07-02-2003 22:35									#1
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If he isn't already there, that is

C'mon, we all knew he was a loonie. Was I the only one who saw that rather disturbing, uh, expose last night?

That man should be institutionlized.

	07-02-2003 22:38									#2
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I don't care about Michael Jackson. He's been a loonie since the early 90's. Perhaps even earlier. He should be institutionalized, and they key should be thrown away.

	07-02-2003 22:40									#3
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If you got money you're not a loonie, you've got personality.

	07-02-2003 22:42									#4
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Yep, the guy isn't normal like most people, but that's not to say he's not normal. He's just different. Leave the guy alone.

	07-02-2003 22:48									#5
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quote: Originally posted by DuncanK Yep, the guy isn't normal like most people, but that's not to say he's not normal. He's just different. Leave the guy alone.

Not when he (a) sleeps with 12 year old boys in the same bed. (b) spends money he doesn't have, and (c) doesn't let his kids see their mother. On the show last night on of his boys told the interviewer he "doesn't have a Mummy".

Yeah, he isn't a danger to himself or society.

	07-02-2003 22:50									#6
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No DuncanK... you see... I'll leave the crazy homeless person alone... the guy who's holding the sign "We're all gonna die!" or "Repend, the end is upon us!". But I have no pity for a sick b4stard who molests children. For the good of the human race, he either needs intensive institutionalized mental health care or to be put to sleep.

	07-02-2003 23:37									#7
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He doesn't molest children. It was just a classic case of plebians trying to squeeze money out of a celebrity.

He only sleeps with them.

	07-02-2003 23:43									#8
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His money has kept him shielded for years, but he's clearly been disintegrating recently. He's finished.

	07-02-2003 23:45									#9
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quote: Originally posted by Static23 His money has kept him shielded for years, but he's clearly been disintegrating recently. He's finished.

You mean his nose?

	08-02-2003 12:34									#10
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smoking gun link

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/mjdec1.html

This document is supposed to be possessed by like 4 people. I can't see how the smoking gun got a hold of it.

It descibes an eye witness account of a kid who says michael jackson put his tongue inside his mouth. they took a bath together. They layed on top of each other with erections. michael masturbated in front of him. He then masturbated the kid with his hand and mouth.

Now the document could be a fake. Or the kid could be lying on advice from his father to make a lot of money. Anyways the link shows the document.

	08-02-2003 12:36									#11
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I love Michael Jackson. He is loony, but lokk at how he has lived his whole life, and how people have treated him... I understand why.

	08-02-2003 13:01									#12
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quote: Originally posted by Stuie You mean his nose?

I was going to say "he's clearly been disintegrating recently, both physically and mentally", but decided against it.

	08-02-2003 20:32									#13
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There can be no doubt that MJ had a sh*tty childhood, but after seeing stuff on that interview it seems like the world is turning a blind eye whilst he risks inflicting god knows what kinds of abuses on the childhoods of those that he gets his 'hands' on.

Some of the stuff I found totally disturbing, like feeding the baby and the whole business with the 12 yo boy. Let's not forget the baby out the window incident last year.

He needs to be investigated - childhoods are at risk!

We may feel pity for him, but that does not mean allowing him to repeat the cycle of abuse.

	08-02-2003 21:09									#14
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On a scale from one to ten, my level of pity for MJ was around -2 before the interview, and about -9 after it. Yeah, he probably didn't have a great childhood, but the same goes for countless other people. If he was anyone other than Michael Jackson, everyone would call his actions sick, deplorable and realize that he should not be allowed to go near children, let alone have sole custody of three kids.

As for the lying about the surgery thing (I mean, come on!), it only further crushes what little credibility he had left. If he wanted to say "I don't want to talk about it" that would be one thing and understandable, but to outright lie and say that all he's ever had was two nose jobs, it calls into question whether he's telling the truth about anything else (ie: not molesting the kids).

The final thing I found rather odd was that both of his two older kids are obviously completely white. There's almost no way there could be any Jackson DNA in either of those two, and I doubt he had anything to do with the third except for buy it.

	08-02-2003 23:09									#15
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well supposedly one of his wives agreed to have a child for him even though she didn't want to.

Anyways if you read the link above- apparantly if that is true- more than just sleeping together occurred.

But might I add that in certain foreign non-western countries it is normal for parent and child to sleep together until a relatively old age. It is only western fear against the oedipus (sp?) complex that tries to push people to avoid doing this.

	09-02-2003 01:17									#16
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I think you have to question whether a man in his 40's who wants to be "an eternal child"/Peter Pan should be having children.

	09-02-2003 03:48									#17
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Yes, why have an idealistic person raise children. We need more cynical hypocrites like Gloria Allred, (who incidentally was probably insulted by his tanning comment) to run our children.

Why have someone who can relate to their innocence?

It is not Michael Jackson who is sick.

It is all the people who seem to think it is impossible to sleep in a bed with a 12 year old boy, and not molest him, who are sick.

I believe Michael Jackson has never even had sex. His children are obviously not really his, but adopted.

It seems he has chosen to end his maturing at around 10 years old. He is rich enough to do it, he has gone through enough....

Who are any of you to judge?

	09-02-2003 03:53									#18
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i quasi-agree with NeoMega. People need to mind their own damn business. That is, everyone the media is gearing this towards. If there is an issue, the authorities will deal with it. Until then, everything is hearsay.

Christ, whether you're following gossip for the positives or the negatives doesn't matter - it's childish either way.

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Oh gawd. lemme guess, a libertarian.

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quote: Originally posted by orange i quasi-agree with NeoMega. People need to mind their own damn business. That is, everyone the media is gearing this towards. If there is an issue, the authorities will deal with it. Until then, everything is hearsay. Christ, whether you're following gossip for the positives or the negatives doesn't matter - it's childish either way.

And it's moronic to let him go uninvestigated by the DA while there are all these signs.

	09-02-2003 04:26									#21
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It's like the "Deaf Culture" thread all over again.

	09-02-2003 04:26									#22
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quote: Originally posted by Lonestar and (c) doesn't let his kids see their mother. On the show last night on of his boys told the interviewer he "doesn't have a Mummy".

I contend that any woman dumb enough to have sex with him should also be institutionalized.

	09-02-2003 04:27									#23
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quote: Originally posted by NeOmega Yes, why have an idealistic person raise children. We need more cynical hypocrites like Gloria Allred, (who incidentally was probably insulted by his tanning comment) to run our children. Why have someone who can relate to their innocence? ... It seems he has chosen to end his maturing at around 10 years old. He is rich enough to do it, he has gone through enough.... Who are any of you to judge?

Can you honestly not see that someone who, as you claim, has ended his maturing at 10 years old should not be the sole guardian of 3 very young children? Also, it's only because he's rich enough that anyone would look the other way. If he was some Joe Average schmuck, child welfare would be all over him.

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quote: Originally posted by Azazel Oh gawd. lemme guess, a libertarian.

hardly. not in the floyd ramo sense, anyway...

Lonestar - I said the authorities should handle it. Everyone else should mind their own business.

	09-02-2003 05:09									#25
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MJ was very upset by the documentary. It was supposed to be his honest no-holes-barred story. In order to create this documentary, MJ let the interviewer have complete access to his life for several months. If he had anything to hide, why would he do this? MJ is upset because this interviewer has twisted everything around to make him look bad just to get a story and is basically lying because, being with MJ all that time, he must know the truth.

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quote: Originally posted by orange i quasi-agree with NeoMega. People need to mind their own damn business. That is, everyone the media is gearing this towards. If there is an issue, the authorities will deal with it. Until then, everything is hearsay.

We could always mind our own business in the same manner as with the Catholic Church...

	09-02-2003 05:24									#27
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How exactly was the story "twisted" when you heard MJ flat out say A) he's only had two operations on his nose, and that's it; B) sleeping with little children is a beautiful thing; C) he identifies with Peter Pan.

I think the reason MJ gave unrestricted access is because he actually believes that he is normal. He didn't give any indication during the interview that anything he does might be rediculously extravegant, completely non-sensical, or just plain wrong.

	09-02-2003 05:57									#28
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quote: Originally posted by Azazel Oh gawd. lemme guess, a libertarian.

You should become a detective.

	09-02-2003 06:06									#29
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It is obvious those allegations of molestation were brought against him because some selfish American "parents" saw an opportunity to profit off of Michael Jacksons generosity towards the kid.

The denial of plastic surgery? Shock value... sells records, keeps him in the headlines. I guess most people are still missing his point... Everyone contiues to say he is a balck person, or a man, and make assumptions about him based on that. He is striving to be simply a human..... no race no gender.

YOU WANT TO KNOW WHAT IS SICK?
Gloria Allred, wanting all children who have spent the night at Jackson's house to see Child psychologists....
THAT'S SICK!
Those peopel will say anything and suggest anything to those kids to make some headlines, and a little bit of cash. They are charlottans.

And I'd rather have Michael Jackson raise my kids if I died than George Bush, Bill Clinton, Jerry Falwell, George Clooney, Alec Baldwin, Rush Limbaugh, Al Gore, Diane Feinstein, Hillary Clinton, Orrin hatch, Tom Brokaw, Dianne Sawyer, Barbara Walters, Celine Dion, Alan Jackson, Dr. Phil , Oprah Winfrey, Dr. James Dobson, Tony Blair, John McCain, Shania Twain, Brittany Spears.... etc., etc., etc.....

	09-02-2003 12:29									#30
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John Mccain- you'll pay for that coment