21-02-2003 09:57									#1
	Recommendation for Minister of the Interior Tired of ads?

Candidates:
BigFurryMonster
E_T
Dominae

The Consuls would like to know who is favoured by the people prior to making an appointment to this important position.

Please vote in this poll and feel free to discuss the issue in this thread.

The poll will last 48 hours, after which the Consuls will announce an appointment.

	21-02-2003 11:01									#2
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Vote BFM!

	21-02-2003 12:29									#3
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Vote Dominae

Seriously ... you should.

	21-02-2003 12:47									#4
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As I plan to have Dominae as my Vice Minister, a vote for me would be a vote for him. THis is also true, in the reverse....

Anyways, I've already posted some threads and my most recent one here. I'm working off of a spreadsheet, to help me to optimize any Micromanagement and build/worker plans. I can change several options of builds and worker effects in a relatively short time, with this sheet.

I plan on working closely with my Vice and any City Govenors that are appointed (if we decide to have them). My main plan is growth, but not without insuring that we stay militarily strong. Our Worker Force will also be Optimixed, so as to be as efficient as possible.

E_T

	21-02-2003 13:01									#5
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Dominae, hands down, without even knowing whom he'll appoint as Vice Minister.

	21-02-2003 13:13									#6
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quote: Originally posted by Sir Ralph Dominae, hands down, without even knowing whom he'll appoint as Vice Minister.

FYI: His intended appointment for Vice Minister is E_T. E_T's intended appointment for Vice Minister is Dominae.

	21-02-2003 13:24									#7
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win win then. Dominae seems to really know the ins and outs of micromanagement. And he ran that test. So he has my vote.

	21-02-2003 13:47									#8
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hi ,

, ....

may the best one win

go BFM

have a nice day

	21-02-2003 17:38									#9
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Very close at the moment! 8, 6, 7!

	21-02-2003 17:55									#10
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I know E_T and BFM, they both have the skills for the job.
I don't know Dominae very well, my experience in Poly is in the C3DG, but he's obviously (by the people supporting him ) prepared for the job.
So... it's a tough decision.

	21-02-2003 18:00									#11
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There you have the silly appointing issue I told you about...
One person appoints the one who appoints him and the other way around. Holy cow...

Wouldn't vote for any of them, do vote for BFM !
It's a rap lyric...

	21-02-2003 18:01									#12
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Some suggested I hold a speech here.

Well, I'll keep it short.

This is why you should vote BFM.

	21-02-2003 18:16									#13
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I dug the spreadsheet. The other two can do it as well, though. But they are gonna appoint eachother as vices without any other involved in the decision, so I voted BFM.

Just made a slogum for you:

- Stay with the superior, BFM for the interior.

	21-02-2003 19:30									#14
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Nice spreedsheets BFM!

However, during E_T tenure in the SPDG I found his micromanaging very impressive and extremely anal (something that is very much needed in the interior). I have even said in the past that I would support him for this post. Unfortunately, I have read new information that changes who I support.

Dominae has NOT shown us spreadsheets upon spreadsheats. He HAS proven (to me at least) that he doesn't even need them. The post that he has made in referance to the interior has made me believe that BFM's and E_T's spreadsheets come naturally to him. Lets put a "natural" into office.

Vote Dominae!

	21-02-2003 22:01									#15
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Whatever the other candidates are capable of, BFM is much more than spreadsheets, I assure you.

Well, it looks like the consuls will have to pick this one... It's apparent Apolytonia supports all candidates here.

	21-02-2003 22:57									#16
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I just posted some more stuff in the build plans thread. Spreadsheets and other stuff.

E_T

	21-02-2003 22:59									#17
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Since the voting is of now evenly split among 3 candidates, I'll take this opportunity to provide a short speech:


Members of Apolyton!

Some Civ3 critics say that the game is nothing more than glorified unit movement, that all you need to do to win is be a bloodthirsty warmonger. Perhaps the Apolyton Team will decide to be such a bloodthirsty warmonger. But the critics are wrong! True success in this game is built upon a strong economic foundation. War and diplomacy play their part, but each are easier with a strong production and commercial base.

Thus I step forward to take on the great responsibilty of Minister of the Interior. Many silently ask: "Who is this Dominae?", "Is Dominae male or female?", "What does he/she know?", "Why is he/she better than the other candidates?". I can only offer a definitive answer to the second question (PM me).

But I can attempt to answer the third. My experience in the Strategy forum here at 'Poly in the past year or so has taught me many things about the game, things which we can leverage to our advantage. 'Poly is where all the good strategy either begins or gets refined. Although I am no expert by any means, I am aware of all the issues and know where to turn to find a reliable information.

I am not afraid to micro-manage, since I believe this tool is a powerful one in the early stages of the game. But I am afraid to alienate other Citizens and the Consuls with too many technicalities. Thus I am committed to deep analysis, but to-the-point reporting.

I am also committed to working as a team. I promise to look over and test out all economic options, and attempt to refine the one the team decides upon, be it hordes of Mercs. or the Great Library. As I said, I am no expert, and will rely heavily upon the input of everyone on this team. Only in this way will the Consuls' decisions be truly informed.

Although we probably will not be going to war for some time, we will be fighting a battle from turn 1: an economic battle. I hope to advise the Consuls so that they may see us through to victory.

Apolyton!


Oh, and let me say that the other two candidates are excellent choices. In fact, if I lose this poll, I'll be happy since our team will still be in good hands and I'll have more time for RL.


Dominae

	21-02-2003 23:09									#18
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Wow. I have never seen an exact three way tie in a DG before. (10-10-10, as I write this)

Perhaps instead of a "Minister of the Interior", the Consuls should create a "Ministry of the Interior", and appoint all three to it. There isn't much to plan right now, but as we all know from other games, it will grow very quickly.

I don't know if this would be acceptable under the constitution, but I don't really care either - we should do whatever is best for the game/team!

	22-02-2003 00:06									#19
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10 BFM
10 ET
10 Dom
1 Banana

All right, who's the person who wants to hire the AI governors in all our cities to manage all worker force allocations and builds?

	22-02-2003 00:11									#20
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quote: Originally posted by dejon Wow. I have never seen an exact three way tie in a DG before. (10-10-10, as I write this) Perhaps instead of a "Minister of the Interior", the Consuls should create a "Ministry of the Interior", and appoint all three to it. There isn't much to plan right now, but as we all know from other games, it will grow very quickly. I don't know if this would be acceptable under the constitution, but I don't really care either - we should do whatever is best for the game/team!

It's up to the consuls to decide what to do.

However, as was presented in the other thread, having co-ministers means that there's no one who can make a flat-out decision, which could weaken the ministry as a whole.

	22-02-2003 00:16									#21
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Is it bad form for me to vote in this poll? I have not voted yet...


Dominae

	22-02-2003 00:19									#22
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Just vote for who you think will do the best job.

	22-02-2003 00:25									#23
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Didn't we have a FAM election in the C3DG a few turns ago where both candidates decided to vote for the other person?

	22-02-2003 00:27									#24
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Dominae: Sure you vote for yourself, who else?

	22-02-2003 00:29									#25
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quote: Originally posted by joncnunn Didn't we have a FAM election in the C3DG a few turns ago where both candidates decided to vote for the other person?

That's usually what happens, as a sign of respect for the other candidates.

	22-02-2003 00:44									#26
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I voted Banana, as I wish to observe the result of the voice of the people before I have my say.

	22-02-2003 05:22									#27
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Well... my vote for Dominae is done with mixed feelings... I certainly think he's up for the job, but I hate to see him spend less time on GS because he got another responsibility to take care of

As to the others: sorry guys, don't know you that well. Most likely you would do just fine as well.

DeepO

	22-02-2003 05:27									#28
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quote: Originally posted by DeepO I certainly think he's up for the job, but I hate to see him spend less time on GS because he got another responsibility to take care of

It's begun already, I've checked the Gathering Storm forums only once in the past two days! Seriously, I think Gathering Storm is well-staffed, and with me away from GS a bit (assuming I get appointed here) there will be less toe-stepping going on.


Dominae