22-03-2003 02:46									#241
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quote: Originally posted by Shi Huangdi Please indicate sources of any information you post on this thread.

I just saw that reported on television -- ABC News.

	22-03-2003 02:49									#242
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quote: Originally posted by Shi Huangdi Please indicate sources of any information you post on this thread.

http://news.walla.co.il/ts.cgi?tssc...=365211&path=22

See my earlier reply to GePap(I think it was him).

	22-03-2003 02:58									#243
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There ya go. Something in English.
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/03/21/i...21CND-SURR.html

I get my info either from Israeli media or from Israeli news forums that with their high number of participants have at least a few people for every news channel, news agency, radio station, etc. These people post the news, big and small, as soon as they hear them and I translate and pass the interesting ones to Apolyton.

When there is a link, a report or a source within their post, I post it too. When there isnt, I still post. In the past 3 days their credibility was 100% and I see no reason to bother spending precious minutes on looking for major English news sources.

	22-03-2003 03:01									#244
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I have no doubt Israeli media should be accurate. If the site is in hebrew though, can't you just say exactly where it is coming from(for instance, the name of the Israeli newspaper or Israeli radio)?

	22-03-2003 03:10									#245
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22:46(GMT +1:00) Selon le Daily Telegraph, des Tornados britanniques ont décollé du Koweit pour pilonner la défense anti-aérienne de Bagdad, avant de nouveaux bombardements américains
22:46(GMT+1:00) According to Daily Telegraph, British Tornados took off Kuwait to destroy the anti-aircraft defence of Baghdad, before new American bombardments
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www.tf1.fr/news

	22-03-2003 03:20									#246
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Eyewitnesses Report Seeing Wounded Saddam Being Carried From Compound
Fri Mar 21 2003 10:32:01 ET

Intelligence sources now say there were eyewitnesses at the scene where Saddam Hussein's complex was bombed on the first night, ABC reported Friday morning.

John McWethy, ABC's national security correspondent, said on air: "Those eyewitnesses say that they saw Saddam Hussein being taken from the wreckage on a hospital gurney, that he had an oxygen mask over his face. In addition, intelligence sources say that there is a lack of communication between Saddam Hussein's office and his main commands and the rest of his government.

"They are interpreting that as meaning that there is some problem with his health. So they are optimistic that something has happened to the leader of Iraq, but they are still extremely cautious about what his condition is."

Developing...

Drudge Report.

	22-03-2003 03:21									#247
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Here is a map picture of Known Iraqi and US positions. Made by member of another forum.

Attachment: moren.bmp.jpg
This has been downloaded 100 time(s).

	22-03-2003 03:22									#248
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22:58 L'armée irakienne affirme que ses troupes résistent toujours à Fao, dont la chute a été annoncée par Londres
22:58 The Iraqi army affirms that its troops always resist in Fao, whose fall was announced by London

Anybody know a site or softwhere where I can translate Arabs to English or French????
( I know we're only suppose to post News, but I want to know what http://www.aljazeera.net say.)
Thanks

	22-03-2003 03:26									#249
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Oh yeah I fund something to translate al-jazeerah webpages

http://tarjim.ajeeb.com/ajeeb/default.asp?lang=1

but i search something better... I wish this can help us!

Here others Arabic News!
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http://www.asharqalawsat.com/
http://www.alhayat.com/ http://english.daralhayat.com/
http://www.ahram.org.eg/
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	22-03-2003 03:29									#250
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Faded Glory: I think that map has severe problems, doesn't show US positions in western and northern iraq

	22-03-2003 03:32									#251
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And where is Kirkuk on that map?

	22-03-2003 03:35									#252
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There are no positions in western Iraq. We control 2 airfields. Not really a large force worth noting. The map is pretty accurate showing some of the Gaurd divisions and known locations of liberation.


Hey and again. I didnt make it

http://ea

	22-03-2003 03:57									#253
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The commander of one of the American warships said that 320 cruise missiles wee launched tonight on Baghdad.

	22-03-2003 04:05									#254
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Air Raid sirens in Baghdad.

	22-03-2003 04:17									#255
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OK - just reported from the northern border of Iraq that Turkish troops will almost certainly enter northern Iraq within the next few hours. Their stated mission is to prevent refugees entering Turkey and to combat "terrorist" activities in northern Iraq. For those not in the know the latter means "suppressing Kurds and frustrating their push for independence".

Nice one George you dumb sh*t: you've just effectively started a war between two of your allies and probably also a Kurdish rebellion in eastern Turkey which will result in thousands of civilian casualties.

	22-03-2003 04:24									#256
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US Official: Iraqi 51st division commander surrenders - Sky TV

	22-03-2003 04:39									#257
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00:18 La chaîne Al-Jazira annonce la chute d'un missile sur les faubourgs de Bagdad
00:18 Chain Al-Jazira announces the fall of a missile on the suburbs of Baghdad
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	22-03-2003 04:42									#258
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here the links about turks:
Turkey to send troops to Iraq
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/2874635.stm

	22-03-2003 04:47									#259
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Pyongyang says US is planning attack
North Korea has accused the US of preparing a pre-emptive strike on its nuclear facilities, as US-led forces continued to attack Iraq.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/2871261.stm

	22-03-2003 04:50									#260
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600 Iraqi have been made prisonneers.(???? So few prisonneers where is the army??? In city??Waiting American and British?)
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On television, www.radio-canada.ca/nouvelles.
States-financed(not controlled) Television and Radio media.

	22-03-2003 04:54									#261
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So now it's made... another Actor in this war..
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00:45 Plusieurs unités turques ont pénétré dans le nord de l'Irak
00:45 Several Turkish units penetrated in the north of Iraq
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From Reuters on www.tf1.fr/news

and here:
http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml;jsessionid=RKVLEGAGFZMO0CRBAEOCFEY?type=topNews&storyID=2426590

	22-03-2003 05:02									#262
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00:59 (GMT+1:00)Des sources kurdes font état de bombardements américains sur des positions d'Ansar al-Islam, groupe islamiste accusé par Washington d'être proche d'Al Qaïda

00:59(GMT+1:00)The Kurdish sources give a report on American bombardments on positions of Ansar Al-Islam, islamist group shown by Washington to be close to Al Qaïda

	22-03-2003 05:04									#263
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ATTENTION

CNN REPORTS THAT TURKISH FORCES HAVE MOVED INTO IRAQ AGAINST AMERICAN WISHES.

Can anyone confirm?

Sorry for posting on so many threads but I believe it to be very important as it may lead to some sort of skirmish.

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	22-03-2003 05:04									#264
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8,000 IRAQI SOLDIERS SURRENDER

WASHINGTON — An entire division of the Iraqi army, numbering 8,000 soldiers, surrendered to coalition forces in southern Iraq Friday, Pentagon officials said.

Iraq's 51st Infantry Division surrendered as coalition forces advanced toward Basra, Iraq's second largest city. The mechanized division had about 200 tanks before the war, according to independent analysts and U.S. officials.

The 51st was one of the better equipped and trained in Iraq's regular army forces and was the key division protecting Basra, a major transportation and oil shipment hub on the Shatt al-Arab waterway that leads to the Persian Gulf.

The division was the largest single unit to surrender en masse on Friday, a day that saw hordes of Iraqi troops give themselves up -- in some cases, to journalists accompanying U.S. units. U.S. forces advancing across southern Iraq often found Iraqi tanks and other weapons abandoned in the desert.

Many of the surrendering Iraqis were demoralized and poorly equipped, with some wearing T-shirts and carrying worn Kalashnikov rifles.

"I kind of felt sorry for them," said one U.S. military official in southern Iraq, speaking on condition of anonymity. "A lot of them looked hungry. They haven't been fed in a while."

The surrender of the 51st removed a major obstacle to the U.S. and British goal of securing all of southern Iraq so forces could focus on the push to Baghdad. U.S. forces also secured the port city of Umm Qasr on Friday.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,81835,00.html

	22-03-2003 05:23									#265
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Dominikos
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Read the post just before yours.
thanks

	22-03-2003 05:23									#266
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quote: Originally posted by Dominikos ATTENTION CNN REPORTS THAT TURKISH FORCES HAVE MOVED INTO IRAQ AGAINST AMERICAN WISHES. Can anyone confirm? Sorry for posting on so many threads but I believe it to be very important as it may lead to some sort of skirmish. ------------------ ~Dominik - Lord of the Putumayo~

Yes, Fox has confirmed this also. Turkish troops are on the move, kurds vow to fight them if they get to close.


More attacks being launched on Baghdad underway, before daytime. according to Centcom

	22-03-2003 05:27									#267
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01:10(+1:00 GMT) Irak : décollage de chasseurs bombardiers du porte-avions américain Theodore Roosevelt

01:10(+1:00 GMT) Iraq: takeoff of hunters bombers of the American aircraft carrier Theodore Roosevelt
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Another bombardment will begin soon. I think it takes 30min to reach Bagdad!

	22-03-2003 05:36									#268
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CNN now reports Turkish forces number 1000.

CNN also reports they are on a Humanitarian mission, and to extend a buffer zone. What do you think of this?

Such a move can cause huge problems.

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	22-03-2003 05:39									#269
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3 miles into N. Iraq Dominiko's. Hardly a "Problem" more like a precaution by turkey

	22-03-2003 05:40									#270
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Dominikos: Copy/Paste this links
http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml;jsessionid=RKVLEGAGFZMO0CRBAEOCFEY?type=topNews&storyID=2426590

and this:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/2874635.stm

and this

http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/L2186449

wishing this can inform you

Last edited by cronos_qc on 22-03-2003 at 05:46