12-02-2003 18:31									#1
	Hut Finder v1.4 Browse Apolyton AD-FREE

Try this one for size.

Changes from 1.3

- The 'notation' information is now correct

- Options take effect immediately

- Menu amended to make 'Shrink Me' more obvious - it is still only available once the "Windows | Always on top" selection has been made

- Minimise button returned - with nag if you have not saved your latest information

- oedo tables included

- rah button now available - see "Options" tab - allows the original co-ordinates to be changed

New in 1.4.3

- no longer need to delete old coordinates

- limited schematic scrolling now available

Health warning:

The oedo tables for levels other than deity have not been verified, but are correct as far as the received wisdom of this forum can make them.
It is not hard to make changes to them so if any errors are discovered post or PM me.

SG[1]

Version 1.4.2 was downloaded 57 times
New version 1.4.3 uploaded 18/03/2003

Attachment: hutfinder143.zip
This has been downloaded 113 time(s).

Last edited by Scouse Gits on 18-03-2003 at 19:12

	12-02-2003 18:39									#2
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Does it allow you to reset the original seed coordinates? I really liked that feature and have been using an older version since I didn't want to give that up.

	12-02-2003 18:42									#3
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No - but I cannot understand why you might want to.

Please explain and I will make modifications to accomodate if possible...

The current thinking is that once a hut has been found the seed is calculated once and for all - after all it cannot change during a game - and any other locations can be accessed via the search co-ordinates

SG[1]

	12-02-2003 19:05									#4
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In MP games you've just entered the coordinates and the host finally let's you know he has a tech and you're restarting. We don't allow using it during your turn so you want to get the coordinates in fast if a hut appears in your opening screen so you can get a look before your first turn.

Or in a 2 or 3 man game, we have been known to restart when one person has a particularly bad start. And sometimes when two players start just a few squares from each other.

It's not that big of a thing, but the convienence of being able to change it is enough for me not to have upgraded. If no one else see's any value in it, please don't change it on my account. I'll just stick with an older verson. My brother commented on it once. I really haven't talked to anybody else about it.


RAH

	12-02-2003 19:25									#5
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Version 1.4.1 (with rah button) coming up...

SG[1]

	12-02-2003 19:29									#6
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A couple nits (constructive criticism mode ):

1. Why do you have an About button and a Help/About pulldown that do exactly the same thing?
2. I was taught to write dates as, e.g., 1750 B.C. and A.D. 1000. Apparently Brian Reynolds agrees with that convention, since in-game dates use that format.

Overall, a very well-done program. I'd say something sarcastic about the guy with the white hair, but I'm afraid I'll look like that in a few years when my kids are teenagers.

	12-02-2003 19:35									#7
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Dave

1) consistency - this is the 'Bill Gates Way'
2) OK - no sweat - I'll change it

last - my research students swear that it is a true likeness!!!

SG[1]

	12-02-2003 19:59									#8
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quote: Originally posted by Scouse Gits Version 1.4.1 (with rah button) coming up... SG[1]

You're a saint. It will be nice to have the oedo years for AD, since I only have the B.C. ones memorized. And take advantage of any other new features that you come up with.

Thanks.

	12-02-2003 20:08									#9
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New version 1.4.1 is now in the original post - please re-download if you have the previous one.

rah - when you first open Hutfinder click on Options and select "Use rah button" - it will warn you that you can lose data - but the new button will appear next to Continue - if you need to change seed click the rah button and the data entry values and the Continue button will become active again -- I couldn't bring myself to make it permanent - if you change once more you will need to hit rah again...

Come to think of it I quite fancy hitting rah again

SG[1]

	12-02-2003 20:14									#10
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New new version 1.4.2 now in original post

Sorry Dave I misunderstood your first point - the offending About... button has now gone the way of all flesh - to be honest I had forgotten it even existed and dates from the earliest version that had no menu bar

SG[1]

	12-02-2003 20:20									#11
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3 versions in less than 2 hours??

You're really customer-focussed, aren't you??

	12-02-2003 20:20									#12
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We aim to please

SG[1]

	12-02-2003 20:43									#13
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quote: Originally posted by Scouse Gits We aim to please SG[1]

You must be even less busy at work than I am

	12-02-2003 20:47									#14
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SG[1] fyi

When I d/l the new version it is still 1.40. Perhaps the replace function is balky??

Monk

	12-02-2003 21:23									#15
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Strange - just got home and d/led from the boards and it's fine 1.4.2 - although explorer reports it as 1.4.0.2 if this explains your problem????

SG[1]

	12-02-2003 22:08									#16
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quote: Originally posted by Scouse Gits Strange - just got home and d/led from the boards and it's fine 1.4.2 - although explorer reports it as 1.4.0.2 if this explains your problem???? SG[1]

1.4.0.0 is the version I got after a d/l from the boards in the top post, 1.42.zip. There are only 3 d/l's. Maybe someone else will d/l and report.

And I'm just reporting what I get. I don't think that makes it MY problem. Especially as I deleted everything, d/l'ed again, and still get 1.4.0.0. And there is no rah button.

Monk

	12-02-2003 22:58									#17
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I guess I must be the third download. Both the opening screen and the help/about declare the program to be version 1.4.2.

	12-02-2003 23:27									#18
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Just tried again. Still get 1.4.0.0...in all notations (explorer, about, splash screen), even the zip says 1.40, not 142 as noted on the board. This is very strange.

Not that 1.400 is unwelcome. It is very cool and meets my needs just fine. Thanks!!

I just thought you might want to know, SG[1].

Monk

	13-02-2003 00:30									#19
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Aha - you are being fooled by a local cache!
If you look above there have only been 3 d/l - one is mine, one is DaveV's there cannot be two of yours...

SG[1]

	13-02-2003 02:20									#20
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quote: Originally posted by Scouse Gits Aha - you are being fooled by a local cache! If you look above there have only been 3 d/l - one is mine, one is DaveV's there cannot be two of yours... SG[1]

Brilliant. Good 'catch'.

I had d/l'ed the original 1.4, earlier in the day.

I have my settings at never refer to cache, but, I have been running 27 days w/o a restart and the cache was full. This may be another bug in XP?? This problem did not surface on d/l of previous versions, but the cache was not full before. With the setting at never, it should not have happened; but, it did. Page loading at this site only, has gotten very slow lately as well.

So, it was MY problem after all. Thanks for all your help.

Monk

	13-02-2003 03:03									#21
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quote: Originally posted by rah You're a saint.

I don't know about that...

But...

THANK YOU!

	13-02-2003 03:21									#22
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Just downloaded it and tested it. FANTASTIC.

Thanks. The rah button option made my day.

The next time I'm hiring programmers..........................

And no more fumbling in my wallet for my oedo card.

RAH

	13-02-2003 07:24									#23
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lol we all have bc years memorized, its the agonizing ad years after some sauce where i mess my revolts...

i will dl this before saturday and give it a whirl..

well done SG(s) perhaps entry in to the HOF is in order..even if you are ruining our exploration aspect of the game

	13-02-2003 08:48									#24
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Very nice job [1] I can never remember the Oedo Years after 1AD

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SG(2)

	13-02-2003 10:57									#25
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I just love when the SG's talk to themselves

	13-02-2003 12:09									#26
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You can't afford me rah, but on second thoughts if you can ....

Thanks (2), Warz, Ming, Monk et al

Yes Ming - so do I - perhaps we should petition you to change our handle to ++ Scouse Gits ++

Me a ; doesn't really fit the RAR persona ...

SG[1]

	13-02-2003 15:23									#27
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Nice one SG.....I will debut this when I play my succession turns.

	13-02-2003 16:32									#28
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I'd say, "Thanks, Doc", but Uncle Ming would spank me for spamming so I shan't .... oops!

SG[1]

	13-02-2003 16:34									#29
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Now get SG(2) to chide you on your behaviour.

	13-02-2003 16:35									#30
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More seriously, this would not have been possible without all your incredibly valuable input...

Thanks to all you guys in the ACS community

SG[1]