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Israel to Saudi Arabia: Here's our deal:
We give:
Lebanon independence
All we have taken from Syria except Golan Heights.
Almost all of Sinai except we keep control of the Suez Canal.
You give:
$1,000,000,000
$100,000,000 worth of weapons
Tariff-free trade (but we can still impose tariffs on your merchants)
Oil prices when buying from Arab nations of 80% the normal price.

OOC: If accepted, the Israeli economy goes up 1/2 step. If Saudi Arabia pays all of it, its economy goes down 1/3 of a step; if they split the cost with the other Arab nations each Arab nation loses 1/10 of a step

	13-02-2003 03:01									#122
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Yemen to Saudi Arabia: Agreed.

Tunis to Saudi Arabia: We will remember your generosity.

	13-02-2003 03:10									#123
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To: Israel
From: Saudi Arabia

uhmmm, we agree on almost all of it but:
- Ships from all Arabian nations (members of the Grand Arabic Alliance) must be granted free passage through the Suez Canal
- Free Trade must be both ways
- We must discuss with Syria, Jordan and Egypt to see if they agree with it.

To: Egypt, Syria, Jordan
From: Saudi Arabia

What do you think about the offer of Israel?
Of course Saudi Arabia would take up all the payments.

Saluti

	13-02-2003 03:29									#124
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To Japan: Consider this a Declaration of War.
To Siam: We accept your earlier proposal to join us in alliance.

French forces move into Siam, as a staging point for operations against Japan and other hostiles in the region.

French Stats:
Army: Medium
Navy: Medium
Air Force: Small
Government: Democracy
Economy: Stable
Industrialization: Very High

	13-02-2003 03:39									#125
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TO Japan:
You are in violation of your constitution. Leave the war immediately or the USA will be forced to act. We will not allow you to get away with breaking the agreements set forth in 1948.

	13-02-2003 04:45									#126
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Kyiv to Hungary and Czechoslovakia:

we once again offer you admittance into the Kyiv Confederation, join us and our prosperity and safety.


With the economy fully recovered and growing, social programs of education and advanced scientific and philosophical institutions are being set up and quality of life is now almost universally high, with almost everyone productive and enjoying prosperity but not extravagance. This is encouraging advanced institutions and markets which is in the process of bringing industrialization up to very high.

Kyiv to Russia (SECRET) :

The world is once again reshaping itself, with empires growing all over Asia and this 'trend' sure to quickly spread to the rest of the world, as evidenced by the formation of the Baltic Alliance, right on our doorstep. Would you like an alliance with Kyiv, to ensure both our safety? Hopefully we won't need to exercise this alliance, but this can also extend to peacetime and trading pacts and industrial/economic mutualism.

	13-02-2003 06:23									#127
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Egypt to Saudi Arabia: We will agree if all Arabs can move through the Suez Canal for free.
Syria to Saudi Arabia: WE agree to Israel's terms.
Jordan to Saudi Arabia: We cannot accept anything that does not give us back our land they took or pay us money for it.
Iraq to Saudi Arabia: What about us?? DO we not matter? The lower oil prices to Israel will hurt us almost as much as you!

Isreal to Saudi Arabia: We will agree to one of the new terms you proposed but not both. You can choose which will be implemented.

Japan to US: We will withdraw from Korea but may return...

Japan to France: There is no reason we should be at war. We would like to make peace with you.

	13-02-2003 07:01									#128
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to Kyjiv YES

To Switzerland: you stated the following to Iran "we laugh at your pathetic tax" yet you claim to remain neutral. What you are doing in these countries is forcing them into bankruptcy, it is NOT the way to remain neutral. Additionally, even though shares may indeed exist in companies, Rarely do vital industries leave the bidding open to ANY nation, making your threats unfounded. ((CIVMAN!!! I'm gonna call for a ruling by the reality police, no government with a free market allows all of it's industries to be bought in this manner, the idea that sheep can go into a country with a free market and take over economically is ludicrous, and the idea that he can take over the economy of a non-democratic nation is insanity. He really would only be able to get a handle on luxury products, which would be fine, as that would promote competition, and ultimately an increase in overall revenue and business, but antitrust laws, which exist in every nation in this NES, would not allow complete control by any one body.))

In regards to Indonesia, Russia is waiting for the conflict to develop further ((could someone sum it up for me, I haven't been able to get to the forums in the past couple days))

	13-02-2003 08:36									#129
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Iran - Diplomacy

Iran to Mongols: We are willing to make peace with your nation; however, you must give us the land that we currently occupy (the western 1/3rd of your land - see civman's map.)

Iran to Kazakstan: Welcome to the Iranian Empire.

Iran to Germany and Siam: We are ending our trade embargoes with your nations.

Iran to Switzerland: You may laugh at our tax, but you better pay it, because companies that are caught avoiding taxes may be taken over by the Iranian Government.
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Iran - Domestic Happenings
- Industrialization is upgrading to Medium-Low in 2 years/4 days.
- Air Force to Tiny in 1.5 years/3 days.
- Navy to Medium in 2.5 years/5 days.
- Economy will improve in 2.5 years/5 days.
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Iran - Statistics - July 1961
Iran (blue-green)
Ruler: Jonny
Army: Large
Navy: Small
Air Force: None
Government: Monarchy
Economy: Growing
Industrialization: Low

	13-02-2003 11:30									#130
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All Remaining British Colonies in Africa will have an election in Six months time. There will be three options available on the ballot.
Complete Independence
Commonwealth Protecterate
Colony(current status quo)

If none of the options gains a clear majority(60 percent of total) there will be a new ballot with the higher of the two options put on the ballot. This Decision once reached will be instituated six months after the results are finalized.

	13-02-2003 20:50									#131
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Kyiv's arms industries are getting a boost as the government has hired several firms to produce advanced designs for weapons technology. The navy is being upgraded with defense in mind, gunboats and small submarines being the primary units built, with a single aircraft carrier soon to be commissioned. The Army and Air Force are receiving the most funds and attention, with better planes, rockets, and other ari technology being developed. Mobile Armor units and urban warfare techniques are the focal point of the Army upgrade.

Navy will stay at medium size but be improved in speed, stealth, and per unit firepower.

Army will be upgraded to large, advanced.

Air force will be upgraded to medium, advanced.

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To Japan:
Agreed. Let there be peace. But let it be known that France will not tolerate Empires springing up at random.

To Iran: A warning: keep your militarism in check.

To Kyiv: France would like to extend you our hand. Will you sign a Free Trade Agreement with us?

French forces remain in Siam, to ensure rebellions and invasion do not threaten the fledgling republic.

	13-02-2003 21:42									#133
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Swiss economic buy outs continue.

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To: Switzerland
From: Saudi Arabia

We welcome swiss money in our economy, but let it be known that all industries in Saudi Arabia are very strictly regulated by the government, and of course also the ones you have shares of.
We heard of many nations complaining about you, so we will keep a close eye to those industry you buy share of, to make sure that nothing goes against the Saudi law.

To: Kyiv
From: Saudi Arabia

We agree.

To: Allies
From: Saudi Arabia

Ok, we'll keep talking with Israel and convenice them it is better for them to sweeten up the deal.

To: Lybia, Tunis
From: Saudi Arabia

Why don't you join into the Great Arabic Alliance? it would strengthen all of us, and will make our voice more powerful to the eyes of the world.

To: Israel
From: Saudi Arabia

After talkings to our allies we make you this counter-offer:
We want:
- Lebanon Independent
- Sinai back to Egypt
- Syrian territories lost in the war back to Syria
- Jordanian territories lost in the war back to Jordan
- Free passage to all Arab ships through Suez

We offer:
- $1,000,000,000
- $100,000,000 worth of weapons
- Free trade on our products (you can impose tariffs)
- You may keep the Suez Canal Area (but give all Arab nations free passage)
- Oil prices when buying from Arab nations of 80% the normal price. (but only enough Oil to your own nation, if you try to sell our Oil, this piece of the deal will be canceled immediatly).

What do you say?

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Saudi Arabia Stats: January 1962 (???)

Government: Monarchy
Ruler: King Fahd Ibn Abd-el Aziz
Capital: Ar-Riyad
Population: 15 Milions
Economy: Prosperous
Industrialization: Low
Army: Medium
Navy: Medium
Air Force: None

Saudi Arabia Projects:
Industralization to Medium-Low: 5.5 years
Air Force to Tiny: 1.5 years
Air Force to Small: 3 years (cumulative with above)

	13-02-2003 23:15									#135
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January 1962
A worldwide movement has sprung up as a result of Swiss economic imperialism. THroughout many of the nations with strong Swiss economic influence, Swiss-owned companies are being boycotted. 70% of the non-Swiss companies in North America, Europe, and the Middle East have entered into an international coalition to resist the Swiss growth. Overall, the revenues of Swiss companies have gone down by 16%.

British Colony independence votes:
Nigeria:
Colony: 15%
Independence: 76%
Commonwealth: 9%
Rhodesia:
Colony: 26%
Commonwealth: 47%
Independence: 27%
Runoff in Rhodesia:
Commonwealth: 65%
Independence: 35%

The Mongol government has collapsed, and its government is in chaos. Korea has proclaimed that it is no longer allied with them, and has invaded eastern Manchuria.

Indonesia has fallen apart. Siam has conquered Sumatra and declared it a province of the Empire of Siam. German troops have taken control of Java and some other islands. Borneo and Celebes have declared themselves to be independent nations. Borneo claims British Borneo as its own and Celebes claims control of western new guinea.

Terrorist attacks continue but are slowing in India.

TUnis to Saudi Arabia: We will join the alliance.
Libya to Saudi Arabia: Sorry, but no.
Israel to Saudi Arabia: Your terms are absurd. Come back when you have something reasonable to say.

	14-02-2003 03:36									#136
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Ethnic clashes have caused Czechoslovakia to split into the Czech REpublic and Slovakia. Slovakia, Austria, and Hungary have agreed to merge into the Federation of Wien.

Czech Republic to GErmany: WE would like to join the GErman Republic.

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To: Czech Republic
Yes you are welcome to join the German Republic.

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The German Government has started mass investment in Swiss banking and swiss componies.
Control of swiss stuff: 13%

The German Goverment seeing the condition of the country starts work to improve things by getting people more jobs. (Complete)

The Goverment see the waekness of our military and desides to start building it up.
Army to medium
Navy to small
Air Force to small

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Germany Stats:

Germany (currently white)
Ruler: Nimitz
Army: Medium
Navy: Small
Air Force: Small
Government: Democracy
Economy: Stable
Industrialization: Very High

	14-02-2003 07:28									#138
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The Mongol generals have somehow been able to get their army to make one last counteroffensive. They met Iranian forces outside Ulanbataar, and got pummeled. 95% of the army was killed, wounded, or captured, or deserted. The government leaders have fled the Empire, some to China, some to RUssia, some een attempted to sneak into Tibet. Much of the rest of Mongolia and Manchuria is now controlled by local warlords. Many have pledged their support to Iran; others to CHina; and others t no one but themselves.

	14-02-2003 08:54									#139
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Iran - Diplomacy

Iran to Mongolian and Manchurian Warlords in support of Iran: You are all welcome to join the Iranian Empire, if you wish to.

Iran to Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia, and Saudi Arabian Allies: Why don't we join our two alliances into one Grand Islamic Alliance?
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Iran - Domestic Happenings
- Industrialization is upgrading to Medium-Low in 1.5 years/3 days.
- Air Force to Tiny in 1 years/2 days.
- Navy to Medium in 2 years/4 days.
- Economy will improve in 2 years/4 days.
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Iran - Statistics - January 1962
Iran (blue-green)
Ruler: Jonny
Army: Large
Navy: Small
Air Force: None
Government: Monarchy
Economy: Growing
Industrialization: Low

	14-02-2003 15:54									#140
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Tjhe Swiss government has announced that all German investmenting companies in the Swiss buisness market are now Swiss owned negatiung the fact that Germany owns any Swiss companies.

To Saudi Arabia:
From Switzerland: (secret) I plan to make the Arab world the richest through their oil. Swiss will benifit but so will you.

	14-02-2003 23:04									#141
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quote: Tjhe Swiss government has announced that all German investmenting companies in the Swiss buisness market are now Swiss owned negatiung the fact that Germany owns any Swiss companies.

If you're negating GErmany's claim, they can do the same to you. Thus I will say that what you said may or may not be true, but that its only your official position.

July 1962
Finally, 8 months have passed in India without a terrorist attack...
Rhodesia has become a British Commonwealth, and Nigeria has been granted independence.

Borneo has declared war on Celebes, and made an alliance with Siam.
Celebes to Britain: Help us, Borneo has aided rebels in your colony of British Borneo!
Korean forces have marched west, taking most of the remaining Mongol Empire. The rest of the Empire has fallen to or joined Iran.
Japan to Iran, Britain, Celebes and China: LEt us ally to stop Siamese and Korean growth.
Celebes to Japan: Agreed.
Borneo, Siam, and Korea to GErmany: We urge you to join our alliance.
Syria and Egypt to Saudi Arabia: WE should ally with Iran, but still keep our alliance as a separate entity, so that if we have a conflict with Iran, we will all be together.
Iraq to Saudi Arabia: We think it would be unwise to ally with Iran.
Jordan and Tunis to Saudi Arabia: We think we should admit Iran into our alliance.

	15-02-2003 02:11									#142
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To: Allies
From: Saudi Arabia

We looked at all your positions towards Iran, as such we believe that the wisest idea could be to make a separate alliance with them, we still don't trust them since they have allied with Israel and the US long time ago, but maybe by allying with them we might be able to change their diplomatic positions, after all they are a fellow Islamic nation.

That's our idea.

We keep the current Grand Arabic Alliance as it is, and we form a new alliance with Iran, but of course the GAA would have higher priority.

(secret)Also did you noticed how those Isrealis treated us?, we think we'll have to teach them a lesson soon, something they'll never forget, we just have to wait for the right moment. But be ready.(/secret)

To: Iran
From: Saudi Arabia

We are currently discussing the issue with our allies, but as we do not trust you, since you have allied with the US and Israel long time ago, we will not admit you in the GAA, but we may decide to stipulate with you a separate alliance.

To: Switzerland
From: Saudi Arabia

Don't make us laugh, Saudi Arabia is already very rich from Oil, and that is surely not thank to Switzerland.
All Oil companies are owned by sheiks very close to the royal family, and none of those industries are in the stock exchange market, so it is impossible to buy shares of it.

What we intended was that we will closely watch your investiment over the other industries, that are starting to take off, especially in the Southern area. Those industries are going to be very strong in the near future, as most likely all Arabs will buy their products. As we said we will allow swiss investiment in the NEW industries, but remember that here we have different rules than Europe, and who don't respect them is in deep trouble.

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Saudi Arabia Stats: July 1962

Government: Monarchy
Ruler: King Fahd Ibn Abd-el Aziz
Capital: Ar-Riyad
Population: 16 Milions
Economy: Prosperous
Industrialization: Low
Army: Medium
Navy: Medium
Air Force: None

Saudi Arabia Projects:
Industralization to Medium-Low: 5 years
Air Force to Tiny: 1 years
Air Force to Small: 3 years (cumulative with above)

	15-02-2003 09:26									#143
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Iran - Diplomacy

Iran to Japan: We are not interested in an alliance at this time, sorry.

Iran to Saudi Arabia: Our alliance with the US and Israel was a thing of the past. Let us forget about the past and look towards the future. Let us into the GAA, you can trust us. We will fight alongside you, even if it means fighting Israel. If you don't let us in the GAA, well, there are always other countries we could form an alliance with...

Iran to Britain: (secret) We would be interested in possibly buying Pakistan from you. It would benefit both of us, because we believe that if the Pakistanis are ruled by a Muslim government, they would be more content, and could possibly end terror attacks in India for good.
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Iran - Domestic Happenings
- Industrialization is upgrading to Medium-Low in 1 years/2 days.
- Air Force to Tiny in .5 years/1 days.
- Navy to Medium in 1.5 years/3 days.
- Economy will improve in 1.5 years/3 days.
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Iran - Statistics - July 1962
Iran (blue-green)
Ruler: Jonny
Army: Large
Navy: Small
Air Force: None
Government: Monarchy
Economy: Growing
Industrialization: Low

	15-02-2003 10:05									#144
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To Iran: (Secret) Pakistan is yours in exhange for 1,000,000,999 pounds.(End Secret)

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Britian Completes a model of a Rocket designed to launch objects beyond the atmosphere completion is expected on this project in 2 years.

Meanwhile, The repairs and retrofit of Canada has been finished so in six months time there will be a vote with the same conditions applicable that was presented to our former African Colonies.

	15-02-2003 10:12									#146
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To: Switzerland
Do to your actions we have not choice but to nationalize all companies owned by you.

To: Koria, Siam, and Borneo
We will join your alliance.

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The German Government has nationalized all German companies owned by the Swiss and put them back up for sale to any one but the swiss.

The German Goverment seeing the condition of the country starts work to improve things by getting people more jobs. (Complete)

The Goverment see the waekness of our military and desides to start building it up.
Army to Large (3 years)
Navy to small
Air Force to small

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Germany Stats:

Germany (currently white)
Ruler: Nimitz
Army: Medium
Navy: Small
Air Force: Small
Government: Democracy
Economy: Stable
Industrialization: Very High

	15-02-2003 10:25									#147
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An unknown shadow wing of the Kyiv government is indirectly funding rebellion groups and guerrilla bands in Central America and Southeast Asia, supplying them with arms and supplies illicitly purchased from various Asian markets. The greatest efforts have been gone through to ensure that these actions cannot be traced back to this shadow wing, which is actually basing itself and these activities from somewhere in Sub-Saharan Africa.

Kyiv to Federation of Wien:

Let us join together. You obviously seek prosperity and protection, for you are joining in alliances, but why not join a larger and more affluent alliance? Come to Kyiv, you will benefit greatly from it.

	15-02-2003 11:28									#148
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A large number of Russian Citizens in the area that shares a border with Mongolia, have formed a large self-funded military force. These neo-martialists have taken over the protection of local villiages, and several bands within the larger group have moved into Mongolia to plunder horses and herd animals. The Russian government has asked these men to stop, but will not force them to, as their fortification of Russia's borders is better for Russia's overall success.

In Russia, a law was passed, this law stated that Swiss cheese will now be known in Russia as "the food of the idiot" several committees were more willing to ban it completely, but ultimately this was ruled impossible to enforce.

To Germany: It seems as if we have a common economic enemy in Switzerland, would you like to join with Russia in a trade agreement? ((ooc: disregard if you've already got a trade agreement with russia... I can't keep track of all of them.))

To Kyiv: What do you say to a free exchange technological info pact. This will help ease the burden of war on our people by enabling us to fight the best!

	15-02-2003 12:17									#149
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What countries are open? Goober and I fixed our single-name problem, and will both be participating now.

	15-02-2003 18:36									#150
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Current nations that are colored in the map (please correct me if anything is incorrect):
Britain (orange)
Ruler: DemonSlayer
Army: Medium
Navy: Large
Air Force: Medium
Government: Democracy
Economy: Growing
Industrialization: Very High

US (light blue)
Ruler: Easthaven I
Army: Large
Navy: Large
Air Force: Large
Government: Democracy
Economy: Booming
Industrialization: Very High

France (pink)
Ruler: Thud
Army: Medium
Navy: Medium
Air Force: Small
Government: Democracy
Economy: Stable
Industrialization: Very High

Israel (blue)
Ruler: ??
Army: Medium
Navy: Tiny
Air Force: Small
Government: Democracy
Economy: Stable
Industrialization: Medium-Low

Saudi Arabia (yellow)
Ruler: Giovanni Wine
Army: Medium
Navy: Medium
Air Force: None
Government: Monarchy
Economy: Prosperous
Industrialization: Low

Russia (brown)
Ruler: gooberboob
Army: Large
Navy: Small
Air Force: Small
Government: Democracy
Economy: Depression
Industrialization: High

Iran (blue-green)
Ruler: Jonny
Army: Large
Navy: Small
Air Force: None
Government: Monarchy
Economy: Growing
Industrialization: Low

China (red)
Ruler: Jack_www
Army: Medium
Navy: Medium
Air Force: Tiny
Government: Provisional and weak Republic
Economy: Recession
Industrialization: Medium

Japan (maroon)
Ruler: ??
Army: Medium
Navy: Medium
Air Force: Small
Government: Democracy
Economy: Stable
Industrialization: High

Switzerland (dark brown)
Ruler: Sheep
Army: Tiny
Navy:None
Air Force: Tiny
Government: Democracy
Economy: Booming
Industrialization: Very High

Kyiv (light yellow)
Ruler: foolish_icarus
Army: Medium
Navy: Medium
Air Force: Tiny
Government: Loose Confederacy of Democracies
Economy: Growing
Industrialization: High

Germany (dark blue)
Ruler: Nimitz
Army: Medium
Navy: Small
Air Force: Small
Government: Democracy
Economy: Stable
Industrialization: Very High

Madagascar (pale blue)
Ruler: jdd2007
Army: Small
Navy: Small
Air Force: Small
Government: Dictatorship
Economy: Growing
Industrialization: Medium-Low

Siam (purple)
Ruler: ??
Army: Small
Navy: Small
Air Force: None
Government: Republic
Economy: Recession
Industrialization: Low


Metaliturtle, you can be any white nation on the map, Israel, Siam, or Japan. If you want a white nation, say so and I'll post its stats, and then you should confirm that you want it.

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