23-02-2003 06:22									#1
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"BORN ON ANGRY SOIL"

He walks alone through the imaginary island
Taking in all that is beautiful.
He imagines there is peace, he imagines there is love
As he fills his island with his dear ones.
His movements are gentle, his thoughts pure and innocent
This child born on angry soil.

His imaginary island is the only place he is free
In his real world there is nothing beautiful
There exists no peace, there exists no love
He has been torn away from his dear ones.
Yet, his movements are gentle, his thoughts pure and innocent
This child born on angry soil.

His oppressor's children play on real islands
While he sits alone and weeps.
He wonders when he'll laugh, he wonders when he'll live
As his world falls down around him.
Still, his movements are gentle, his thoughts pure and innocent
This child born on angry soil.

"TRAPPED"

Trapped inside myself, longing with desparation for the time to come when I shall feel no pain
Aching with hunger for the unfulfilled desire of pleasures never known unto me
Freedom to simply be
without permission
without supervision
without the constraints of emotional blackmail.

Haunted by dreams, resigning myself to the knowledge that I cannot escape
Confused by the messages passed thru me of things yet to be
secrets from the past
warnings of the future
confused by my role as the character yet unknown.

The shackles around my feet grow tighter now, cutting into my flesh as I try to step forward
Determined to perservere even as the steel draws closer to bone
unable to accept my sentence
unable to give in and admit to what seems inevitable.

Tortured by the irony I force myself to endure, waiting for the hopes buried in my dark side to come to light
Pained by the reality that I must live inside my imagination
For what is outside of that is not life
but a perverted nightmare.

Hating myself for being forced to be the kind of person I've always despised
One who denies his own feelings and suppresses his yearnings because he's too tired to run
Wanting so much for someone to see the real truth
so I won't be alone
alone in my pain
alone in my longing
alone with no home.

Frustration overwhelms every waking moment, thoughts of..
what could have been and what should have been
what could be and what should be..
flood my mind
despite endless efforts to deal with what is.

Speaking between the lines, I wait for a glimmer of understanding from someone who cares
Waiting to be assurred that that someone exists
but that is hope against hope
still hope's all I've got left to cling to...

"IF I HAD THE EAR OF GOD..."

If I had the ear of God I would ask him to give my mother her son back he was only nine.
If I had the ear of God I would ask him to give my father his olive grove back he was just about To harvest it.
If I had the ear of God I would ask him to give my brother his arm back it was small but it was One of only two he has.
If I had the ear of God I would ask him to give my sister her husband back
He went to work last week and never came back.
If I had the ear of God I would ask him to give me a road to school they
Shot at us on the last one we took.
If I had the ear of God I would ask him for a sea of chocolate in heaven so
My little sister can have all the chocolate she wants she was only four.
If I had the ear of God I would ask him to give my friend his mother back he
Is only seven and cries all the time.
If I had the ear of God I would ask him to destroy all the camps in a
Hurricane so we would not have to live there any more.
If I had the ear of God I would ask him for a chance to keep my head held
High and not die with my face in the gutter like my father.
If I had the ear of God I would not ask him for sympathy only a rock and a
heart.

"HOW CAN THEY STILL GO ON..."

Tell me what do you see in that crying child's eye?
The one standing by the rubbles and blood, surrounded by wails and crys
Can you see the delicate hand peaking from beneath the ruins?
That was his mother's, but now he's alone with only the desperate moon
The air is thick with sadness, death, and little songs of sorrows
How can they still go on and live until tomorrow...?


"WHO AM I?"

Who am I you ask?
I do not exist
I have no country
No home
No passport
No land
Who am I you ask?
I do not exist
I have no future
No past
No path
Who am I you ask?
I know who I am
I know where I came from
And where all my loved ones have gone
I had a mother she wept day and night
For a son she had that never made it home
She is at peace now
I had a brother he died
He made his last stand with a stone in hand
I had a father that taught me to fight
With gun, with stone, with might
Who am I you ask?
I know who I am
I have this card
NRWA card number 8425
Who am I you ask?
I have no name
I was made in Dair Yassen
I was made in Sabra
I was made in Shatela
I was made in Jennen
And I will not forget
And I will not falter
I will walk out of my camp
With head held high
Kill if you will
Here I make my stand
Kill if you will
Here I make my stand

"WATCH ME BLEED"

Come, my brother, enter herein - enter my life.
You wanted to know, you wanted to see - come, taste my strife.

You speak of peace so easily - not knowing my war - not feeling my pain.
Your "justice for all" is only "justice for few" while the guilty remain.

You want us to put our weapons down, while their weapons persist.
For you - easy talk. For you- food, family and freedom exist.

It might make you feel good to speak out on aggression and say that you care.
But that does not give you license to make my decisions while I am not there.

You set up your conferences to "educate others" on our situation.
Yet, you pick your own speakers to represent us while we lose our nation.

You say you are with us and convince all around you it is peace that you seek.
You say you will listen, you say you will hear us, but you won't let us speak.

And you with the peace signs, organizing your marches, please only yourselves.
You think your good thoughts can alone change the world like your signs on the shelves.

You must face reality You think it is simple - it simply is not.
Reality is watching your land taken away and your relatives shot.

Two fingers up does not stop a bullet and make everything right.
Righteous indignation does you no good if you won't see the light.

You ask lots of questions, but won't hear our answers about what we need.
The only thing left is for me to invite you to come watch me bleed...

"FALL MY CHILDREN"

Fall my children; keep him warm as he departs
cover him from the bitterness of this cold air
for I knew him, and his father before him
he was but three summers when he first climbed upon my old arms
as his father has done many winters gone
his mother left him here before, although he was not cold then
for it was high summer in Palestine and summers here are sweet
she left him as she picked tobacco from the field yonder
he crawled then too though his progress was not arduous
now she leaves him once again for the last time
so cover him my children for now he dies motherless
he dies fatherless
he dies landless
cover him my children lest he leaves this world friendless
for he has crawled here seeking the comfort of our touch and memories of a different time
a time when he did not know about the settlers over the hill
a time when he did not know the feel of a rubber bullet as it rips through flesh
a time when he did not know the feel of a bulldozer as it ripped through cement, home, and life
a time when he did not know the feel of being nothing, no one, no where
a time when he did not know the sound of a cold jail cell door crashing
a time when he was but three summers, playing as his mother picked tobacco in the field yonder
cover him my children he is cold and tired
cover him my children and give him peace
comfort him one last time as you comforted his father before him

"MY BELOVED LEFT FOR PALESTINE"

My beloved left for Palestine
Telling me he would be mine
He asked me if I'd wait for him
If he put his life out on a limb.

The phone went dead, the sirens blared
Throughout it all he was not scared
His final breath flowed from his chest.
Then the angels took him home to rest.

My beloved left for Jennatain
Leaving me to grieve in pain
I asked him if he'd wait for me
Until my soul was rendered free

Days turned into months and years
Throughout it all I still shed tears
Sighs of grief flow from my chest
O Angels, take me home to rest.

My babies left for Palestine
"We love you mommy, we'll be fine"
The soldiers came and razed the ground
They never even heard a sound

The missiles screamed, the sirens blared
But, across the ocean no one cared
A mother's grief stays in her chest
O Allah help me bear this test.

I long to leave for Palestine
And claim the love that once was mine
O Aqsa will you wait for me?
If I give my life to set you free?

I long to leave for Jannatain
And leave behind the grief and pain
Will Allah save a place for me?
Or will my deeds bring misery?

Days will lead to months and years
I ask for mercy through my tears
Sighs of grief flow from my chest
O Angels, take me home to rest.

"MY SWEET DAUGHTER"
In May 2001, Iman Hejo, 4 months old, youngest Palestinian ever to be killed by Israelis...

My heart is burning,
My homeland is sinking
In a sea of blood, we are all drifting

The Israelis aimed at my Sweet Daughter
My precious rose, the bullet pierced through,
Shocked I stare, your eyes are closed

My sweet daughter,
Seeing your toys, I will cry.
Your memories are everywhere,
As wide as the sky

In the morning, to your bed I will fly,
In the evening, I will wash your clothes,
To me, you will never die

Your smile, will forever shine
Your laughter will forever echo
in this heart of mine

I will extend my arms,
Lift you high in the air,
Hold you as tight as a teddy bear

See my empty arms!
As quietly I drop my head
And silently cry

I love you, I love you
I will always love you.
My precious child

Forever I will ask why ¿ why?
Why kill my four months old baby?
My sweet precious daughter,
Why ¿ why?

I will, forever weep,
My tears will never dry,
My heart will forever cry

If you are interested, more poems could be found here:
http://www.palestineremembered.com/...geBoard466.html

	23-02-2003 06:23									#2
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DL!

	23-02-2003 06:28									#3
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What does that mean "DL"?

	23-02-2003 06:30									#4
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It's part of a hazing ritual all settlers get in the Off-Topic area.

	23-02-2003 06:31									#5
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Do the DL dance.

Shimmy shimmy.

	23-02-2003 06:38									#6
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yup, starts posting in the OT and does something half-way provacative right of the bat, time to dance.

	23-02-2003 06:41									#7
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At 4:30 in the morning local time, no less. Nobody can be that pissed so early in the morning. Ain't natural.

	23-02-2003 06:42									#8
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Well, I've asked some guy in chat werether mideast politics are aplicable or not... He was called "Evangelian" or something like that, his nick made of few words. He said mideast politics aren't forbidden in those forums... BTW, what is "settler"? Are you reffering to the word bellow my nick? If so, how do I change it? I didn't seen any such option in profiles...

	23-02-2003 06:42									#9
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To all DLs.

	23-02-2003 06:43									#10
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DanS, I didn't even went to sleep :-)

	23-02-2003 06:47									#11
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quote: Originally posted by Abdul-Aziz BTW, what is "settler"?

Do you even know what this site is about?

ME politics isn't forbidden, but it has been beaten to death. On the other hand, an Arab perspective has been missing. You're outnumbered by a group of very nice Isrealis, but there are plenty of people here who support Palestine's right to self-determination.

	23-02-2003 06:51									#12
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There's even a few people who think its ok to fly planes into buildings.

	23-02-2003 06:52									#13
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I obviously know what this site is about, otherwise why would I be registered here? It is about Civilization computer game. At least it appears if you search for civ related words in search engines...

	23-02-2003 06:53									#14
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quote: Originally posted by Abdul-Aziz I obviously know what this site is about, otherwise why would I be registered here? It is about Civilization computer game.

Then you should know what a settler is!

	23-02-2003 06:57									#15
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Obvious DL. WHo comes to a civ site, heads straight to the OT, and start posting something controversial at the start. His name sounds like something someone would make up if they were trying to think of a middle-eastern name. People really ought to put more effort into their DLs- they ought to at least post enough in the on topic forums to get them up to Chieftain, post some non-controversial stuff on the OT first, then moving into the flamebait stuff.

	23-02-2003 06:57									#16
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Oerdin, what do you mean by that? I don't think that is OK because civilans got killed, but remember the attack was sheduled in the morning... If the only thing they wanted would be to destroy as many Americans as possible, they would have striked in midday. It was an atack on symbols (WTC - symbol of economy, Pentagon - symbol of strenght, White House - symbol of government), not on people, but, unfortunately, you couldn't destroy those symbols without many people dying. See, president was not even in white house when the attack occured. BTW, they could have done much more damage if they really wanted, by attacking military bases instead of penthagon, various buildings with lots of people instead of WTC, etc.

No, I do not justify Al Quieda, I've just said that killing people wasn't their prime target.

	23-02-2003 06:59									#17
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Shi Huangdi, Abdul-Aziz, if you don't know, was famous historical king. If someone would take nick "Ceasar", would that mean he is from Italy?

	23-02-2003 07:00									#18
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Killing people may not have been the main goal, but that doesn't change the fact that it was a massacre, an attrocity, just as much as if three thousand people had been marched out of town and gunned down in a ditch.

	23-02-2003 07:03									#19
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I was just pointing out you'll find people who support alsorts of things here. From the intelligent to the unintelligent.

BTW The attack happened a half hour after the typical start of a business day so it very much was planned to kill as many innocent people as possible.

	23-02-2003 07:05									#20
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I've just said that killing people wasn't their prime target.

I don't buy it. They wanted to kill as many Jews as possible. They just weren't smart enough to figure out that many New Yorkers don't get into the office until 9:30 or 10:00. Different schedule than the Mideast.

	23-02-2003 07:09									#21
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Chegitz, regarding to your previous post, I obviously know what settler is in Civ3. I however don't understand what has it to do with me or my nick... As I can see, other people has other words placed there... Is it some kind of word person chooses himself, or does it depends on post count or opinion or something else?

Oerdin, if it would have happened in middle of the day, even more people would get killed. Of course it was an attrocity but so are Israeli massacres in Palestine. And if not US support to Israel, sep 11 would have never happened...

	23-02-2003 07:11									#22
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Well, if they would be so dumb not to figure time, then they wouldn't have been able to create plans for attack as well. Some of the planners lived in USA themselves for quite a long time...

BTW, if they would have wanted to kill as many Jews as possible, they would have done this act in Israel, not in USA.

	23-02-2003 07:12									#23
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quote: Originally posted by Abdul-Aziz Chegitz, regarding to your previous post, I obviously know what settler is in Civ3. I however don't understand what has it to do with me or my nick.

It has to do with your post count. Posts in the OT don't count.

	23-02-2003 07:18									#24
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Abdul-Aziz, checkout the FAQ section of the site under the heading "Apolyton: Forum: Rules" part XVIII. That's the official description of the ranking system.

	23-02-2003 07:19									#25
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That he knows phrases like "post count" instead of choosing simpler words wich most ESLers would choice makes me even more suspicious he's a DL. Hmmm, he's a settler, he's awake and posting at 4:30am Saudi time (that's prime time for bored teens in the US), and that he mixes up simple language but knows internet V-Board phrases all confirms his DLness.

	23-02-2003 07:22									#26
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Oerdin, this is obviously not the first forum I am in... I previously posted on other forums about and not about gaming, like adventuregamers.com , etc.

I am not from Saudi Arabia, I chosen this flag just because i like this country and would like to live there. Although time is the same in my country also.

	23-02-2003 07:24									#27
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DRoseDARs, thank you for the link.

It seems I am half the way to chieftain, with 14 non-OT posts...

	23-02-2003 07:28									#28
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quote: Originally posted by Abdul-Aziz And if not US support to Israel, sep 11 would have never happened...

Bin Ladens main beef is the US's support of Saudi Arabia, not our support of Israel.

	23-02-2003 07:29									#29
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I was about to ask about that, if you'd posted elsewhere in the forums first before coming here (I hadn't checked your profile yet). But you do understand why the DL aqusations have been leveld, right? Most people start out posting in the on-topics before they notice the OT. But when someone brand-spanking-newly-registered starts posting in the OT, the hazing ritual begins...

	23-02-2003 07:32									#30
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Why do you want to live in Saudi Arabia? Family, religion, culture?

Yes, I live in the USA, but doesn't mean I expect everyone would. We have our problems, and sadly they're worsening...