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Who shall win?
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| The Galactic Empire |
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23 |
38.98% |
| The coalition of the willing, Milky Galaxy |
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11.86% |
| Haha! Babylon5 ownz u! |
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16 |
27.12% |
| The Banana Collective. |
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13 |
22.03% |
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59 voters |
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Boris Godunov
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Portland, OR
Aug 2001
time: 00:27
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Originally posted by Dr Strangelove
Which Galaxy? At the onset of the first episode we were told rather pointedly that the story takes place in another galaxy "far, far away". Perhaps it took place in a much smaller galaxy. I seem to recall that there is a galaxy or cluster called "M 10" or something like that composed of several thousand stars relatively compacted into a space of only a few light years across. The average distance between stars is only a few light days. Maybe that's where the Star Wars action took place? |
The galaxy in Star Wars is vaster than our own. According to canonical sources (ANH novelization), the Empire alone controls 1 million star systems. And according to a quote from Han, there are 12 million systems known to be habitable, which is out of 400 billion stars in the galaxy (according to Tales of the Bounty Hunter). There's no possibility that many stars were compressed into such a small space, as the gravitational forces of so many stars would have caused the entire galaxy to collapse in on itself into a massive black hole. Or the sky would be so dense with light of all the stars that it would be stunningly bright all the time. There also 20 million known species of sentient life, which a few thousand stars would be unable to account for.
Lonestar said before something about the SW's galaxy's diameter being 120,000 lightyears, larger than our own.
Last edited by Boris Godunov on 28-03-2003 at 08:29
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Boris Godunov
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Portland, OR
Aug 2001
time: 00:27
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Originally posted by Urban Ranger
So? You are assuming that their galaxy is as big as the Milky Way. This is not the case. The fact is their galaxy is a lot smaller. In fact, just a tiny itty bitty thing. The Milky Way galaxy is around 30,000 light-year across. Yours, probably like 50 ly.
Well, sure, because the Milky Way is so bloody big compared to the SW two-bit galaxy. One of the technical manuals for the Enterprise-D states that Warp 8 is 28 times c (speed of light). That's 256 times to you mathematically challenged.  It will actually take more than 117 years for a Fed ship to move from one edge of the Milky Way galaxy to the other edge. You forgot, however, that warp drives are only used when they are on patrol. Fed ships can move at transwarp speeds for strategic movement. So who is faster here?
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Dispensed with above. You're completely, utterly wrong.
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Even when it's said in one of the SW movies?
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What he said in the movies is not given any specific measurement. We have no idea what ".5 past lightspeed" means. He may not even be referring to hyperspace speed at all, but the ability to travel on their normal engines. After all, if he could make it from one star system to the other without hyperspace in a matter of weeks, then his normal engines must be capable of going faster than the speed of light. 
Dealt with...you're wrong.
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Not so. Phasers tunnel through subspace, since ST ships fight at warp speed. If they move at lightspeed they can never hit. So phasers bypass Imperial shields.
That's nice, but since Imperial starships are incapable of engaging targets at trans-light speeds, they are just sitting ducks.
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And again this doesn't appear to be the case, as SW ships seem to be able to achieve faster-than-light travel without their hyperspace engines. So you're wrong again.
Thank you, come again!
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Urban Ranger
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Apolyton Duke of Off-Topic
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Originally posted by Boris Godunov
The galaxy in Star Wars is vaster than our own. According to canonical sources (ANH novelization), the Empire alone controls 1 million star systems. And according to a quote from Han, there are 12 million systems known to be habitable, which is out of 400 billion stars in the galaxy (according to Tales of the Bounty Hunter). |
You are talking about a whole bunch of people who don't know a thing of astronomy even if it bites them in the rear. You know where that number 400 billion comes from? It's number of stars estimated in the Milky Way galaxy. What a coincidence.
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Originally posted by Boris Godunov
There's no possibility that many stars were compressed into such a small space, as the gravitational forces of so many stars would have caused the entire galaxy to collapse in on itself into a massive black hole. |
It is entirely possible that the SW galaxy is far smaller than it is asserted by the fans and novel writers.
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Originally posted by Boris Godunov
Lonestar said before something about the SW's galaxy's diameter being 120,000 lightyears, larger than our own. |
The core of the Milky Way is a 30,000 diameter sphere. The whole galaxy is about 100,000 ly in diameter and 10,000 ly thick, budging in the middle. So it will take the Enterprise-D over 390 years to completely transverse the Milky Way.
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