26-02-2003 12:18									#181
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Let me put it this way. You do not get to that sliver of BC East of the Rockies without going through Alberta. Might be why they sometimes grumble about 'breaking off' and joining Alberta.

	26-02-2003 12:19									#182
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Sonny, that gray ain't the Alaska Highway.

Read the tiny black lettering that says

"Mile Zero"

Near Dawson Creek.

	26-02-2003 12:20									#183
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Right. And you can drive from Montana to Alaska without traversing Alberta.

OK. Sonny...

	26-02-2003 12:20									#184
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quote: Originally posted by obiwan18 Sonny, that gray ain't the Alaska Highway. Read the tiny black lettering that says "Mile Zero" Near Dawson Creek.

But there's no major highway from Dawson Creek down to the US. That major highway is through Alberta.

	26-02-2003 12:22									#185
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You can get to Dawson Creek in BC.

Here's what you do.

Drive to Vancouver,

Take Highway 99 all the way to PG, my hometown.

There is another Highway called the John Hart Highway that connects Prince George with Dawson Creek.

No need to touch Alberta.

	26-02-2003 12:25									#186
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quote: Originally posted by obiwan18 Mad Monk: Read the entire article. Yes, 1977, but you denied something like this ever happened. IF you don't like the source, find a better one that does verify your claim. Good luck.

Where precisly did I deny it? The way Che phrased it, it came off as some kind of environmental disaster that left nearly half the Island sterile.

	26-02-2003 12:25									#187
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Sure. If you want to drive with a mountain goat as your navigator over goat trails for a thousand miles.

If you want to get to Dawson Creek quickly, you'll head North to Edmoton, then vector towards Dawson Creek. 365 days of the year. Might be why Northern Alberta derived most of the benefit of building it. We could get there.

	26-02-2003 12:26									#188
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A source to confirm

http://home.gci.net/~mbaston/highway.html

	26-02-2003 12:27									#189
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quote: Originally posted by obiwan18 A source to confirm http://home.gci.net/~mbaston/highway.html

This is why they prefer the "straight and narrow" route through Alberta:


Who would want to drive that?

	26-02-2003 12:28									#190
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quote: Sure. If you want to drive with a mountain goat as your navigator over goat trails for a thousand miles. If you want to get to Dawson Creek quickly, you'll head North to Edmoton, then vector towards Dawson Creek. 365 days of the year. Might be why Northern Alberta derived most of the benefit of building it. We could get there.

Have you driven the route, NYE?

	26-02-2003 12:34									#191
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http://www.th.gov.bc.ca/bchighways/maps/bcmaps.htm

For an actual map, not a poor ariel picture of the river, not the highway.

See the highway between PG in the centre of BC to Dawson creek in the East.

Granted the route may not be as flat as the Albertan route, but that's what happens when you have to cross the Rockies.

Most people driving the Alaska Highway are looking for an experience they will remember, not a walk in the park.

	26-02-2003 12:35									#192
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quote: Originally posted by Asher This is why they prefer the "straight and narrow" route through Alberta: Who would want to drive that?

What's the matter? You can't drive in a straight line?

	26-02-2003 12:35									#193
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The main concern of the route is for semis, nobody really cares how tourists get there.

And the semis don't take rinky-dink BC small highways through the rockies...

	26-02-2003 12:36									#194
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quote: Originally posted by Tingkai What's the matter? You can't drive in a straight line?

You see them mountains, Tingkai? You know, the ones the road is heading towards?

Also take note of how thin the road is.

	26-02-2003 12:37									#195
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Asher, I hate to say it, but that really curly line is a river.

	26-02-2003 12:39									#196
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quote: Originally posted by obiwan18 Have you driven the route, NYE?

Have you, in January?

	26-02-2003 12:39									#197
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quote: Originally posted by Asher You see them mountains, Tingkai? You know, the ones the road is heading towards?

Yeah, and your point is?

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quote: Originally posted by The Mad Monk Asher, I hate to say it, but that really curly line is a river.

No kidding.
But the road looks to be a thin two-lane road, and heads into the Rocky mountains...

The thing about the windy road is a bit of a joke.

	26-02-2003 12:41									#199
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quote: Originally posted by Tingkai Yeah, and your point is?

You're driving an 18-wheeler.

Your choices are 1) Detour through BC on a two-lane road through the Rocky Mountains (remember Canadian weather)
or
2) Drive on a major highway through prairie in Alberta.

Which do you choose?

	26-02-2003 12:43									#200
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Two lane is correct.

How many lanes is the Alberta route in from Grande Prairie? I honestly don't know.

NYE:

Not a goat path is it?

	26-02-2003 12:45									#201
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Any Canadian with more than 2 rocks to shake in his or her head does not look forward to crossing the Rockies in the winter. It is potentially very dangerous.

They especially do not relish driving North through them instead of taking the tried and true, yet still dangerous paths from East to West or the reverse.

To suppose that driving North from Vancouver in January or February would be as safe, or as fast, as going through Edmonton would be the height of idiocy.

	26-02-2003 12:48									#202
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quote: Originally posted by Asher You're driving an 18-wheeler.

From where? If I'm coming from the east then I'll go through Alberta simply because its between me and the Yukon.

If I'm coming from the west coast, then I'll cross at Abbotsford, go along the One and up the Coq. then jump over to the 97 to Cache Creek and follow it up all way.

Most of the 97 is in a valley, IIRC.

	26-02-2003 12:53									#203
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quote: Originally posted by notyoueither Any Canadian with more than 2 rocks to shake in his or her head does not look forward to crossing the Rockies in the winter. It is potentially very dangerous. They especially do not relish driving North through them instead of taking the tried and true, yet still dangerous paths from East to West or the reverse. To suppose that driving North from Vancouver in January or February would be as safe, or as fast, as going through Edmonton would be the height of idiocy.

Man, you Alberta boys get scared off easily by a bit of mountain driving.

The roads from Alta to BC that go through the Rockies are a breeze. It's just like the T-C from Golden to Vancouver.

You want hard stuff, try the southern route along the five, particularly when you get stuck behind trucks.

	26-02-2003 12:54									#204
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I'm sure that all the truckers from the Eastern US will want to go your route, Tinkai.

Those that don't jack knife that is.

	26-02-2003 12:55									#205
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quote: Originally posted by Tingkai Man, you Alberta boys get scared off easily by a bit of mountain driving. The roads from Alta to BC that go through the Rockies are a breeze. It's just like the T-C from Golden to Vancouver. You want hard stuff, try the southern route along the five, particularly when you get stuck behind trucks.

No. Actually, this is people from BC. Care to shop your biggotry somewhere else?

	26-02-2003 12:57									#206
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quote: Originally posted by Tingkai Man, you Alberta boys get scared off easily by a bit of mountain driving. The roads from Alta to BC that go through the Rockies are a breeze. It's just like the T-C from Golden to Vancouver.

I can't tell if you're trolling or if you're really out there these days.

You lived out here once, haven't you? Don't you remember all the news reports in the winter about deaths, how the roads are closed a lot, that kind of thing?

	26-02-2003 13:06									#207
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quote: Originally posted by notyoueither I'm sure that all the truckers from the Eastern US will want to go your route, Tinkai. Those that don't jack knife that is.

Once again, you're not making sense.

So are you saying that truckers from the east would not want to go through Alberta?

Because I said that if I was coming from the east then I would go through Alberta.

Are you suggesting that going through Alberta will increase a truck driver's risk of jack-knifing?

	26-02-2003 13:09									#208
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quote: Originally posted by notyoueither No. Actually, this is people from BC. Care to shop your biggotry somewhere else?

You're seeing demons where they don't exist.

You and Asher are both boys from Alberta. You're both scared of mountain driving. There ain't no bigotry there.

As for going through the Rockies on the T-C, almost all of it is extremely sage, except for the last five miles before Golden.

	26-02-2003 13:10									#209
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quote: You're both scared of mountain driving.

Sorry, Tingkai, this has to be said:

You have to be a complete moron not to be worried about mountain driving in the winter through the Canadian Rockies.

Total and complete moron.

	26-02-2003 13:12									#210
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quote: Originally posted by Asher You lived out here once, haven't you? Don't you remember all the news reports in the winter about deaths, how the roads are closed a lot, that kind of thing?

You do know that driving anywhere in Canada during the winter can be dangerous. You want a bad area, try the 401 between Sarnia and London, or the 400 outside of Barrie.

Anyone who has done a lot of winter driving in all different parts of Canada will tell you that driving through the Rockies isn't that bad compared to some other parts.

And when the roads are not dangerous when they're closed, cause you can't drive on a closed road.