13-03-2003 22:36									#211
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quote: Originally posted by paiktis22 what facts? you dont even know about the case.

Exactly, what facts

Neithier do you, that what makes this thread a trollfest.

Bang away!

	13-03-2003 22:42									#212
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quote: Originally posted by paiktis22 and this is about britain's unheard of supression of freedom of expression lest you'd forget... attacking me is about you.

It's hard to forget when you say nothing but the UK is facist just about everytime you post. Somewhere along the way you have lost perspective on things. It's sad because there really are serious issues that can be discussed without some crazy sounding person throwing around the facist charge in every post. Your approach needs a lot of work if you ever want to be taken seriously. Next time try not to call an entire people facists before they are allowed to respond.

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Spray, I have no doubt he knows all of that. It's been mentioned to him before. He's not after serious debate.

Are you, Pattycakes? Where's the fun in that, right?

-Arrian

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unlike you, i know about the case.

whereas for example the facts about the people taking photographs of military instalations were there asnd noone questioned them,

what is the reason for this arrest and upon what is it based?


asnwer, according to both brit and greek sources: books.

and a dissenting to the brit "crown" opinion.

and you keep attacking me

	13-03-2003 22:47									#215
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seeing their responces, i wasnt very far off, now was I

but i wonder why you support fascist views instead of democratic ones.

taking trolls for granted of course.

so?

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quote: Originally posted by Arrian Spray, I have no doubt he knows all of that. It's been mentioned to him before. He's not after serious debate. Are you, Pattycakes? Where's the fun in that, right? -Arrian

He's just trolls in the hope ... I'll post.

	13-03-2003 22:53									#217
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you're always entertaining ozz in your hazy uk worshipping

	13-03-2003 23:03									#218
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quote: Originally posted by paiktis22 you're always entertaining ozz in your hazy uk worshipping

That's just you sweet talkin' , you just like my posts
for the old style Canadian-english phrases i use.

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They go to waste since I dont understand them but by all means get them off your chest

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arrrggghhh

There might actually be something to discuss when all the facts of the case are known . . . interesting legal issues and the problems of balancing security of the massess against individual right

But this thread -- lets just say that I have my first ever poster that I plan to ignore

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i'll have my cat cry


the day you grasp the meaning of freedom of expression let me know

untill then britain remains the democratic pariah of europe and a frightened 25 year old is still locked in their dungeons with no reason at all

i dont know what terrorists have been attacking the UK but they have won judging from that "law" and you can keep "discussing"

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	14-03-2003 00:07									#222
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quote: Originally posted by Flubber arrrggghhh There might actually be something to discuss when all the facts of the case are known . . . interesting legal issues and the problems of balancing security of the massess against individual right But this thread -- lets just say that I have my first ever poster that I plan to ignore

Try again after April 9th, that is the current court date.
Franky I have a real interest in this too, I doubt "books"
are all that are involved, after 50 years of IRA dealings
I'd suspect a strong case has been built before the
arrest occured.

	14-03-2003 00:08									#223
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No case at all.

The fact that IRA is still operative should tell you something.

I dont think any other country has such failures in combatting terrorism like britain does.

No surprise there.


And just have a glance at their "law" and you'll see what everyone sees.


They can arrest you because teh "Crown" doesnt agree with your opinion.

ANd base this on laughable evidence (namely books in this case)

	14-03-2003 00:11									#224
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quote: Originally posted by paiktis22 I dont think any other country has such failures in combatting terrorism like britain does.

I would remember the warning about glass houses and stones if I were you.

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quote: Originally posted by paiktis22 They go to waste since I dont understand them but by all means get them off your chest

Ah, you understand them , you hit them like a pike snappin' up a frog.

	14-03-2003 00:12									#226
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huh?

like i said keep getting them off your chest.


DD our success is obvious.

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quote: Originally posted by paiktis22 DD our success is obvious.

Sure it is.
* DinoDoc pats Zorba on the head in the most patronizing way possible

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LOL

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And all that without compromising our democratic values

some sods should do well to learn from us.

	14-03-2003 00:21									#230
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quote: Originally posted by paiktis22 And all that without compromising our democratic values

It only took several decades for you to stop being a terrorist haven in general and for your police force to actually get off its arse and do something about 17N in particular. Good show!

	14-03-2003 00:23									#231
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quote: Originally posted by paiktis22 The fact that IRA is still operative should tell you something.

That terrorists hide out in other countries like Ireland,
USA and Greece?

	14-03-2003 00:23									#232
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as said I still wait for you to get a clue DD

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quote: Originally posted by Ozz That terrorists hide out in other countries like Ireland, USA and Greece?

LOL yeah and they drink dublin whiskey in our beaches

that the UK has been utterly ineffective in countering it, of course. great success in criminalizating the expression of opinion though

what a country

	14-03-2003 00:31									#234
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getting serious for a moment there's only one thing that bug me in the items found in that student.

allegendly a seal of 17N and a proclamation..
Was that an original proclamation?
this is importnant but I dont count on brit police to realize that.

these are the 2 things that, if not planted (not extrordinairy seeing brit police practice), are serious stuff.

still you dont proclaim you support 17N if you're involved in it


the brit polcie should have realized that

as i said another fiasco from the pioneers of the genre.


and a kid locked up in their stinking dungeons.

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quote: getting serious for a moment... *snip* as i said another fiasco from the pioneers of the genre. and a kid locked up in their stinking dungeons

Yeah, real serious there Pattycakes.

-Arrian

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more than you obviously

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quote: Originally posted by paiktis22 allegendly a seal of 17N and a proclamation..

Oh, REALLY!!!

Two pages back it was just books, now it's a seal identifying him as a member of a terrorist organization and a proclamation.

quote: Originally posted by Ozz I'm just here to watch you snack back on crow, that is after you get yer foot out of yer mouth. Can't wait for the 9th

Seems like i only had to wait til Mar 13th

I'm with you Flubber

	14-03-2003 00:50									#238
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We already know what deviant Greeks do with their candles; we'd better stop them before they come up with even worse crimes.

	14-03-2003 00:50									#239
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LOL if you ve been paying attention you'd realize that he was doing his PhD on 17N and if you actually knew something about the case you'd know that he's been visiting defence lawers of 17N for material.


youd also have ralized that you dont have posters of 17N in your room and people seeing them freely, if you were involved in the group and speak freely about it.


3rd and based on this you'd realized that the arrest was because of what he believes.

and the "law" that permits that.


whos the clueless here?
and whos up for serious discussion

just lost your chance

	14-03-2003 00:57									#240
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besides this,
youd also have noticed the word allegendly
as well as the propability of planting this "evidence"
which anyway can be acquired through means already explained.


you'd realized your focus should be on his proclaiming freely his admiration of 17N and the "law" that lets people be prosecuted for that in your little britain.

caphiche my dear?

this is called a fiasco or a fascistic practise.

take your pick and stick with it.