem is, I don't think everyone of these people were considered as extremists, but rather normal people. Quite sick.

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Wait 'till it's confirmed before you go condemning people. At this point, all that's happened is Eli has spread an unsubstantiated rumor. No one else yet, including his fellow Israelis, can point to a source . . . other than Eli himself.

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Adn I'm not saying Eli is lying.. there must be some people celebrating. But no big street parties has been reported, at least not yet.

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Alright I looked it up. You said the parties are already starting in Gaza and another Israeli said they had an eye witness account.

I got confused by all those Israeli flags around here at 'poly.

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So is it Palestinians who are celebrating? Or is it Iraqis? Or is it gay Israelis?

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cheg, nah, I think some Iraqis are celebrating.. Saddam is! I read somewhere that some of his gov officials said that it was act of God.. yeah sure whatever. They have forgotten to put their masks on when they were making all those nerv gasses.

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Didn't see your post Pekka.

"Do you think there are absolutely no Americans taking pleasure from bombings, and that civilians died too? "

Show me a source where Americans celebrated Afghani civilian deaths.

"Besides I heard from American document a very stupid comment from a man who was drinking beer right after 9/11 happened saying 'let's wait until our troops bomb the **** out of ragheards' and was looking happy about it. Now, this man coudln't have known right after 9/11 that these men were arabs. "

Newsflash! Person while drunk says something stupid! I don't doubt some people sounded extremely bellicose right after 9/11, but I'd like to see a source where it showed a substantial group of Americans celebrating civilian deaths.

"At this point, all that's happened is Eli has spread an unsubstantiated rumor."

It's not like I am submitting this as an academic report. All I am saying is I lean strongly towards believing Eli is telling the truth. If you want to think he is lying go ahead.

 
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