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Iraqi press conference via CNN: 207 civilians injured thus far.

207 civilians with 1500 munitions, many hitting city centers? The bombs are getting smarter...

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Oh, and all Iraqis captures thus far have been civilians.

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Two British Helicopters Collide in Gulf

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Third-day Russian military intel update available in
http://www.irakwar.ru/iraq-read_art...p?articleId=384
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8:00 Baghdad time

Information is highly contradictable...
Remains of Iraqi troops continue resistance in Umm-Kasr...
Iraqi division has probably not surrendered but captured as a result of coalition Special Ops action...
Iraqi elite troopers are coming toward coalition troops. El-Nasiria is ready to fight...
Two UK search and rescue choppers were downed...
Iraqi command and communication system is still intact...
Iraqi losses are up to 250-300 killed and 500 wounded. Coalition suffers some casualties too...

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The Iraqis are also claiming to have shot down many missles.

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Russia has already started a humanitarian operation in order to help Iraqi civilians. First cargo plane landed in Kermanshah, Iran, with humanitarian aid for Iraqi refugees. The second one is going now. Two more planes will fly tomorrow.

Sources: numerous Russian TV channels and news agencies.

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Please remember that this thread is about the latest news... Please provide links or the story... This thread is not meant for rumors or commentary. And please check to see if your information has already been posted. Unless you have more to add...

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CNN: Possible move by Iraqi military to surrender to the United States?

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The timing of the bombing campaign was tied to the progress in the negotiations, a U.S. official told CNN

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Iraqi expatriates have been facilitating negotiations among CIA operatives, U.S. military officials and senior members of the Iraq Republican Guard inside Iraq aimed at achieving a peaceful surrender of Iraq, CNN has learned.

The expatriates, including Kurdish leaders and former military commanders who have "active contact with the Iraqi military," have been having "face-to-face discussions with senior members of the Iraqi Republican Guard in the last 24 to 36 hours," an administration official told CNN.

There "has been some receptivity to the idea, [but] it's not a done deal," the official said.

"They are negotiating a countrywide pacification that allows the U.S. to enter Iraq peacefully to achieve the purpose of disarmament," the official said.

He said the discussions were being "closely held and coordinated very closely" with CIA and U.S. military officials.

Timing of bombing campaign linked to talks
The official said the status of the negotiations was a factor in the timing of the start of the major U.S. bombing campaign Friday as officials assessed whether a deal could be struck.

But "because we weren't there yet, we decided to continue with the bad cop role," he said.

"The end result will be the same whether there is a peaceful agreement or not," the official said. "We are going to control every square inch of Iraq.

"We are going to remove the regime. The country will be disarmed."

He said the United States was going to begin "de-Baathification" and help Iraqis create a new government. The Baath Party controls Iraq.

'It's a simple choice.'
"The Iraqi [military] can die or live. It's a simple choice," the official said.

A CIA spokesman had no comment about the negotiations.

"There are a number of individuals in countries around the world who have been conveying the message to the Iraqi regime that it is now inevitable that there will be a change," Secretary of State Colin Powell said Friday.

"In order to prevent any loss of life beyond that which may have occurred already, it would be wise for Iraqi leaders to recognize that their day is over and that this is going to happen."

Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld has been saying in recent days the United States was in touch with Iraq's military leadership at all levels, but he indicated Friday talks had not progressed as far as the United States felt they should have.

The administration official said one of the reasons a deal had not been reached was the United States was trying to ascertain the authority with which the Iraqi Republican Guard senior leaders were speaking.

"It is unclear whether these guys represent themselves or a coalition of military commanders who want a brighter future for Iraq," he said.

He said some senior members of the Iraqi leadership who stepped down peacefully could be offered some sort of asylum.

The official said the Iraqi expatriates driving the negotiations were "pre-positioned in northern Iraq, ready to move at a moment's notice when we see the pillars of Iraqi leadership beginning to fall."

Some have "been hanging out for months" and some were recently dispatched to the region before getting a green light from the United States to enter Iraq over the past day or so.

"These are people for whom lines of communication with the U.S. have been open previously," the official said.

He said the United States had heard about the expatriates and had sent them leaflets and spammed their e-mails in recent weeks "asking them to take positive action ... and telling them we would deeply appreciate it if they did."

The official said that "if these guys play a positive role and help to facilitate this, they could certainly play a role" in a post-Saddam Iraq.

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Numerous Iraqi Surrenders

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From Tom Newton Dunn with 40 Commando near al-Faw, southern Iraq



IRAQI conscripts shot their own officers in the chest yesterday to avoid a fruitless fight over the oil terminals at al-Faw. British soldiers from 40 Commando’s Charlie Company found a bunker full of the dead officers, with spent shells from an AK47 rifle around them.
Stuck between the US Seals and the Royal Marines, whom they did not want to fight, and a regime that would kill them if they refused, it was the conscripts’ only way out.

In total, 40 Commando had collected more than 100 prisoners of war yesterday from the few square miles of the al-Faw peninsula that they controlled. Two of them were a general in the regular Iraqi Army and a brigadier. They came out from the command bunker where they had been hiding after 40 Commando’s Bravo Company fired two anti-tank missiles into it. With them was a large sports holdall stuffed with money. They insisted that they had been about to pay their troops, to the disbelief of their captors.

These were the men who had left their soldiers hungry, poorly armed and almost destitute for weeks, judging by the state we had seen them in, while appearing to keep the money for themselves.

It was only as dawn broke that the 900 Royal Marine commandos, who had moved forward during the night, realised the pitiful shape of the enemy. The first white flag was hoisted by three soldiers in a trench just outside the complex’s north gate, which had been surrounded by heavy machinegunners from Command Company.

They were taken prisoner by Corporal Fergus Gask, 26, who may have accepted the first surrender of the war. “We started engaging their positions with GPMGs (general purpose machineguns) when I noticed this white flag go up,” he said. “I didn’t know whether it was a trick or not, but I approached the trench anyway, probably a pretty silly thing to do if I think about it.

“But as soon as I saw their faces I knew they were genuine. They actually looked very relieved they didn’t have to fight any more. And they became very pleased to see us when they realised we weren’t going to do them any harm.”

The dawn light appeared to have provoked an exodus.

Small groups of dishevelled Iraqis were standing up all around us with their hands in the air, or with a dirty white T-shirt tied to a stick waving above them. Every time you turned around, a new trickle of silhouettes emerged from the horizon walking slowly towards us. One Marine joked: “Oh no. They’re surrendering at us from all sides.”

Each prisoner was thoroughly searched before he was accepted into captivity in a procedure that the commandos had clearly practised many times. The injured were quickly treated and a handful received almost immediate helicopter evacuation from the oil terminal to HMS Ocean, where a temporary hospital for PoWs has been set up.

As a new day began, so did the Marines’ gradual expansion outwards into the large expanse of waste ground that is still pockmarked with shell craters from the Iran-Iraq War.To save them having to translate from Arabic maps, 40 Commando named the clear paths they had established or wanted to seize with London street names: Downing Street, Abbey Road or Fulham Road.

Engineers, meanwhile, began the work of shutting down the many oil pipeline valves.


This is a pooled dispatch for the British press


http://www.timesonline.co.uk/articl...-619488,00.html

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http://www.strana.ru/stories/03/03/19/3302/174785.html
(Link in Russian, referring to Al-Alam TV channel who has live cameras at Iranian side of Shatt-Al-Arab river).

Iraqi troops have left Faw city, however, the coalition troops are still hesitating and do not enter it. The choppers are flying above Faw. The civilians are escaping being afraid of possible coalition air strike.

Umm-Quasr is still resisting to coalition. One may hear sound of rockets and small arm firing.

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Saturday morning, two British Royal Navy helicopters collided over international waters in the Persian Gulf, killing all seven on board, a U.S. Navy officer and six British crew members, U.S. defense officials told MSNBC TV.

P.S. So far, the official death toll of coalition is equal to 7 US and 14 UK servicemen. Besides, 3 US and 2 UK helicopters have been lost.

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Right now, a Russian federal TV channel REN-TV claims the heaviest US Marine casualties near Basra. I omit the number till any independent confirmation will come.

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Al Jazeera reported that a Russian civilian has been killed today by US in Basra :-(

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Al-Jazeera - 50 Iraqi civilians were killed in the Basra bombings today.

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An Israeli news site says that according to the Kurds at least 100 people were killed from Colition bombings in Northern Iraq.

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Albawaba :
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Uday, the elder son of Iraqi President Saddam Hussein, struck by brain hemorrhage following conflict with a member of Saddam's Fedayeen on Thursday.
The Iranian news agency, IRNA, quoted sources in northern Iraq as saying that tough and indecent orders, issued by Uday, who heads Saddam's Fedayeen, had provoked the conflict as the young man attacked Uday.

Uday's bodyguards then beat the man to injury, the unconfirmed report said.

According to some observers, the recent report on Uday could be part of the American and the Iraqi opposition propaganda campaign against Saddam Hussein's regime.

In recent weeks, the United States has been stepping up its special radio broadcasts and leaflet drops in Iraq.

For the past four months, the U.S. military has been beaming messages to Iraq on AM, FM and shortwave signals. The messages were prepared by a psychological operations unit based in Fort Bragg, N.C. (Albawaba.com)


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March 22 2003


There was little initial resistance as the United States Marines swept into southern Iraq early yesterday. One of the first encounters of the ground war was more like a massacre than a fight.

The Iraqi gunners fired first, soon after United States President George Bush announced the attack on Saddam Hussein was under way.

It was a fatal mistake.

The Iraqi artillery unit, preparing for the American invasion, had tested the range by firing registering shots at a likely spot where the American tanks would cross from Kuwait. US radar picked up the incoming shells and pinpointed their source.

Within hours, the Iraqi gunners and their Russian-made 122mm howitzers were destroyed as the Americans unleashed an artillery barrage that shook the ground and lit up the night sky with orange flashes.


"Dead bodies are everywhere," a US officer reported by radio.

Later in the day, the American firepower was turned on Safwan Hill, an Iraqi military observation post a couple of kilometres across the border. About six hours after US marines and their 155mm howitzer guns pulled up at the border, they opened up with a deafening barrage. Safwan Hill went up in a huge fireball and the Iraqi observation post was obliterated.

"I pity anybody who's in there," a marine sergeant said. "We told them to surrender."

The destruction of Safwan Hill was a priority for the attacking forces because it had sophisticated surveillance equipment near the main highway that runs from Kuwait up to Basra and then Baghdad. The attacking US and British forces could not attempt to cross the border unless it was destroyed.

Marine Cobra helicopter gunships firing Hellfire missiles swept in low from the south. Then the marine howitzers, with a range of 30 kilometres, opened a sustained barrage over the next eight hours. They were supported by US Navy aircraft which dropped 40,000 pounds of explosives and napalm, a US officer told the Herald.

A legal expert at the International Committee of the Red Cross in Geneva said the use of napalm or fuel air bombs was not illegal "per se" because the US was not a signatory to the 1980 weapons convention which prohibits and restricts certain weapons. "But the US has to apply the basic principles of International Humanitarian Law (IHL) and take all precautions to protect civilians. In the case of napalm and fuel air bombs, these are special precautions because these are area weapons, not specific weapons," said Dominique Loye, the committee's adviser on weapons and IHL.

When dawn broke on Safwan Hill, all that could be seen on top of it was a single antenna amid the smoke. The marines then moved forward, their officers saying they were determined to push on as quickly as possible for Baghdad.

The first air strike on Baghdad, and Mr Bush's announcement that the war was under way, appeared to catch US officers in the Kuwait desert by surprise.

The attack was originally planned for early today. But the US officers did not seem worried.

Within hours of Mr Bush's announcement, a vast army of tanks, trucks, bulldozers and heavy guns was surging through the dust of the Kuwaiti desert to positions on Iraq's border.


This story was found at: http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003...7749944836.html

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libian tv (according to iraqwar.ru) - coalition soldiers captured near sirian border. also, plane shot down allegedly over baghdad and pilot captured. iraqis promise that they will show prisoners soon

also, iraqwar.ru reports and cites senior american officials as saying that there is a big tank battle going on around western basra suburbs. cnn claims 15 iraqi tanks destroyed

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http://www.strana.ru/news/174803.html

According to Russian federal TV channel ORT, an US plane has been downed near Baghdad and his pilot has been captured. This info was coming from Iraqi military.

Iraqi officials promise to show the prisoner on TV.

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There's been no word on the US networks about a downed plane.

There was talk about a coalition serviceman being stung by a scorpian, however.

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Iraqi tanks counterattack coalition Marines south to El-Nasiria. Coalition forces are on defence now...
Coaltion medivac choppers have done more than 30 flights inside Iraq territory counting from this morning...
Sources say that US commander might be replaced...

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Again, no US networks have this news.

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Baghdad is bombed again.

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coalition sources reported reuters that they have captured nassiria
http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml;jsessionid=G53UJWPC0OAYACRBAE0CFEY?type=topNews&storyID=2427974

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BBC News reports that Basra has fallen.

No link.

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14.00 GMT+1 The battle of Umm Quasr has now been going on for over two days. The American flag was raised over the harbour on Friday afternoon, but that turned out to be only a symbolic gesture. 400-450 Iraqi soldiers have been taken POW, but the resistance continues. Coalition forces are currently mopping up the town by going from house to house.

Source Aftonbladet (link in Swedish)

http://www.aftonbladet.se/vss/nyhet...,280230,00.html

Edit: The same story was on Swedish TV news 1 hour later. Original source AFT (France).

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IDF Radio : US forces took over a central bridge on the Euphrates, near Nasseriya.

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http://www.strana.ru/news/174821.html
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Journalist of UAE's news agency confirms a coalition plane was downed over Baghdad. The pilot has been ejected and have been seen in the sky of Baghdad.

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A Kuwaiti military source said that several western journalists are lost in south of Iraq. Besides, five journalists have been wounded during fight in Umm-Quasr.

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13.37 GMT+1 After Turkey entered Iraqi Kurdistan, Germany threathens Turkey to withdraw the forces they placed there after the NATO request to assist Turkey aginst possible Iraqi attacks.

Source TT -> Aftonbladet (link in Swedish)

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ABC News reporter embedded with the 1st Marine Expeditionary Force says Marines regrouping ~ 30 miles west of Basra. Then on to the Northwest.

 
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