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faded glory
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This trash talking 2 bit dope dealer is about to learn respect for the law
Jan 2001
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"This is all speculation. In the first Gulf War the Iraquis didn't really want to fight. The RG were supposed to get the hell out of the way as fast as they could.
LOL no they werent. The Iraqi war plan was based on an attack on kuwait city. We swung around the desert and ran headlong into Iraqi positions. Four IRG divisions. That was 1/2 of the Republican Gaurd. There is no speculation too it... they dug themselves in, we dug em' out.
Medina Ridge, 73 Easting, and Khafjii. Look up the battles on Google, you will be enlightened. I promise you.
Im curouis what you base this next piece on?
"We shall see about the RG. I have a policy of not believeing Gulf War propaganda, based on talking to people who were there. "
Theres no propaganda to it. They were crushed, over 50,000 Iraqi soldiers dead... 62,000 prisoners. 62000 ! When all was said and done 500 Coalition troops were dead, half to friendly fire and 1/4 were saudi's.
"Anyway, the interesting stuff happens the day after the war ends. Every Iraqui with a gun and a grudge against the US is going to go shooting. And it looks like being a target rich environment."
Ya right...like the afgans 
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Pekka
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em seu burro dos pais!
Feb 2002
time: 07:26
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You can make someone your enemy, because it's the enemy of your own or your friend. Like Iraqis getting ready for the US attack, because they defend their own country even if they don't like Saddam. Then there are people who don't want to fight because they don't dislike the US, or identify more with the US as in hating Saddam even more. Works both ways, I think the key here is Saddam, how much you like him compared to how much you like your country (two different things) and these combined and comparing to how much you hate the US. Many of them (maybe majority) loves their own country and would fight to death because of it, but don't like Saddam and again understands that the US wants Saddam, not Iraqi people and think they are fighting the wrong war here since it has no meaning to them.
They either think they fight for their country and stay with weapons, or they think they fight for their country that is owned by Saddam and wages is it worth it because he is crap.
They're going to lose anyway, they die or surrender. It's not a question about freedom. If they would win, they still be ruled by Saddam. They have only bad choices, and they try to figure out themselves what is the least bad choice to make, and surrendering might be good choice.
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Lord Merciless
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It's a little unfair that the airforce got all the credit in Gulf War I: Saddam's armors survived the 6-week bombardement relatively intact, it was the 100 hours ground campagn that destroyed the great majority of weapons.
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IF this is true I cannot imagine why the English would send them back.....if NOTHING else let them defect......
If they are identified, the iraqi soldiers who defected are dead men and if nothing else-if this story gets out around iraq this will DISCOURAGE more surrenders when the shooting starts!!!
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Agathon
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Leafs 4TW!! - CPA
Dec 2002
time: 00:26
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quote:
Originally posted by faded glory
Medina Ridge, 73 Easting, and Khafjii. Look up the battles on Google, you will be enlightened. I promise you. |
I fail to see how this is relevant to anything I said. They didn't want to fight and had nothing to gain by doing so.
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"We shall see about the RG. I have a policy of not believeing Gulf War propaganda, based on talking to people who were there. "
Theres no propaganda to it. They were crushed, over 50,000 Iraqi soldiers dead... 62,000 prisoners. 62000 ! When all was said and done 500 Coalition troops were dead, half to friendly fire and 1/4 were saudi's. |
Jesus Christ. It's a war, of course there is propaganda. Talk to veterans about it and see what they say. And I fail to see how the results from attacking an enemy in open territory with superior armour will translate into an easy time in an urban environment.
As I said, we shall see. Attempting to make concrete predictions now is useless. I for one based on past experience tend to be wary of attempts to belittle one's foes.
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"Anyway, the interesting stuff happens the day after the war ends. Every Iraqui with a gun and a grudge against the US is going to go shooting. And it looks like being a target rich environment."
Ya right...like the afgans |
Yeah, you try roving around outside of Kabul and Kandahar and see how far you get. The place is a basket case.
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raghar
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I wish somewhere else.
Oct 2002
time: 05:26
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I'm disgraphic and I would be ashemed of myself if I'd draw such shity pictures. (sorry Ming)
Most thing from this pictures is uter crap and if anybody would believe them he should be for sometime without food just to clear his mind.
There is a lot of US wishfull thinking and from millitary view there is a lot of xxxxxxx (I think Ming would be offended by another ugly word) bad informations TM.
If Iraqui would do excactly what they are told to not, US showed them a lot of uducational pictures.
panaq be a little mercifull to people without ADSL. Use better comprimation.
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