17-03-2003 00:23									#1
	Bush,Blair, Aznar- "Monday is last day of diplomacy" Lose 30 kilos (of popups)

Wow! Post your comments. Its coming very soon now. Ide bet 10 bucks on wednesday, if france doesnt comprise

	17-03-2003 00:23									#2
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	17-03-2003 00:24									#3
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so sad, so sad...

	17-03-2003 00:25									#4
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I haven't read the article yet, but the headlines are that Chirac will agree to a 30 day deadline.

	17-03-2003 00:27									#5
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Bush: 30 days is too much. More of the same. Only willing to accept 7 day deadline extension with benchmarks

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Wait, there was diplomacy? I thought it was just Bush ordering the world around. Diplomacy involves negotiations and compromise, things this Administration doesn't believe in.

	17-03-2003 00:29									#7
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Chirac said maybe 60 days, maybe 30 days, but not before the Inspectors have nothing left which they can possibly inspect in Iraq. In other words he isn't offering any compromise; he wants to continue the failed policies of the last 12 years no matter what.

	17-03-2003 00:32									#8
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For crying out loud, get on with it! I want TV footage of a cruise missile slamming into Saddam's face on the Wednesday evening news at the very latest. That'll teach him.

	17-03-2003 00:41									#9
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Chirac has proven today that he is a spineless frenchman. either that, or he has a plan, and is extremely cunning.

sorry, but i favor the former.

quote: Diplomacy involves negotiations and compromise.

thats now how I play civ.

	17-03-2003 00:43									#10
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i just saw on CNN that some dumbasses in Texas vandalized the house of a French-born woman.

I'd like to apologize and state that they were Texan, not American

	17-03-2003 00:45									#11
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Wow, we just watched the destruction of the political future of the British and Spanish heads-of-state.

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spineless? he's standing up to america.
on another note, i saw howard dean speak yesterday in sacramento. he knows how to whip up a crowd.

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It's about time. I'm tired of all the stalling.

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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara Wow, we just watched the destruction of the political future of the British and Spanish heads-of-state.

yes, but they (well, Blair most of all) really brought it on themselves. It was a rock and a hard place, Blair could have (and ideally, should have) listened to his people and backed off. But that wouldn't look good in the eyes of Bush blah blah blah.

In all seriousness, Blair has hung himself politically, well, unless Bush can give him some lessons in vote counting.

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quote: Originally posted by Lawrence of Arabia spineless? he's standing up to america.

his stance is becommming less and less defended as time drags on.

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The French are deffinitely strting to come around. We will either see a deal soon or Bush will say Fvck off and not compromise at all. I think there will be a 2 week deadline probably.

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quote: Originally posted by DuncanK The French are deffinitely strting to come around. We will either see a deal soon or Bush will say Fvck off and not compromise at all. I think there will be a 2 week deadline probably.

Bush has been saying that all along. He's been delaying for the benefit of Blair, but they've realized he's pretty f*cked.

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quote: Originally posted by Lawrence of Arabia i saw howard dean speak yesterday in sacramento. he knows how to whip up a crowd.

Dean's the only candidate who can unite the various wings of the Democratic Party. Unfortunately, he's already stated he's going to stop his criticism of the war once bombs start falling. Even he doesn't have any guts.

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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara Dean's the only candidate who can unite the various wings of the Democratic Party. Unfortunately, he's already stated he's going to stop his criticism of the war once bombs start falling. Even he doesn't have any guts.

did he give any reason? is he just lazy? or afraid of the secret police?

	17-03-2003 01:04									#21
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Both he and Kerry, the other anti-war Democrat who has a chance, both feel that it is wrong to criticise on-going wars, even though that's how Kerry himself first came to prominence, being one of the leaders of Vietnam Vets Against the War. They're still thinking that America sees them as untrustworthy on defense, when the problem is that America sees them as willing to say anything to get elected and not ready stand for anything (though, of course, Georgia did toss that wounded vet for being opposed to Bush's war-mongering). Thus they let draft-dogers like Bush make them seem like cowards.

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that's a shame, I thought Dean would stick up for his beliefs and ours. I was really pushing him...I'll have to look into this...though he's still probably the best bet in my opinion.

	17-03-2003 01:26									#23
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Was it just me or did anyone else think Bush looks a bit bored about the whole press conference thing?

	17-03-2003 01:43									#24
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Screw the best bet. Don't vote for them if they don't support the best policies. Fvcking Democrats will never learn if we keep voting for them.

	17-03-2003 01:53									#25
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DuncanK - sad but true I'll probably have to support the Greens in the next election, unless Kerry or Dean can grow some ****ing testicles and pledge not only to get us out of this war, but admit that it was wrong to wage in the first place.

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Then again, really...either way we're ****ed and so is Iraq. Once we get in there and mess everything up, we can't just leave...but we shouldn't stay either...jesus christ...

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I can't speak for the Spanish leader, but Blair has not hung himself politically ..

Who would take his place ?? seriously ?? The tories support Blair more than he supports himself, the lib dems will agree with whatever they conceive to be the majority opinion on the latest opinion poll, and will still only score 20% in national elections, regardless.

There is nobody to replace Blair .. The only thing that can bring him down is a disaster of a war .. and I believe that will be because he will step down.

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Its a shame that so few are willing to stand up and take the necessary steps to provide stability and hope for world peace. My prayers are with the administration, US and coalition troops and the innocent who will be caught up in this impending action.

	17-03-2003 02:19									#29
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Viceroy - what about a vote of no confidence? Is it possible? Is it likely?

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quote: Originally posted by The Viceroy I can't speak for the Spanish leader, but Blair has not hung himself politically .. Who would take his place ?? seriously ?? The tories support Blair more than he supports himself, the lib dems will agree with whatever they conceive to be the majority opinion on the latest opinion poll, and will still only score 20% in national elections, regardless. There is nobody to replace Blair .. The only thing that can bring him down is a disaster of a war .. and I believe that will be because he will step down.

maybe it's the ignorant american media, but i heard that Blair had little to no party support for war w/o a resolution, and even less population support.