23-03-2003 04:52									#1
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From what I've heard most of the British and American fatalities in this war so far are due to helicopter crashes.

Can someone in the know give me the lowdown on their reliability record in past conflicts, and whether this is just coincidental.

This is a discussion about helicopter gun ships, I don't want any general Iraq discussion threadjacking. Keep it on the subject of helicopters.

	23-03-2003 04:54									#2
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yea A brit and an american helicopter crushed on mid air
heh

	23-03-2003 04:57									#3
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Well, this went downhill pretty fast.

As for the helicopters, I'm not really sure. The British ones were Sea Kings, which crash almost all the time. Makes you wonder why they bother with them.

	23-03-2003 04:59									#4
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quote: Originally posted by Paul Hanson Well, this went downhill pretty fast.

two of them actually

	23-03-2003 05:01									#5
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I'm going to do you a favour and ignore that.

	23-03-2003 05:01									#6
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You cant be serious

	23-03-2003 05:02									#7
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quote: Originally posted by Paul Hanson I'm going to do you a favour and ignore that.

Its true though. Two helicopter collided.

Edit - ah, you meant the thread.

	23-03-2003 05:04									#8
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I know, but don't you think was a tad tasteless?

	23-03-2003 05:05									#9
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I'm sure the Iraquis don't really care for your aesthetic pleasures, at this time.

two of your hellos went downhill, and they shouldn't be there in the 1st place.


the fact that how this happened is they collided in mid air makes it mildly amusing, in your slaughter house.

but let's keep it on topic:


I say it's the brit wrong way of driving myself.

	23-03-2003 05:09									#10
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Do yourself a favour and **** off out of this thread paiktis.

	23-03-2003 05:09									#11
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Pattycakes is an Ouzo swilling ass. I'm sure many would agree...

	23-03-2003 05:09									#12
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quote: Originally posted by Paul Hanson I know, but don't you think was a tad tasteless?

Considering the source, its par for the course.

	23-03-2003 05:11									#13
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LOL

	23-03-2003 05:12									#14
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Anyway, back to Helicopters, people.

How many died in accidental helicopter crashes in Gulf War I?

	23-03-2003 05:15									#15
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You could consider the chopper that went down in New York state a week ago as well...

	23-03-2003 05:17									#16
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They are far from the safest means of transporting infantry, but they are damn convenient for combat purposes.

	23-03-2003 05:18									#17
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Quick search on Google says that 17 helicopters were lost in Gulf War I but whether any of them were accidents I don't know...

	23-03-2003 05:19									#18
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Well that's not very helpful.

	23-03-2003 05:21									#19
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It's more helpful than your comment.

I was at the University of Surrey the other week. What a boring place...

	23-03-2003 05:25									#20
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Although, questioning all helicopters based on the Sea Kings is a bit like questioning wheeled transport because of Pintos.

Then again, collisions are another story, aren't they. Human error would be the biggest factor there.

	23-03-2003 05:30									#21
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quote: Originally posted by *End Is Forever* It's more helpful than your comment. I was at the University of Surrey the other week. What a boring place...

The more boring the university the more easy it is to get the girls into your room to make your own fun.

	23-03-2003 05:35									#22
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Well that's why I'm in York...

I thought you were a married man anyway...?

	23-03-2003 05:41									#23
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quote: Originally posted by Gibsie The more boring the university the more easy it is to get the girls into your room to make your own fun.

Twister is a great game.

	23-03-2003 05:44									#24
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Only three so far. None to combat.
A Marine CH-46.
British Sea Kings.
Both of these type have been around for a long time. First flight for the SH-3 (Sea King) was 1959.
First flight for the CH-46 was Aug. 1959.
I think its time to retired both types.

	23-03-2003 05:45									#25
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And I thought you were a nice innocent little Christian boy Anthony... honestly.

	23-03-2003 05:49									#26
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Married? Ho ho no.

	23-03-2003 05:50									#27
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Just a saying... would "in a relationship" be easier for you to understand?

	23-03-2003 05:53									#28
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No. I can't get my head around it.

	23-03-2003 05:58									#29
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Fair enough.

	23-03-2003 07:19									#30
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Nothing unusual here, accidents kill and destroy more
aircraft and crew than the enemy in most conflicts.
(WW1, WW2 fer sure)