13-02-2003 00:30									#1
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There was a discussion in a PTW thread under the same name. That discussion has gotten however tottaly off-topic(last thing people were discussing was the originds of coffee) and have therefore decided to continue this conversation in this off topic thread.


I too agree with Avaton's position that the fault lies withn the Greek state and not the albanians themselves. The Greek goverment should never have allowed them entry in the first place.

Most albanians are criminals by nature, not by by their social and economical problems. The Greek leaders should have forseen that and the problems they would later cause when they immigrated in HUGE numbers to
"rich" Greece.

But what could one expect from politicians who prefer a dishonourable peace to a honourable war. Like they have ever done military service themselves. Just about when we were going to surpass the Turks to military armaments they cut down the funds for the army to finance the Olympic games. The original funds for the Olympic games had been spent to buy villas and cars for their spoiled sons.

	13-02-2003 00:38									#2
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quote: Most albanians are criminals by nature, not by by their social and economical problems.

Sir, what size would you like your black uniform?

(and no I don't think he's batman )

	13-02-2003 00:43									#3
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This is hilarious

And I thought this Greek was moderate... who did I confuse him with hmmm

	13-02-2003 00:44									#4
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They have been living off raids their whole history. Illyrians, Ottoman albanians, modern descedants. It is in their culture not in their genes. It is considered a pride among them to steal something of value.


The SS uniform is something modern lefties should wear, since their views are far more fascist and bigotrous(?) than "Evil Capitalists".

	13-02-2003 00:46									#5
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I fail to understand why we should accept so many foreigners in our state. Croatia and Israel have no immigrants and can not possibly understand it.

Israel can hardly tolerate native arabs.

	13-02-2003 00:47									#6
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Go away.

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maybe with the Pioneer... uff doesnt matter you are all the same


Tell us more Palaiologos, what should be done with Albanians that are in Greece now? Should they stay?

Should more be allowed in? How about the families of the ones that are here...?

	13-02-2003 00:48									#8
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then don't use the words "by nature".

I wonder where is paiktis to protect him.

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quote: Originally posted by Osweld Go away.

A real democratic view.


However all i have done is expressed my dislike of albanians BECAUSE CONVERSATION BROUGHT IT UP, and i am immediatelly branded as a nazi.

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quote: Israel have no immigrants

wtf


but I agree with you that criminals should be sent back

	13-02-2003 00:55									#11
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Hey I dont think you are a Nazi! But please elaborate a little, will you? I dont quite understand what you are proposing as a solution...?

Come on, open up, we are all ears

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quote: Israel can hardly tolerate native arabs.

Is this some sort of disguised ad-hominem?

Don't disguise them, parade them blatantly, like I do.

	13-02-2003 00:56									#13
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quote: Originally posted by Palaiologos However all i have done is expressed my dislike of albanians BECAUSE CONVERSATION BROUGHT IT UP, and i am immediatelly branded as a nazi.

Let's see... in your first few posts in the off topic you:

1) Make rascist remarks.

2) Say that greece should not tolerate foreigners in it's country.

3) Call for war.


And you are surprised that you get compared to a nazi?

	13-02-2003 01:00									#14
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Osweld, really

Don't be so hostile



Pala(etc) so what do you suggest? Who should Greece go to war with?

And what about the Albanians, what should we do with them?


Dont be affraid to express your opinion!

	13-02-2003 01:04									#15
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How about "sending them to the east"?



damn, this is fun.

	13-02-2003 01:05									#16
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The "honourable war" comment was not for the Albanians but for the Graico-Turkish crisis of 1996.


As for the Albanians they should be "filtered" and only allow entrance to those with the skills nessecary for the growth of the greek economy, scientists etc...

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quote: Originally posted by Gangerolf wtf but I agree with you that criminals should be sent back

I mean foreign immigrants. Syrians f.e.

Not jews from other countries.

	13-02-2003 01:09									#18
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What about those already in Greece? Almost a million I hear. Mostly criminals I read. What about them?

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Edit: Double post.

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I thought a great many of the Albanian women were hotties. Big boobs and tiny everything elses.

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The quality of our Greek posters, these days. They're almost as bad as Americans.

	13-02-2003 01:12									#22
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There are lots of immigrants in Israel.

many just come here to work, many not.

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quote: Originally posted by VetLegion What about those already in Greece? Almost a million I hear. Mostly criminals I read. What about them?

Well, "filter" those too.

Are you trying to force me into making a specific comment?

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quote: The "honourable war" comment was not for the Albanians but for the Graico-Turkish crisis of 1996.

You would lose that war and you know it. As it is, Greece buys more weapons than it's economy can support. If you continue like this you will go bancrupt.

	13-02-2003 01:14									#25
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Says who?


Even so an honourable defeat in war is preffered to an dishonourable peace.

	13-02-2003 01:16									#26
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quote: Are you trying to force me into making a specific comment?

Hell yeah! So you think they should be expelled. You are Greek and you can think whatever you want and do whatever you want with your country, I don't understand why you are affraid to say so.

	13-02-2003 01:18									#27
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quote: Originally posted by Palaiologos Graico-Turkish crisis of 1996. As for the Albanians they should be "filtered" and only allow entrance to those with the skills nessecary for the growth of the greek economy, scientists etc...

Name a neighbour Greece likes, or even doesnt hate:

Albania - no
FYROM - no
Turkey - no
Bulguria- I doubt it

Don't get trampled by the mobs of Albanian Scientists
pouring over the Greek border.

	13-02-2003 01:20									#28
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quote: They're almost as bad as Americans

I agree.

	13-02-2003 01:22									#29
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Says I. About 5% of Greek GDP is EU donations. When donations stop, and they will stop soon, you wont have any money left to buy weapons.

Not to mentin Turkey has 500 000 soldiers that could parade in Athens within a week of your war.

Parthenon still standing, they will finish the job

	13-02-2003 01:22									#30
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I had posted the Greek "hate list" with

1.Albania
2.Turkey
3.FYROM
4.Bulgaria
on the other PTW "Salonka" thread.

It got me a threat from Ming warning me of a possible ban.