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Comrade Tassadar
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Originally posted by Asher
Honest question: If pure, hardcore truth is all your after -- what do you think of the 5 year olds watching this?
What do you think of the families of soldiers which see their loved ones dead on TV, their innards spread over a 5 foot area or their brain splayed across the ground.
Do you not care?
What do you think of the people so disgusted by the graphic nature of it they turn apathetic?
What do you think of the people becoming so desensitised to the material that they treat death even more nonchalantly? |
I care. I care completly. Thats why I want a warning.
Do you want people to say "Well, only 10 people died there. Not very many"?
Do you want people so desensitised to war that they unleash it on others without a single thought? Because if you haven't seen it, you dont know what its like. Therefore you can't make an informed decision.
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Comrade Tassadar
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Originally posted by Asher
The WTC had more people working in it than people who lived in Umm Qasr... |
And were you able to see it close up, how people were being shot at by troops over a hill or right next to you?
Actually yes, I should say more like 50 years.
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Look: It's all open to interpretation, but I think it's damn condescending for people to argue that "Americans don't understand death" and use that as a centerpiece for an argument to show full-out carnage all over TV. |
Do you think Americans understand death like, say, an Afghani or a Soviet-Russian would?
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Comrade Tassadar
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Originally posted by Asher
Warnings are STUPID.
Warnings rarely have an effect, EVER.
If you see a warning on your VHS tapes warning about copying them, do you then say "f*ck, I better not copy this!" or do you just find them annoying? |
Fine, if you choose to ignore a warning, then do so. I personally heed to them sometimes. SUCH AS WARNINGS ABOUT VIOLENCE.
it's each persons choice. If they want to ignore it, they can.
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That's obviously not the case, there was plenty of thought behind the Iraq conflict. Hell, we gave Iraq over a dozen years to comply with UN demands, but they still wouldn't. C'est la vie. |
Yes it is the case. Because for MANY MANY years, Americans never really thought about the war in Iraq. It just wasnt a major issue.
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Comrade Tassadar
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Originally posted by Asher
If they want to download it, they can.
Same argument -- but for some reason you've convinced yourself it can only work in your case... |
And if they want to flip off teh TV, they can as well.
My argument allows those who are moderately interested to get information and those who arent at all to leave. Yours doesnt.
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That's because it wasn't on the edge of war! We were relying on the UN, and Iraq feigned compliance. |
Lets not begin debating Iraqi compliance. I dont want to nor will I.
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Comrade Tassadar
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Originally posted by Asher
They sure can. But why would this be the case? CNN and company already don't show it, you want them to show it and the existing people who don't want to see it have to turn it off. |
Exactly.
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If you want to show full-out carnage, use another news network. Call it the NAN, Necrophiliacs Anonymous Network, and you can even show closeups of people's decapitations if you want.
Just leave CNN alone... |
Your missing the point: I dont want to put dead bodies on TV just for the heck of it. I want to put them on TV to give people the view of the RESULT of the action they either APPROVED or DISAPPROVED, whether that be showing an innocent Iraqi mother with her face in pieces or a bullet through an American Soldiers head.
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Comrade Tassadar
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Originally posted by Tassadar5000
Exactly.
Your missing the point: I dont want to put dead bodies on TV just for the heck of it. I want to put them on TV to give people the view of the RESULT of the action they either APPROVED or DISAPPROVED, whether that be showing an innocent Iraqi mother with her face in pieces or a bullet through an American Soldiers head. |
Note: I will be one of the people who turns the TV off when they display the warning.
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Comrade Tassadar
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Originally posted by Asher
No, you're missing the point: I understand that.
What you don't understand is people won't watch what they don't want to watch. You DO want to force them to watch it, but you won't admit it. But it's plainly obvious by your position in the post I just quoted. |
No ashwer, I dont want to FORCE them. If I did, I would have the government pass a law requiring that everyone take 1000 pictures of the dead bodies, sign them, and put them all over their house. (4000 pictures will be the averege)
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(please don't go into the "but there's a warning!" drivel, that's not the point). |
No, its not the point. Its an arguement.
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25-03-2003 11:22
This comment completly shows your ignorance of the subject.
Are you AGREEING WITH ME?! 
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