04-02-2003 03:09									#151
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quote: Originally posted by Dissident This would involve forcibly moving U.S. troops to African nations to distribute food. They may not like this. The U.N. would not like us moving U.S. troops into other nations.

No, it would mean investing in infrastructure and equipment so that they can grow their own food.

"Give a man a fish and he eats for a day. Teach a man to fish and he eats for a lifetime."

In fact, just removing the huge subsidies that both US and the EU give to their farmers would go a long way to alleviating world hunger. The developing nations would actually have an export that makes them money, instead of having to rely on the IMF and handouts from more prosperous nations.

Now there's a waste of money, paying people not to grow things.

	04-02-2003 03:10									#152
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quote: Originally posted by Docfeelgood Speculation or fact?

The stuff exists, I just don't know whether you use it. It's been used on me. Maybe you live in a backwater where you still use twenty year old equipment.

Not that's you'll pay any attention to this. You'll just continue to whine, "Why isn't anyone answering my questions?"

They are, you just refuse to see.

	04-02-2003 03:13									#153
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Another:

http://www.mennenmedical.com/p75.htm

quote: Mennen Medical itself was founded in 1963, as an outgrowth of the NASA Space Program. Our philosophy is to develop systems that integrate state-of-the-art technologies which are easily and affordably updated. We rely heavily on our client base and your input for feedback to keep our products up-to-date and clinically relevant.

	04-02-2003 03:13									#154
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You gonna give up that easy?

If you can't convince me, how you gonna convence congress in the near future when Nasa is to be dissolved?


Maybe we can go at this from another direction?

	04-02-2003 03:15									#155
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Willem....or, we could just send them luggage!

Hard to grow much in the desert. I mean, we've got some sturdy strains of wheat (courtesy of Doc's Waste-o-time science and all), but they do need a LITTLE water....

But....the fact is that nobody (no government) is gonna just dole out money and tell yonder dictator "you...go build infrastructure for your people."

I wish we could...but it don't work that way, and troops would be necessary to ensure stuff got done, or, to ensure the safety of our own experts we send over to make SURE stuff gets done.

-=Vel=-

	04-02-2003 03:17									#156
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Doc, no need to go at it from another direction. You've got all the answers...clearly.

Absolutely everything people have brought to your attention has been cast aside, BY YOU as BS....so yep....I have concluded that it is not cost-effective to try and convince you otherwise.

-=Vel=-

	04-02-2003 03:18									#157
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quote: Originally posted by Docfeelgood I ask again. Why should space be exclusive American domain? Is this what it is all about?

Why do you think it's called the International Space Station. In case you haven't heard, Russia, Canada, Japan, just to name a few, all have made some contribution to it. The US just happens to be in the position of having the most money to spare towards it.

	04-02-2003 03:19									#158
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quote: The stuff exists, I just don't know whether you use it. It's been used on me. Maybe you live in a backwater where you still use twenty year old equipment.

Its really hard to have a seriouse conversation when sh!t like this is spurting out of that azzhole in your head you call a mouth.


You wann talk seriouse then do it!

	04-02-2003 03:21									#159
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Doc - you run your mouth with any further insults to any other posters here, and you can take a week off. This is the only warning you get from me.

Chill or be chilled now.

	04-02-2003 03:22									#160
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quote: Originally posted by Docfeelgood Its really hard to have a seriouse conversation when sh!t like this is spurting out of that azzhole in your head you call a mouth. You wann talk seriouse then do it!

YOU OBVIOUSLY DIDN'T SEE MY WARNING!

ONE MORE POST LIKE THIS AND YOU ARE TOAST.

If you want to continue with your misguided opinions... fine... but enough of this kind of crap.

	04-02-2003 03:23									#161
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Nice post MtG just a tad faster... GOOD JOB

	04-02-2003 03:24									#162
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D'oh! Tag Teamed!

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	04-02-2003 03:25									#163
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quote: Hard to grow much in the desert. I mean, we've got some sturdy strains of wheat (courtesy of Doc's Waste-o-time science and all), but they do need a LITTLE water....

Come on, don't be mean.


Don't stoop down to that level like some of the others. { names I won't mention}.(like chegitz)

Your above that Velociryx

	04-02-2003 03:29									#164
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quote: If you want to continue with your misguided opinions... fine....

This is how you really feel about what I think?

	04-02-2003 03:29									#165
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quote: Originally posted by Docfeelgood Don't stoop down to that level like some of the others. { names I won't mention}.(like chegitz)

What we have here, is failure to communicate.

See you in a week.

	04-02-2003 03:30									#166
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quote: Originally posted by Anun Ik Oba I guess that's the point: when's the last time they found a groovy-thing Y? I mean, something attainable, not just more pretty pictures of the edge of the universe.

They've discovered that there's a lot of water on both the moon and Mars. That leaves open the possibility of people someday living on both bodies. This discovery on Mars in particular would never have been made if it wasn't for NASA.

Oh yes, I forgot the Europa, the moon orbiting Jupiter that just may support life beneath it's frozen crust. We wouldn't ever have known that without the space program.

I'd say that pretty exciting stuff myself.

	04-02-2003 03:30									#167
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Not trying to be mean, Doc....but every point that I and a great many others have made (and we're not talking conjectural stuff either, look at the recently posted links) have been unilaterally ignored and cast aside as BS.

So....what's left to say?

You have your opinion, and are welcome to it. A lot of people, however, hold a markedly different one.

-=Vel=-

	04-02-2003 03:32									#168
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quote: Originally posted by Docfeelgood This is how you really feel about what I think?

You seem to think everybody else is misguided...

Enjoy your week off... Good Job MtG.

"What we have here, is failure to communicate."... so true... so true.

	04-02-2003 03:33									#169
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quote: Originally posted by Willem No, it would mean investing in infrastructure and equipment so that they can grow their own food. "Give a man a fish and he eats for a day. Teach a man to fish and he eats for a lifetime." In fact, just removing the huge subsidies that both US and the EU give to their farmers would go a long way to alleviating world hunger. The developing nations would actually have an export that makes them money, instead of having to rely on the IMF and handouts from more prosperous nations. Now there's a waste of money, paying people not to grow things.

Giving away food as Doc suggests is at best a temporary remedy.

	04-02-2003 03:42									#170
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quote: Originally posted by Docfeelgood No person all mornin long has given me one good reason as to why NASA should exist!

We've given you all sorts of reasons but you refuse to acknowledge any of it! Frankly, I think you have the honour of being the most closeminded person I've ever come across on Apolyton. I feel sorry for you, I really do. You're incapable of seeing the potential of what mankind can be. You're like a small child who plays with a cardboard box, after opening the really cool toy it's parents bought it. You simply fail to see the wonder in our destiny.

And yes it is our destiny. Someday we actually will send a space ship to Alpha Centauri. Provided people like you don't end up running this world. If that happens, we'll be trapped here if a killer asteroid does ever come our way, and we won't stand a chance.

	04-02-2003 03:45									#171
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HEY... the warnings were meant for EVERYBODY.

Discuss the issues... fine. But stop with the personal crap. THIS IS THE LAST WARNING!

	04-02-2003 03:49									#172
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quote: Originally posted by Docfeelgood If you can't convince me, how you gonna convence congress in the near future when Nasa is to be dissolved?

Of course, that's why Bush just increased their budget by $500 million dollars.

Finally he does something right!

	04-02-2003 03:54									#173
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quote: What we have here, is failure to communicate. See you in a week.

	04-02-2003 03:55									#174
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quote: Originally posted by Velociryx Hard to grow much in the desert. I mean, we've got some sturdy strains of wheat (courtesy of Doc's Waste-o-time science and all), but they do need a LITTLE water....

Well considering that many farmers around the world still use oxen to plough their fields tells me that there's a lot of room for improvement over what they have now.

	04-02-2003 04:09									#175
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Azazel,

Would you like it if someone laughed at you for getting restricted?

Please, let it be.

	04-02-2003 04:30									#176
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quote: Originally posted by Docfeelgood Billions of dollars spent and many lives lost for CELL PHONES?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!? sad

hey hey hey, lets not forget the whole pursuit of science and knowledge. That is what I live for. That is the main purpose of NASA, I believe. Thanks to the Hubble space telescope, Apollo program, numerous probes, we've learned incredible things about the solar system and universe within which we exist. I can understand you holding the value of life above materialistic stuff, but this knowledge is priceless to me.

NASA

	04-02-2003 09:19									#177
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quote: Ramo, private corporations in other countries were free to persue such technologies. They didn't. There is no reason to believe that short-sighted American corporations would have been any different.

Research in other industrialized states, in general, has been heavily state-subsidized as well... It's been pretty universal in the West and Japan. The reason that the US has been coming up with all of these innovations is simply because the US has been so much stronger in terms of available resources to carry out the research.

quote: And doesn't Bell Labs get an awful lot of government contracts?

I'm sure that the gov't partially funds Bell Labs, but I don't know if they contract out projects to them.

	04-02-2003 09:31									#178
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*So tempted to start a thread about a certain poster being a waste of skin*

My restraint astounds even me...

	04-02-2003 09:33									#179
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You're a good man, Boris.

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(even if you have a freaky avatar! )

	04-02-2003 09:44									#180
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quote: Originally posted by Boris Godunov *So tempted to start a thread about a certain poster being a waste of skin* My restraint astounds even me...

I hope your restraint holds... because if you (or anybody else for that matter) do, or continue picking on Doc personally in this thread, you will get the same thing he did for making personal attacks.

Is that clear