04-03-2003 02:53									#1
	WHY did the Japense goverment just run a telivision add on Fox news? Help yourself to an AD-FREE life

Anyone else see it?

It kept mentioning how the japenese goverment currently has 1600 U.n. peace keepers around the world and was a 2 minute commerical saying YEY FOR JAPAN!


HOWEVER it was a whole humanitarian angle, it wasent trying to encourage buisnesses to go there or anything.......I dont undserstand WHY they would do this type of advertisment-do many Americans dislike Japan?

I didnt think they needed to try to make their image better in the U.S......most americans like Japan, no?

	04-03-2003 02:57									#2
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Were you watching FOX for the humourous attempt at journalism?

	04-03-2003 02:59									#3
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I am watching Fox because I dont get BBC(which is my favorite news reporters.....I care more about global news instead of U.S. and the BBC usually covers global news better) except on the weekends and I dont like listening to ultra ultra ultra liberal propaganda on CNN or MSNBC.

	04-03-2003 03:00									#4
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FOX doesn't whine.

	04-03-2003 03:03									#5
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quote: ultra ultra ultra liberal propaganda on CNN or MSNBC

quote: FOX doesn't whine

	04-03-2003 03:05									#6
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quote: Originally posted by Vesayen I dont like listening to ultra ultra ultra liberal propaganda on CNN or MSNBC.

If CNN is "ultra ultra liberal" I must be alot more radical then I thought.


Edit: Darn, Frogger beat me to the lol.

	04-03-2003 03:05									#7
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but Fox also uses intelligence-insulting explosive and noisy graphics.

since when is CNN or MSNBC ultra ultra ultra liberal?

i can see liberal, but not ultra ultra ultra...

and for those of you complaining about liberal bias in the media, explain to me then, why Fox news is so successful, with its conservative bent? explain to me why, exactly, virtually all radio talk show hosts are conservative? or how the majority of popular newspaper columnists are conservative?

perhaps you ought to read this article, as well. don't worry, it won't turn you into a stark-raving mad liberal, it's just some food for thought.

	04-03-2003 03:08									#8
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The last time I checked, CNN was salivating for war to begin.

If that's "ultra ultra ultra liberal" then I'm sorry for the unfortunate worldview you've developed.

	04-03-2003 03:10									#9
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NOTE: I usually think anyone who labels someone a conservative or a liberal and hates them on that basis is a complete idiot-my views are VERY mixed but as far as news reporting goes I tend to side with the conservative media for my news-though I think Rush Limbaugh is an idiot.

	04-03-2003 03:14									#10
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liberal media is more of a myth propagated by the right than anything.

this is not to say that it does not exist; it's just that it's not as glaring as you might want it to be, or assume it to be.

if one had sense, and an actual appreciation for news, one would read all sides of the issue: meaning both the "liberal" and the "conservative" media, and play them off against each other-- allowing one to read between the lines at what both of them refuse to report.

	04-03-2003 03:18									#11
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Conservatives watch news and like the thoughtful discussion to be found on talk radio, that's why they do well, because we participate. Best I can figure is liberals aren't interested in news or discussion, so their stations fail. The liberals jump through all sorts of hoops to avoid admitting this basic fact to themselves.

The basic fact they can't miss however, is the numbers for CNN and FOX.

	04-03-2003 03:19									#12
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quote: The basic fact they can't miss however, is the numbers for CNN and FOX.

It just means FOX appeals to the lowest common denominator. Its the TV version of The Sun in that respect.

	04-03-2003 03:19									#13
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quote: the thoughtful discussion to be found on talk radio

quote: The basic fact they can't miss however, is the numbers for CNN and FOX

You mean how CNN slaughters FOX?

You've got a good sense of humour, Lancer.

	04-03-2003 03:21									#14
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More people get their news from FOX than from any other source.

	04-03-2003 03:23									#15
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FOX news only care about american news and nothing else

CNN.. I remember what they did show on 2001 New Year's Eve: a complete economic explaination of the advantages of Euro

	04-03-2003 03:24									#16
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Is FoxNews a serious news channel

I watched it once and there was a talk show on with the topic "Jihad Johnny" and later the talk show host was advertising Fox-merchandise and he also did a weather report while laughing hysterically

I couldn't find it on the satellite anymore after that.

	04-03-2003 03:27									#17
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i beg to differ. i consider myself a moderate liberal, and i enjoy watching, reading and thoughtfully discussing the news.

indeed, i find some talk radio to be interesting, and a fertile ground for discussion.

however, i've never listened to rush limbaugh; i've heard only sean hannity, and his oozing adoration for ann coulter has permanently soured any interest i may have had in regularly listening to him.

the reason why fox has made such gain is not because of its conservative-ness. rather, i believe it's because of its format; it's far punchier, more oriented towards sound-bites and clever reports. the interviewing style of o'reilly is more aggressive and shorter than the generally more relaxed attitude larry king takes.
this is also why conservative columnists and radio shows do better.
this is also why the so-called "liberal media establishment" has tried to adopt much of fox's format: from the punch, loud, and explosive graphics (see CNNHN), to the time-limited and aggressive interviews (see MSNBC's Hardball), and more sound bites overall.

which is why, alas, i've resorted to mainly reading print media and online media. less attention-grabbing, blaring, noisy graphics. less bites. more thoughtful reporting, with longer sentences.
it's a nice change.

	04-03-2003 03:28									#18
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I should say...More Americans get their news from FOX than from anybody else.

August, never saw anything like that on FOX.

	04-03-2003 03:30									#19
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quote: Originally posted by August Borms Is FoxNews a serious news channel

No, but unfortunately some people think it is.

	04-03-2003 03:31									#20
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Q cubed, yeah, those hoops.

	04-03-2003 03:31									#21
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quote: Originally posted by Big Crunch quote: The basic fact they can't miss however, is the numbers for CNN and FOX. It just means FOX appeals to the lowest common denominator. Its the TV version of The Sun in that respect.

Foxnews doesn't show boobs.

Frogger: FOX now does better then CNN in the rating.

Liberal whining aside, FOXnews is a respected journalism source.

	04-03-2003 03:33									#22
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Osweld, fortunately MOST people think it is.

	04-03-2003 03:33									#23
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quote: Originally posted by Shi Huangdi Foxnews doesn't show boobs.

I never said it did. I said it appeals to the lowest common denominator.

	04-03-2003 03:35									#24
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Wow, this thread stayed on topic for a long time...

There goes another Japan thread down the toilet.

	04-03-2003 03:35									#25
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ABC claims to be America's most watched News source. "Where more Americans get their news."

	04-03-2003 03:38									#26
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Drake is right. Why would Japan make a feel good about us commercial?

Maybe they want us to feel good about them and buy more Hondas?

	04-03-2003 03:40									#27
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I'd have to see the commercial to give an informed opinion. The Japanese are extremely concious of face and image, but advertising in the US seems a little much, even for them.

	04-03-2003 03:48									#28
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quote: Originally posted by Vesayen Anyone else see it? It kept mentioning how the japenese goverment currently has 1600 U.n. peace keepers around the world and was a 2 minute commerical saying YEY FOR JAPAN! HOWEVER it was a whole humanitarian angle, it wasent trying to encourage buisnesses to go there or anything.......I dont undserstand WHY they would do this type of advertisment-do many Americans dislike Japan? I didnt think they needed to try to make their image better in the U.S......most americans like Japan, no?

Japan isn't exactly supposed to send troops outside of its own borders, under the post-WW2 constitution. China and SK (IIRC) have been complaining about Japan's involvement in peacekeeping missions.

Betcha this ad has something to do with that.

	04-03-2003 03:49									#29
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Haven't seen the Japan feel-good commercials. They've been playing Saudi Arabia and Canada ( ) feel-good commercials on Washington TV lately. Kuwait took out some feel good thank you advertisements in the Metro post-9/11.

This is "public diplomacy".

	04-03-2003 03:59									#30
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quote: Originally posted by Frogger The last time I checked, CNN was salivating for war to begin..

They made a lot of money from the last one.