16-02-2003 10:39									#151
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quote: Originally posted by paiktis22 Odin, killed or expelled. 1 million of them made it out to Greece. Scores of others were massacred. Also 1.5 Armenians were massacred by the Turks on that time frame. 1st genocide of modern 20th century. Azazel, ah but that's what we have the immigrants for Oh and... Go Intifada

WTF! Seriously, I've swiched sides, LET'S BASH SOME TURKS!!!

	16-02-2003 10:57									#152
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quote: Originally posted by Azazel And actually, I was to a pub, a disco, a coffee shop. But arafat wasn't.

I was cuious why you were here, I figured a student
between running compiles/drafts. Your sad not tonight
friday seems to me a nose hard to the grind stone.
GO FOR NOW, it will pay deviends the rest of yer life.

I took the wife to the Valentine's dance, Good time
before, and after , After she fell asleep i nipped in
here for a couple of paticakes pancakes and
off to the "Central" ,Good house tonight, got a
"Ozz!!!!" as I walked throught the door. Great crowd!
Great friends, Good fun and alot of laughs.

Please forget my spellin' I'm 3 sheets to the wind.
(I walked their. and I wakled back)

If I may

Shalom

And Yes, Ming, This si spam!! Happt Valebtines
to you and yours

Goodnight

	17-02-2003 19:20									#153
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quote: Originally posted by VetLegion What about those already in Greece? Almost a million I hear. Mostly criminals I read. What about them?

I have been absent for some days since I am preparing for the Cebit but this thread is so much fun . I will start with commenting this post as I just started reading the thread.

Well, a few years ago I read in a Greek newspaper that this is just a falacy. A lot more crimes were attributed to "immigrants" than anybody could prove. As for raw numbers Greeks had commited far more crimes than foreigners! I must say though that in our village we started locking doors after the "invasion" of Albanians.

Now had the - as always- incompenetent Greek gov't taken the extra step to legalize/register them from the beginning there would have been as many problems!

So long...

	17-02-2003 19:25									#154
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quote: Originally posted by VetLegion quote: The "honourable war" comment was not for the Albanians but for the Graico-Turkish crisis of 1996. You would lose that war and you know it. As it is, Greece buys more weapons than it's economy can support. If you continue like this you will go bancrupt.

We've been bancrupt since day one! SO it wouldn't make much of a difference!

Loose, NO!!! A lot of the Greeks believe that they count for more than ten Turks!!

So long...

	17-02-2003 19:28									#155
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quote: Originally posted by VetLegion Says I. About 5% of Greek GDP is EU donations. When donations stop, and they will stop soon, you wont have any money left to buy weapons. Not to mentin Turkey has 500 000 soldiers that could parade in Athens within a week of your war. Parthenon still standing, they will finish the job

Well, the biggest problem would be that all our politicians wouldn't be able to builld villas any longer!

That wont be as easy because Turks have a lot to fear from their eastern borders.

So long...

	17-02-2003 19:30									#156
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quote: Originally posted by VetLegion Also, in your honest opinion, do majority of Greeks have same views as you have? About Turks and Albanians?

NO!

	17-02-2003 19:31									#157
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quote: Originally posted by VetLegion It's a fassion issue Giovanni, dont take it personally. Black Greek monks (dark side of the force ) cant stand the way Pope dresses in white. I m sure as soon as some sort of clothing agreement can be reached, we will se a reunion of christians

Now that's very very funny!

	17-02-2003 19:35									#158
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quote: Originally posted by Palaiologos Hey, Giovanni many Greeks happen to be ultra-orthodox. remember what happened the last time Pope visited Greece. Millions in the streets protesting against him. Catholicism is still blamed for the fall of the City and the fourth crusade.

That has been another of our trait!!! Always blame somebody else for your own fate.


So long....

	17-02-2003 19:44									#159
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quote: Originally posted by VetLegion I have to go, but can we draw some conclusions? - greeks want everyone out but filtered, educated cadre that is in short supply can get in. such as grenland beach volley players or ski experts from chad. - greeks need albanians, but they treat them like inferior savages and use them as scapegoat minority - greeks want preemptive war with all their neighbours, but claim they are not paranoid, dont keep grudges and are a factor of peace and stability - greeks are not religious fanatics, yet they raise millions against the poor old Pope, a feat Iran would accomplish with difficulty - greeks whine about EU but they happily thake their money and they whine about USA but happily buy USA weapons discuss I mean, you can learn a lot from Apolyton, about other cultures and stuff

Spot on, although that second point you've made is common to all countries Western or Eastern, Rich or Poor, etc.

What's most welcoming is EU's money. We were bashing on all the EU countries but we sure loved their dough!

What do you expect from a country that voted as PM one that served in the US army and when he came back he becaming popular by wanting the US Bases out of the country!?!

So long...

	17-02-2003 19:56									#160
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quote: Originally posted by Palaiologos One has yet to explain why i must like the albanians ant turks. Their ancestors killed my family in asia minor and their descendants are posing as Greece's pimps.

Well for one thiing it has a kathartctic effect on you if you leave the past behind you. On the other side with that kind of thinking we should all be at war with eachother. Worse, we should be killing eachother in our own countries as I've lost ancestors in the civil war that ensued after WWII. Oh yes a little OT note on this: We seem to like fighting eachother when all others went go into peace gear!!!! This is a very silly argument and very dangerous!

So long...

	17-02-2003 20:10									#161
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quote: Originally posted by paiktis22 Odin, killed or expelled. 1 million of them made it out to Greece. Scores of others were massacred. Also 1.5 Armenians were massacred by the Turks on that time frame. 1st genocide of modern 20th century.

Now that is what the Turks have a problem with too. They tend to forget their atrocities, which were horrendous, worse than the Nanking incident in China right up ther with the Nazis. But like the Japs they tend to have a hazy memory when it comes to taking responsibility for their -beyond description- horrendous actions.

You see Greeks talk tough, then join the "right" side of a conflict and when everybody else moves on they stay behind either whinning about it or killing eachother. BUt they have never commited atrocities the way some others have.

Anyway time to move on....

So long...

PS: Gia sou Paikti, so do you like my avatar?!

	18-02-2003 02:38									#162
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Asxeto, alla auto to koritsaki pou exete gia avatar oi dio sas eine i idia;

pia eine an epitrepete;

	18-02-2003 02:42									#163
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Cool, a hellenithreadi

	18-02-2003 12:29									#164
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quote: Originally posted by Palaiologos Asxeto, alla auto to koritsaki pou exete gia avatar oi dio sas eine i idia; pia eine an epitrepete;

Her name is Alizee and she's the sweetest pop singer. She's french.

Best regards!

@Spiffor, I know it's really cool!

So long...

	11-03-2003 03:11									#165
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Sweet Jebus, between Paitkis, G(R)EEK and Palaiologos, I wish I weren't an atheist so I could get down on my knees and thank God I wasn't born Greek. The sheer, blinkered hatred spewed by those three is enough to make me want to take a shower to get the filth off. How can any of you face the day with hearts filled with so much bitter bile? Doesn't it weigh down your souls? Don't any of you have the slightest idea how pathetic and sad you all seem?

	11-03-2003 03:20									#166
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NOOOO NOT THIS THREAD AGAIN.

Why did you do it , ubergeek, why?

	11-03-2003 03:27									#167
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I had discretely ceased to post in this thread, since that would get us nowhere.

I agree with Azazel.

And BTW Ubergeek i can hate and dislike whoever i want for my own foolish and evil reasons.Its none of your buisness.

End of discussion.