06-08-2004 10:27									#241
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quote: Originally posted by Beta I know. There is absolutely no logic behind my argument whatsover. I am being nostalgic. I need that link to the past to hold onto. And we do need a palace guard - don't we? What happens when jon miller comes in after a night of drinking?

Okay, we'll keep at least one.

	06-08-2004 10:54									#242
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After a short PM to Vondrack about potential email difficulties I was having here is a note I sent to him about the workers

quote: Ah good. I think I forgot to mention that we will be keeping our own 2-turn pump active for a while. 8 of those first 15 workers needed will be to get that city up to size 12. I haven't decided yet how I want to work it since our pump city is also the one that can potentially grow to size 19. Adding workers is the quickest way, but I'm not sure I want 15 workers hanging around sucking gold while we build them and then a hospital. I think for now I will have the pump shut off when we have the first 15 workers (and a few more to hang around for emergencies) and then work on building the three hospitals. Rhoth

	06-08-2004 20:31									#243
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And Vondrack's response.

quote: Building 8 workers is a matter of 5 turns maximum for us - and as we are going to keep ~15 workers around for pollution cleaning duties, we should be able to send you 8 at any time. Agreed on keeping the pump active until you reach the pre-hospital maximum populations in your other cities. Once you're there, shut it off and start the hospital. We will supply the workers you'll need once you are done with the hospital. Summing it up, it seems you will need our "newly built" workers for 8 more turns (enough to produce 4 workers of your own and 8+4 of ours). OK, I'll keep that in mind. Unless something urgent/unexpected comes up here in Legoland, the worker supplies should be quite steady - 3 workers every 2 turns. Cheers, Radek

	10-08-2004 21:30									#244
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Message from Vondrack

quote: Hi, guys! > You're up. Our worker joining went well. Our output is now 402 > beakers at 100% science with a 78 gold deficit at the moment. > Espionage will come next turn. We'll also be picking up some 200 extra gold thanks to the joining. > :-D Yay! The numbers sound awesome - that's Flight in 10t! You may be small in area and handicapped by its roughness, but I believe your impact will be far bigger than what one would expect. Anyway... be so kind and keep your research at 100% until you discover Flight. We shall see afterwards - we will probably time your research of the Amphibious Warfare so that its discovery coincides with our own discovery of Radio (last industrial tech). We will keep sending 220g... at least for two more turns. We shall see then - while doing Atomic Theory, we might need to slow down a wee bit, not sure about that. On another note... GS is probably up to something. Not only they went average strength vs. us in 1080AD, but they have most probably become #1 in Mil. Service this turn (we've fallen to #2). There is more than one potential target, but I feel it will be us and/or you to get the blow. Do you have a bulletproof naval screen in your Western Ocean? We probably look a bit weaker militarily than we actually are, as we are not yet upgrading our rifles (just building new infantries), but the next about 20 turns should be crucial. That's the only window of opportunity GS will have to fight us with at least some advantage (tanks vs. infantry). Not sure if others attack us at the same time, too... with our falling powergraph curve, they may actually become more scared of GS than of us. Well... Mass Production in 2t, right on schedule. Take care, Radek aka vondrack Legoland

	10-08-2004 21:39									#245
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My response

quote: Hi Radek, We'll keep on going at 100% science. As to GS, they cannot get by in the west without being seen. The north is another matter however so just this past turn I sent one of our newer units to cover the west to be able to send an old caravel up to cover the northwest. In another few turns we'll be able to cover the northeast too to spot GoW attacks. Hmm, just had an idea. Now that we're about to hit size 12 in many of our cities we need either a luxury, an entertainer, or the lux slider to maintain the happiness in our cities. I don’t really want to get another of our stockpiled luxury options quite yet so I am using entertainers at the moment, but I wonder if I should ask GS for one of the luxuries they owe us. If they refuse then we'll know what's up. If they give it to us and attack later then they're reneging on a deal and will catch some nastiness in the main forum. Our new settler will be finished soon as well so that emergency city we had talked about will be ready if needed. Jared

	10-08-2004 21:46									#246
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quote: If they give it to us and attack later then they're reneging on a deal and will catch some nastiness in the main forum.

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	11-08-2004 02:43									#247
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quote: Hi Jared, > We'll keep on going at 100% science. Good, thanks. Just this one tech and we'll be happy to let you slow down... but The Flight is of a principal importance to us. It's the hammer we need to properly welcome any invaders. > Hmm, just had an idea. Now that we're about to hit size 12 in many of > our cities we need either a luxury, an entertainer, or the lux slider > to maintain the happiness in our cities. I don't really want to get > another of our stockpiled luxury options quite yet so I am using > entertainers at the moment, but I wonder if I should ask GS for one of > the luxuries they owe us. If they refuse then we'll know what's up. If > they give it to us and attack later then they're reneging on a deal > and will catch some nastiness in the main forum. This is actually an excellent idea. 20 turns is a loooong time (we'll be entering modern times in ~20t) - not sure if it is wise to keep saving the lux option(s) "for later times". IMHO, the game will be decided in ~40-60 turns maximum. I am going to post your email in our forum and ask other guys what they think, but as for me, I believe it's just plain brilliant. BTW - how many such options do you have stockpiled? > Our new settler will be finished soon as well so that emergency city > we had talked about will be ready if needed. Great. Our caravels-to-be-upgraded-to-transports are already on their way to The Legoon. Everything should be in place within ~5 turns (well, at least the first 3-4 transports... but that's 24-32 units to be transported in case of an emergency). Take care, Radek

	11-08-2004 02:47									#248
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And my response

quote: Hi Radek, That sounds good. I will wait to contact GS about the luxury item until after our next turn. It would look a little suspicious if we did it right now, and I want it to look natural. We have five more options stockpiled with ND, and two with GS. Hmm, that's actually enough to keep us going without need for the lux slider for roughly 50 more turns counting what we have going right now. I'll definitely be asking them for a luxury item then. Jared

	12-08-2004 06:01									#249
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And Vondrack's response

quote: Hi Jared, > That sounds good. I will wait to contact GS about the luxury item > until after our next turn. It would look a little suspicious if we > did it right now, and I want it to look natural. > We have five more options stockpiled with ND, and two with GS. Hmm, > that's actually enough to keep us going without need for the lux > slider for roughly 50 more turns counting what we have going right > now. I'll definitely be asking them for a luxury item then. Fine - other folks in Lego were of the same opinion. We will hardly gain any information we could rely upon (after all, even GS can learn a trick... they sorta owe you a nice little backstab, right? , but it is worth trying. And if you are fine for 50 turns... well, then you better start using all those luxes, as the world be very different in 50 turns. Take care, Radek

	16-08-2004 21:25									#250
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quote: Hi, Jared! > Thanks for the workers. Gathering Storm did send the luxury item so either > they aren't planning anything directly against Vox or they are planning a > betrayal. :-) As to flight, the ETA is now 9 turns like I thought. I was unable to counter with dyes this turn - not an option yet. I have sent twice as much of everything this turn (gold+workers) and will not send anything next turn, to avoid messing with the lux deal. Just repeat the offer this turn, please. Mass Production with you, too. Nor Flight, nor Amphibious Warfare discovered by anyone else yet. Few things: Would you block the entrance to The Legoon (S of Memory), please? Anything, even an obsolete caravel would do. If you have nothing, I will send a galleon of ours. Subs will soon come into play and we do not want anyone to see our emergency naval link to/from Voxtavia. How many units of yours still to upgrade? I am getting worried... a war is coming... very, very soon. GS went strong vs. us this turn (GoW went average, ND remained weak). They must be building army/navy like crazy. GS' Mfg. Goods is now outside our range (1000+). There are only 2 possible targets - us/you and ND. While I'd not completely dismiss the possibility of a blitzkrieg attack at the weak ND, I am 90% sure it will be us. We'll be upgrading half of our rifles next turn and are switching most production to military. We've got a lot of units to upgrade, even if our upgrades are less costly than yours (mostly rifles to infantries). It would help to know how much gold you still need to modernize your remaining defenders (forget the MIs, usem them as cannon fodder only - upgrading them would be waste of gold, we better spend the gold on our upgrades). Sorry for not keeping better records, but it's easier to ask you than to have yet another spreadsheet... Flight in 9t sounds great - I do not think speeding the research up any more would be that important (and possible), so I am considering sending no more workers for the moment and focus on our own cities instead now. How many pop points you could still reasonably use ATM? Cheers, Radek

	16-08-2004 21:46									#251
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My response

quote: Hi Radek, I will repeat the offer this coming turn. Sounds good about Mass Production. We intend to have a few battleships roaming the waters too. :-) We can block the lagoon entrance. We have a couple new destroyers coming out the turn after next. One of those should be able to be the first one there. Also, the settler for that link will be finished this coming turn. We have about 8 pikemen left to upgrade, two of which we can do ourselves with the gold windfall we got from adding all those workers the turn before espionage was finished. I disbanded the remaining Immortals we had as they are useless and their lone upgrade is essentially useless now too (though Beta convinced me to keep one as a palace guard for old times sake ) Most of our production right now is military, with the exception of Eternity and Panama Vox who are finishing up universities. I plan to build some naval units and then follow it up with more artillery and infantry. As to flight, speeding the research isn't possible within the time frame. We will have two universities soon, which will give all our cities but our pump city the maximum science output possible for them, but they won't make all that much difference for this technology. If you need to focus on your own cities then do so. We need 9 more pop points to get to our pre-hospital maximum, 8 of those will go into our pump city Hope. I'm planning on getting those workers, and then doing a mass joining to go from size 4 to nearly size 12. Our pump city doesn't have the infrastructure to support that size quite yet, but it can get up there pretty quickly. Thanks, Jared

	17-08-2004 01:13									#252
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quote: Hi Jared, > I will repeat the offer this coming turn. Sounds good about Mass > Production. We intend to have a few battleships roaming the waters > too. :-) OK, cool. > We can block the lagoon entrance. We have a couple new > destroyers coming out the turn after next. One of those should be > able to be the first one there. Also, the settler for that link > will be finished this coming turn. Fine, that's soon enough (GoW was lacking Mass Production last turn, 1110 AD, so they should not be able to sneak a sub through the strait before you block it). One of our ferries is already anchored W-NW of Port Hammer, another two shall join her this coming turn. Then one more one every other turn. > We have about 8 pikemen left to upgrade, two of which we can do > ourselves with the gold windfall we got from adding all those > workers the turn before espionage was finished. I disbanded the > remaining Immortals we had as they are useless and their lone > upgrade is essentially useless now too (though Beta convinced me to > keep one as a palace guard for old times sake ) This is good news. Considering I have sent you 400g this turn, that's 2 more upgrades. 4 to go. After establishing that lux deal, I'll keep sending gold enough to upgrade 1 pike every turn. Means we should be done in ~5 turns. That should be ok. The war is hopefully to begin not THAT soon. KEEP IN MIND YOU WILL GET NO GOLD FROM US NEXT TURN (in 1130AD). > Most of our production right now is military, with the exception of > Eternity and Panama Vox who are finishing up universities. I plan > to build some naval units and then follow it up with more artillery > and infantry. Great, exactly what's needed. > As to flight, speeding the research isn't possible within the > time frame. We will have two universities soon, which will give all > our cities but our pump city the maximum science output possible for > them, but they won't make all that much difference for this > technology. If you need to focus on your own cities then do so. We > need 9 more pop points to get to our pre-hospital maximum, 8 of > those will go into our pump city Hope. I'm planning on getting > those workers, and then doing a mass joining to go from size 4 to > nearly size 12. Our pump city doesn't have the infrastructure to > support that size quite yet, but it can get up there pretty quickly. Alright... not sure if you considered the 4 workers I have sent you this turn. It would be great if you attached a brief info on your progress to every save. We are keeping at least 10 workers around and producing approximately 2 new ones every turn... and so far, pollution has been nice to us. So helping you to your maximum population should be easy once you need it (after you finish the necessary infrastructure in Hope). In the meantime, I will be adding our new workers to our cities. It's mostly to raise our gpt income, to pay for new units entering the service. No big deal spt-wise. Cheers, Radek

	17-08-2004 01:32									#253
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And my response

quote: Hi Radek, Okay, we should be upgrade 4 units this turn then, with only a few more to go. All of our new land units will be infantry and artillery so no need for upgrade afterward. As to workers this turn, if you have sent 4, then I will likely start a marketplace in Hope next. One can go to finish our other city out to size 12. Hope can grow one size in the next two turns and can then join the three remaining workers to get to size 8 which is about the max without a marketplace. At size 8 with shields maxed Hope is a near 20 shield city so it won't take too long to get the marketplace in. Once the marketplace is finished then we can get it up to size 12, but that is mainly for extra commerce. So probably this is the last bit of workers we could handle for a few turns. I'll keep you informed of when we might need the remaining ones, though in truth Hope can get up to size 12 quickly enough as it is our breadbasket city with the most food and a granary. Jared

	17-08-2004 21:09									#254
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And the final bit from Vondrack

quote: Hi Jared, > Okay, we should be upgrade 4 units this turn then, with only a > few more to go. All of our new land units will be infantry and > artillery so no need for upgrade afterward. Perfect. I am already arranging for the last ~500g to be sent soon. We might slow/stop our own research for about 2 turns to put some upgrade funds together (for both of us). It seems that getting to tanks may be a question of getting there in the first place, rather than getting there 1-2 turns faster. We shall need loads of infantry and artillery to pin invading tanks/infantry down - and to upgrade all our rifles and cannons, we simply need more than we can put together while researching 4t/5t techs and supporting you with 200+gpt. > As to workers this turn, if you have sent 4, then I will likely > start a marketplace in Hope next. One can go to finish our other > city out to size 12. Hope can grow one size in the next two turns > and can then join the three remaining workers to get to size 8 which > is about the max without a marketplace. At size 8 with shields > maxed Hope is a near 20 shield city so it won't take too long to get > the marketplace in. Once the marketplace is finished then we can > get it up to size 12, but that is mainly for extra commerce. So > probably this is the last bit of workers we could handle for a few > turns. I'll keep you informed of when we might need the remaining > ones, though in truth Hope can get up to size 12 quickly enough as > it is our breadbasket city with the most food and a granary. Excellent. Until further notice, I am going to use all our new workers for our own cities. Those 4 workers you will need for Hope (if at all) should be no problem. Radek

	19-08-2004 06:20									#255
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Sent to Lego with the save.

quote: You're up. I heartily dislike the way the diplo screen doesn't let a non-gpt deal automatically continue if you want it to continue...and then automatically sends you into revolution without it. The dyes ran out on us this turn. I had to go through the cities to keep the size 12 ones after the first from all revolting on me. Oh well. I sent a new 1gpt-unaccepted for dyes. The one I sent last turn ended up being part of the deal to get all those workers and gold to us. No big deal. Speaking of that, my numbers of upgrades were faulty. I didn't have the save open at the time and was thinking that all the upgrades were pikes. Actually only half of them were. The remaining four are caravels which don't really need to be upgraded since we're not planning any intercontinental war. So that means, thanks to your help, we have all of our military upgrades finished as of this turn 1120ad. Rhoth

	19-08-2004 20:33									#256
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From Vondrack

quote: Hi, Jared! > You're up. I heartily dislike the way the diplo screen doesn't let a > non-gpt deal automatically continue if you want it to continue...and > then automatically sends you into revolution without it. The dyes ran > out on us this turn. I had to go through the cities to keep the size > 12 ones after the first from all revolting on me. :-( Oh well. Yeah, it's annoying. Just like so many other nuances of civ3... Blessed were the times I was ignorant of all these bugs and exploits. > I sent a new 1gpt-unaccepted for dyes. The one I sent last turn ended > up being part of the deal to get all those workers and gold to us. No > big deal. Well, perhaps it WAS a big deal after all. We have been hit by a bug, not having the turn-to-turn surplus gpt added to our coffers. As this messed trade with you was the only unusual thing happening, I suspect it's the culprit. Did you receive the gold I thought I sent you? Exactly 400g? That's the only error I can think of on my side... sending a different sum from what I wanted to send... > Speaking of that, my numbers of upgrades were faulty. I didn't have > the save open at the time and was thinking that all the upgrades were pikes. > Actually only half of them were. The remaining four are caravels > which don't really need to be upgraded since we're not planning any > intercontinental war. So that means, thanks to your help, we have all > of our military upgrades finished as of this turn 1120ad. :-D )) Now, this is some great news (for us). Coupled with the fact that GS traded Atomic Theory to someone (prolly GS), we all of a sudden need almost a thousand gold less for our operations. You can hardly imagine how good news that is for us. We may be the prime commercial power of this world, but there are so many bills to pay... Let me know whether I messed with the gold or not, please - I will inform Trip so that he does not spend his precious time uselessly. Thanks, Radek

	19-08-2004 20:34									#257
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And my response

quote: Hi Radek, As to the gold, you actually sent us 620 gold. There was one sum of 220 gold and one sum of 400 gold. Sorry, but I thought you meant to send it all or I would have sent some of it back if you needed it. Looking at the screen again this morning...mass production showed up twice so what I assume is that you sent it, the 220 gold, and two workers, and then sent it again with the 400 gold and four worker (two of which were the same). On the plus side though, we won't need any more gold except for the sum to keep us running at 100% science. Jared

	19-08-2004 21:55									#258
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From Vondrack

quote: Hi, Jared! > As to the gold, you actually sent us 620 gold. There was one sum of > 220 gold and one sum of 400 gold. Sorry, but I thought you meant to > send it all or I would have sent some of it back if you needed it. > Looking at the screen again this morning...mass production showed up > twice so what I assume is that you sent it, the 220 gold, and two > workers, and then sent it again with the 400 gold and four worker (two of which were the same). Duh, idiot me... There is no need to send the gold back, we are keeping a healthy cash reserve. 220g is not going to mess it for us. It's just that I was missing 200+g in our accounting books. Glad to hear it's not another bug. BTW - what is your cash reserve ATM? > On the plus side though, we won't need any more gold except for the > sum to keep us running at 100% science. OK, cool. I will not send anything but the luxury this turn, but from 1130AD, it'll be 100gpt, steady funding until the discovery of Flight, ok? Then you will continue with Amphibious Warfare, but a bit slower, so that you don't need extra funding (we'll see how our own cashflow will work out). BTW... checking the techtree, I noticed Flight dropping down 10% in research costs this turn - GoW must have discovered it and undoubtedly sent it to GS, so it should be down 10 more percent next turn. Just attach a note to the next save, please, quoting the new ETA on Flight. Take care, Radek

	19-08-2004 21:56									#259
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And my response

quote: Hi Radek, Our gold reserve is just a shade under 500 at the moment. Sounds good about flight and amphibious warfare. I'll check our ETA next turn. Jared

	21-08-2004 03:38									#260
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	30-08-2004 20:55									#261
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Message from Vondrack

quote: Hi, Jared! (and Bruce > You're up. Flight in 3. Great, looking forward to it. Atomic Theory in 3t here, too. Then 4t Electronics and 4t Motorized Transport. This is now a pretty much set schedule, unless the war breaks out earlier - which is likely, though. But we may stay on that course anyway, as almost all our military has been upgraded by now and we do not have pressing shortrush needs. I have moved the ferry fleet from W-NW of Port Hammer INTO Port Hammer this turn after realizing that as long as there are no units of ours on Voxtavia (which is not going to happen until you get attacked), it's not necessary to keep the ferry fleet there - we better anchor it in Port Hammer, so that the ships can bring troops in and move back out to the sea (to W-NW of Port Hammer) on Turn 1, being ready for both bringing more troops in or giving the units a lift back to Legos on Turn 2. As mentioned above, we have upgraded pretty much all of our military. Still weak vs. GS, though (and average vs. GoW). GS have a formidable military (top secret! we now have a spy with them)- but I guess we'd be able to face it on our turf with reasonable chances. RNG would rule the day, I guess... One last thing - be so kind and mention everything that moves within your sight. Amphibious Warfare not discovered yet, but once it is, it will be fast - we have got few important tiles not covered, which are in "your area of influence"). Namely - the area NE of Memory (though there is no direct threat to Port Hammer, thanks to your DD blocking the entrance to The Legoon. Well, that's about it. I will try to keep you posted. Be so kind and tell me when you no longer need the extra funding. We could use few more gold pieces to upgrade the remaining few units and plop some spies around... Take care, Radek

	30-08-2004 21:34									#262
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My response

quote: Hi Radek, Once we have finished flight we will head onto amphibious warfare like we had talked about. We can fund our own little empire and only knock off a few turns of research so we won't need the extra funding at that time. That's fine about the fleet in the Lagoon. I'll soon be attempting to block it further, but in a way so as not to raise suspicions that we have something important going on in there. That's interesting that GS military is so large. It looks like things are heating up and could get interesting soon. Jared

	08-09-2004 02:22									#263
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From Vondrack

quote: Hi, Jared! > Flight to you. We have begun amphibious warfare at a reduced rate to be > able to support ourselves. We should have the tech for you in 10 turns. Wow, that's one more turn faster than anticipated (someone else got it, lowering the cost, right?). Amphibious Warfare in 10t sounds perfect - nobody else has it. We shall have Atomic Theory for you next turn, then three times 4t for Electronics, Motorized Transport, & Radio. Considering GS have entered modern times this turn, we are 13t behind research-wise. Let's hope we will be able to catch up before it's too late. Take care, Radek

	08-09-2004 02:23									#264
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And my response

quote: Hi Radek, I'd have to check through the last few turns to see if the cost of flight changed. I'm not sure offhand. Regarding being 13 turns behind GS, hopefully it will take them longer to research their next techs. Since we get one for free that should help make up the difference for you a bit. Jared

	13-09-2004 21:05									#265
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quote: Hi, Jared! > You're up. Nothing happening in the ocean, though I sent one of our pickets > a little farther out after it had been replaced by another and ran into a GS > picket. Good. I am getting a bit puzzled by GS... no idea what their plan is. Their tank corps are now more numerous than our cavalry corps and they still sit there tight... no marines, no bombers. For defensive forces, it's an overkill. For offensive forces, they are lacking some key unit types. We've finished Atomic Theory (sent to you) and started 4t Electronics. Then 4t Motorized Transport. Saving some extra gold all the time. Even if a war breaks out, we should be done with these two techs in 8t total. All our military save 8 horses upgraded and we are cranking out more - we are now in a MUCH better shape than 10 turns ago. Take care, Radek

	06-10-2004 21:43									#266
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From Vondrack

quote: Hi, Jared! Hi, Beta! > Nothing much going on in the sea yet. Same with us... we have spotted some GS transport movement NW-NW of Hurricane. 5 transports, 1 carrier, 1 DD, and 1 galleon heading South (!?). Not sure what that's supposed to mean - they must have known we would see them. Prolly trying to make us believe they will come over the widest part of the ocean, which however, would be good news for us (no threat to the link between you and us). We've been able to pinpoint locations of all 3 GS subs. That's good, since we now know they do not know where our subs are (we've got more then they have). Electronics sent to you as accepted. Not much help, I guess. We are building hydros like crazy. 1 done (in Legopolis), 5 more to be finished within 2-3 turns. Mostly our best cities. Should do wonders to our shield production. I can feel the tension everywhere... ) It seems like the next turn may be the one GS will set sail - they upgraded 11 galleons of theirs to transports last turn and added 9 new marines (20 total as of 1220AD). If that is not enough to launch an invasion... Will do my best to keep you posted - but this week's been rough on me. Business and all. Take care, Radek

	11-10-2004 21:21									#267
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quote: Hi, Jared! Hi, Bruce! > Nothing moving in the sea yet. We'll have amphibious warfare for you > next turn. That's good news. We were 3t from Motorized Transport last turn - to be discovered in 1260AD, if I am counting right. Our shield production is going to skyrocket over the next two turns, thanks to all those new hydro plants we will be finishing - most of our best core cities were on rivers and we have been waiting for Electronics to equip them with plants. This coming turn, we shall start prebuilding tanks. We successfully planted a spy with ND and now have spies with all major teams. Have a look at the following table, it shows military numbers for all four "strong" teams (copy-paste into a Poly edit window and preview to have it displayed in a human readable format - make sure you do it in your private forum, please... we do not want to have this table appear anywehere in public . Figures in parantheses denote changes compared to 1220AD. It's interesting that only GS kept pumping military out - GoW added very little. code: < /tr> GS GoW ND Lego Compared to us strong average weak - Settlers 9 (+2) 4 (+2) 1 2 Workers 24 29 61 15 Explorers 4 5 0 0 Medieval Infantry 1 (-1) 0 0 0 Horsemen/Knights 0 4(R) 11(A) 8(H) Cavalries 0 20 14 51 Riflemen 20 0 0 0 Marines 28 (+8) 14 5 0 Infantries 57 58 64 85 (+3) Tanks 70 44 0 0 Artilleries 14 27 0 61 Galleys 2 0 0 0 Galleons 1 0 0 0 Transports 22 18 9 15 Carriers 2 3 0 0 Submarines 3 0 0 6 Frigates 0 0 1 0 Ironclads 0 0 0 16 Destroyers 24 18 1 8 (+1) Battleships 0 0 1 9 (+1) Fighters 1 0 0 0 Bombers 0 10 (+1) 8 1 (+1) Well, that's it for this turn. Take care, Radek

	12-10-2004 04:16									#268
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Interesting stuff. When the baloon goes up, this is going to be fun.

	28-10-2004 04:07									#269
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Interesting bit from rendelnep. I'd like to help him with his piece, but I don't think it's a good idea to give GS the idea that we're looking for a fight.

quote: Hi rothaeraill, could I put your name as the leader of the Nationlist party Voxnation. I 'm doing this for the news about the legoland war. heres ther part I mentioned: VOXnation Party issued this statement ‘It is time to aid our ally Legoland, in what we know as the typical actions of the Storm Chickens and reclaim the motherland that was stolen from us. Voxtavia for the Voxians!!!!!’ Is this okay? - Rendelnep

And my response...

quote: Have you spoken with Vondrack about this yet? I think the idea he and I had hashed out a while back was to remain "neutral" in the war with GS for as long as possible so that Lego would not have to protect us militarily and could devote all your attention to the war. I personally wouldn't mind your story, but I don't want to give Gathering Storm the idea that we want to be involved in the military portion of the war. We can help Lego better with techs than militarily. Rhoth

	28-10-2004 04:25									#270
	Avatar Enlargement: We've got the solution

Sent to Vondrack just in case rendelnep hasn't talked to him. Not that I like being the informer type, but I don't want the plans we worked out to fall apart because of a propaganda piece.

quote: Hi Radek, Just a heads up on something and how you want to proceed with this. Now that the war is here, rendelnep requested to use me in a piece he is writing for war propaganda about Vox aiding Lego in the war and reclaiming the homeland, etc. I don't personally have any problem with his piece, but I asked him to talk to you about it first because of our discussion regarding avoiding military action if at all possible so we don't expose your northern border and force you to have to defend us as well as your own lands. If Lego doesn't mind his propaganda piece then I'll tell him he can use my name and the quote about Vox taking back their homeland. But if not, then I'll tell him no. Good luck in the war, and I'll keep you apprised of anything I see in the waters surrounding us. Rhoth