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Ok, I'm posting this without looking at any of your posts because I don't want to know the results of the Brumbies game before watching it....
Halftime - Hurricanes 14 Sharks 17
A bit of a sloppy game. The Sharks were ahead 17-0 till the last 4 minutes of half, then the Hurricanes scored two tries in 30 seconds. The second one was scored by Umaga with a great run on the angle.
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Hurricanes 35 - Sharks 20
A huge improvement in the second half for the Hurricanes. There was some great communication between Fly-half Holwell and Christian Cullen. On a couple of occasions Holwell kicked into space for Cullen to score - great stuff!
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finbar
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Castiglion Fiorentino, Italy
Jan 1970
time: 06:26
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Originally posted by Havak
Quelle, as they say, surprise  |
You'll be grin-smileying on the other side of your face when you end up with a balance of 6.5 Civ Gold! 
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With, but not part of.  Respectable consultant type on a package sports tour. |
Frankly, I think better of the Barmy Army than I do of most "respectable consultant types" I've come across. The B.A. has matured from a bunch of peripatetic yobs into an entertaining bunch capable of very creative wit who also, along the way, raise an enormous amount of money for charity. Most "respectable consultant types" I've come across raise money for charity and take 99% of what they raise as their consultancy fee. Of course I mean your friend no offence but I shall maintain these broadsides until the bastard settles his debt with me!
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And you had been so good in not mentioning this before.
Crazy was is not? We had you ? we should have buried you. They lost concentration ? fatal against you. |
The Kiwis had the same problem and they lost from a vastly superior position. It reflects more, I think, on the capacities of the Australian team. They have incredible faith in themselves. They never give up. And they have any number of individuals who can, on any given day, virtually win a match singlehandedly. Most other teams have only a handful.
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By the way ? who hands out the free supporters clothing and accessories for Aussie cricket? Vodafone still?  |
A lot of the dills actually buy them. The queues at the merchandising outlets at the grounds are massive.
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You have my word on it. |
(See above)
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Good news ? and yet not so. We want Pat back where he belongs!  |
I suppose it depends on what his ambitions are. It might well be that he considers he's had his NH sojourn. I'm not sure what his family situation is, but, at his age, he might also prefer not to uproot again.
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By the way ? nouns, verbs et al ? what are they exactly? |
You do a perfectly reasonable job of mixing them together in roughly the right order while using them for the purposes they were designed to be used.
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Caligastia
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Originally posted by Havak
Is somebody keeping track of how much of my non-existent gold I’ve wagered. Admittedly I think the bet with Caligasatia is quite safe given that the Crusaders practically are the ABs |
Nah mate, the days of the ABs being 90% Crusaders were over after the last Tri-nations! After Auckland's strong NPC win over Waikato there were a lot of players selected from those teams for the AB's. All Blacks being mostly Crusaders is ooold news. Thing of the past.
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Bearcat
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Oregonia
Dec 1999
time: 05:26
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Eastside vs McMinnville Post-Game
A very wet day in our neck of the woods today. Several games had been played on the pitch beforehand so the turf was already somewhat messed up. Lots of mud patches and the pitch smelled like a farm field. Started raining right before we kicked off and thundered as well, the ref delayed the game for several minutes due to reports of possible lightning. We kicked off and I had the honor of the first tackle  We rucked well and kept getting the ball to our backs. We scored the first try by a run from our fullback, IIRC and converted as well to put us up 7-0. We attacked again hard, putting another try on the board not too long after that, making it 12-0. We finished the first half as a complete domination being up 17-0 and putting paid to my doubts about our ability to play McMinnville.
The second half slowed down though, after our stand-ins came on to the field. Our main problem was a delay in getting to the rucks, so our backs would place the ball while the forwards were still several paces behind and the opposition would pick it up and go. We managed to hold them off the board until their openside flanker scooped the ball and ran it in to get a try and than converted it himself to make it 17-7. We played on though and almost put another try on the board when one of our wings chipped through into open field, but it got called back for him playing the player instead of the ball, so the score remained 17-7 by the end of the game.
A nice win for us, to make up for the last game's tie, especially considering this was a friendly. The only major problems were support, and the muddy condition of the pitch (it was a mud-bog by the game's end). McMinnville also had several talkative players too, and their hooker seemed like he was out for a scrap (but than again maybe that's just a part of being a hooker). All in all, it was a nice friendly game to make-up for the lack of a league opponent and a deserved W for us, but we really need to work on getting in shape to keep from collapsing in the second half as it seems we keep on doing.
I think that we most match finbar's England description,
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England - Establish a lead, kid your supporters you're the goods, then fall in the nearest gaping hole |
We've come out roaring two games now and than fall away in the second half. That's our most glaring flaw along with being tardy to rucks. Some of our high points were excellent running from the backs, and winning a lot of scrums and line-outs. Our hooker won us two scrums against the head, which was neat.
P.S. - I'm sparing you, my injury catalogue
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Just looked at the schedule on FSW. Unfortunately I won't get to see the next Brumbies game. They're showing Blues v Reds and Sharks v Highlanders.
Blues v Reds should be good. The Reds will no doubt be continuing their experimental strategy, but I don't think it'll be enough to beat the Blues.
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La Ferté sous Jouarre France
Jan 2001
time: 05:26
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To all, please spare Tamerlin comments on Yachvili. Biarritz scrum half just scored the 22 points of his team's victory against Toulouse. I am sure our friend will be in a bad mood because of that.
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their hooker seemed like he was out for a scrap (but than again maybe that's just a part of being a hooker) |
No? I am not that agressive when I play hooker (which is almost all of the time now). Nice report. Bearcat, was there any bit of your shirt not covered with mud at the end of the match?
Finbar, it is hard making a report of my matches, but here are the last two ones, very shortly:
Muddy. Very muddy. Scrums, silly players kicking people lying on the mud. We won. I mostly saw the mud, and once touched the ball to pass it to someone who gave it to a center who happened to play prop but was positionned as a winger, and who scored a try.
As you can see, describing a single action is quite hard and confusing. Hopefully, playing in the scrum prevents me from seeing too much of the game, hence making it easier for me to stay focused.
The following match was won by 3 tries to nothing, all the tries by our fullback. Again, I managed to touch the ball at least once during open play, but an offside opponent between me and my winger forced me to pass the ball slightly in front of the winger, who made a knock-on. The offside player was not penalised, so we got a scrum (one among many). Referees should whistle when a back prevents a forward from playing the ball correctly. I don't understand there is no law for that.
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finbar
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Castiglion Fiorentino, Italy
Jan 1970
time: 06:26
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Results of interest to the thread:
Gloucester 38 -d- Bristol 21
Newcastle 24 -d- Leicester 22
Yikes! And Newcastle played the last 10 minutes with only 13 men when Leicester scored two tries. What were they doing so far behind in the first place against Newcastle? I look forward to the report on the match.
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Bearcat
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Oregonia
Dec 1999
time: 05:26
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No? I am not that agressive when I play hooker (which is almost all of the time now). |
I remember reading that the hooker was rather a fiery character who tended to grate on the opposite team.
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Nice report. Bearcat, was there any bit of your shirt not covered with mud at the end of the match?
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Yeah, there was a bit. One of our centers was covered in muck by the end though. Our scrumhalf used me to wipe the ball and his hands off though, I chalked that up to taking one for team (and being a forward) though.
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finbar
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Castiglion Fiorentino, Italy
Jan 1970
time: 06:26
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Originally posted by Havak
I believe he was with ACT. But he came to us via France ? was it Montferand? The boys might know. |
Mmmm. I don't recall the name.
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I have hugely revised my opinion of Graeme Bond ? his ability to stand up and offload in the tackle is sublime and when he works it in tandem with putting Robinson through no defence has a chance. |
Told you so! Very talented, determined player. Terrific pace and much stronger than he appears, great leg drive. I was really sorry to see him go. Missing selection for the NH tour was what sent him on his way. He always seemed destined to remain a back-up player here.
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Of course Jonno had other things on his mind ? the birth of a baby daughter ? before the weekend. Yes Finbar he is breeding ? be afraid, be very afraid. |
Presumably a caesarian birth? I wouldn't wish a lantern jaw on my worst female enemy's birth canal.
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Serious questions are being asked about the head coach for the first time I can recall ? he started the game with Vesty (Fly half), Backy and Kay on the bench ? and brought them on at the death with the game already all but lost. The media are questioning his nounce on that one ? and remember this is a four times League winning and back to back European trophy winning coach. Has he, they are asking, lost the plot? Well given that we are close to having lost as many league games this year as we lost in the last three seasons even I am starting to wonder ? loyal Tigers man that I am. |
We've batted this one around before. There's no simple, obvious answer. And I suppose it depends how many brownie points he has racked up over the last few years. The bench selection does sound odd, though. Maybe he took Newcastle too lightly. OTOH, he had plenty of time to bring then on earlier when the game might have been saved. OTOOH, if the unknown - to me - Australian had kicked straight ... OTOOOH, you shouldn't have needed a last-minute kick to beat a cellar-dweller like Newcastle. Should be an interesting off-season in Leicester.
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There is a new twist. I talked to a guy that does a lot of business in HK and Australia and he claims Ealesy is back playing amateur stuff in Sydney ? a team with Blue and white hoops? I didn?t buy it for a second myself but is there a local team that wears that colour scheme? |
It has received absolutely no mention here and I think it would have. I have my doubts, but I'll look into it. Blue and white hoops? I'll look into that too.
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It?s all starting to look like the early 90s when we were ?nearly but not quite? a good side. |
Everything is, after all, cyclical. It doesn't hurt to have to start again once in a while.
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Well yes?but it referred to my speed in reaching the bar post match. |
Broke into an amble, did you?
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LDiCesare
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La Ferté sous Jouarre France
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I remember reading that the hooker was rather a fiery character who tended to grate on the opposite team. |
Everything is in the "tended to". Here lies the whole art of playing hooker, as exemplified by utter pests like the Irich Wood and many English hookers. These top-class hookers manage to get their opponents so cross against them that said opponents lose their nerve and punch the offender right under the nose of the referee. The referee then rewards the offended hooker by giving a penalty for his side, 3 points which can change a match. With a bit of luck, the player who punched the hooker gets red carded, and the hooker himself remains relatively unharmed.
Personnally, since I don't withstand punches very well, I tend to be more peaceful. I already get my lot of high tackles (by actively being small), and there are enough opportunities to open one's head in a match not to provoke the opponent second rower who weights twice as much as I.
Tamerlin, did you see the match, you said you wouldn't be able to?
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finbar
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Castiglion Fiorentino, Italy
Jan 1970
time: 06:26
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Originally posted by Havak
Hardly surprising when he understudied Larkham. |
Yes, but he didn't. Larkham's understudy went to Queensland in the off-season. The guy must have been second- or third-understudy.
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I wonder why ? you don?t have strength in depth in the Centres do you? |
I meant to add to my post that he played more wing than centre here. Either way, playing with the Brumbies, he was always competing with quality players for a position. Ironically, last season was one of his best for the Brumbies, with plenty of starts and good performances. Ultimately, though, I gather his goal was rep rugby. I understand that he had a word to Eddie Jones, discovered he wasn't amongst Eddie's plans, and decided to choof off. He'd probably be earning more money up there and he'd see establishing himself there as a fresh challenge. The thing is, he's not - and never was - of the highest quality. More one of those skilled, immensely dedicated all-rounders destined to hover in that twilight world of almost-but-not-quite. And there are a heap of them in every country. I'm just glad to see him succeeding because he's one of those wholehearted players who deserves success.
It has just been revealed that Stirling Mortlock is going to miss the rest of the S12 and possibly even the trial matches against the NH teams with another shoulder injury. Which is really going to test the depth of our candidates for the centres.
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I think the acid test for a coach is when things are going badly and Deano is not convincing here. |
But the question has to be - why are things going badly? A coach can't do the job for the players. But who knows? Chickens and eggs.
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Tamerlin and I respectfully disagree with you. |
Of course you do. I've watched the Waratahs p*ss away countless seasons with inept management, coaching, player selection, et al. They're only now nibbling at their potential. Adversity is a great test of character.
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Almost a Trot. |
Presumably the upper limits of the Richter Scale were tested?
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14-03-2003 20:51
We bang on endlessly about S12 and 6 Nations and Test rugby but it's great to get some first-hand grassroots stuff. LDiCesares occasionally reports on some of his matches, even if it's only to tell us that he's in the sh*t because he didn't pass the ball to the Club President.
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