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Rufus T. Firefly
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is one way of saying it, though I prefer "mensch"
Sep 2000
time: 07:27
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A news story I saw yesterday (not this one) quoted a soldier in Iraq as wanting to take Baghdad and "begin getting some revenge for 9/11"; the same story cited a recent poll in which 42% of Americans believe Sadaam was responsible for the Twin Tower attacks.  We might then reasonably ask, "Hey, wait a minute, didn't we used to hate some other guys because of their role in 9/11? Didn't we go in and change their regime? What ever happened to them?" Read on, MacDuff...
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Taliban resurges, reviving organization
04/08/03
Kathy Gannon
Associated Press
Kandahar, Afghanistan
- Before executing the International Red Cross worker, the Taliban gunmen made a satellite telephone call to their superior for instructions: Kill him?
Kill him, the order came back, and Ricardo Munguia, whose body was found with 20 bullet wounds last month, became the first foreign aid worker to die in Afghanistan since the Taliban's ouster from power 18 months ago.
The manner of his death suggests the Taliban is not only determined to remain a force in this country, but also is reorganizing and reviving its command structure.
There is little to stop them. The soldiers and police who were supposed to be the bedrock of a stable postwar Afghanistan have gone unpaid for months and are drifting away.
At a time when the United States is promising a reconstructed democratic postwar Iraq, many Afghans are remembering hearing similar promises not long ago.
Instead, what they see is thieving warlords, murder on the roads, and a resurgence of Taliban vigilantism.
"It's like I am seeing the same movie twice and no one is trying to fix the problem," said Ahmed Wali Karzai, the brother of Afghanistan's president and his representative in southern Kandahar.
"What was promised to Afghans with the collapse of the Taliban was a new life of hope and change. But what was delivered? Nothing. Everyone is back in business."
Karzai said reconstruction has been painfully slow - a canal repaired, a piece of city road paved, a small school rebuilt.
But progress also is a question of perspective. Capt. Trish Morris, spokeswoman for the Coalition Joint Civil-Military Operations Task Force, said civil affairs teams have spent up to $13 million on projects affecting the daily lives of Afghans.
"That may not sound like a lot of money, but that's hundreds of schools and clinics and bridges and wells all over Afghanistan," Morris said in Kabul.
From safe havens in neighboring Pakistan, aided by militant Muslim groups there, the Taliban launched their revival to coincide with the war in Iraq and capitalize on Muslim anger over the U.S. invasion, say Afghan officials.
Karzai said the Taliban are allied with rebel commander Gulbuddin Hekmatyar, supported by Pakistan and financed by militant Arabs. The attacks have targeted foreigners, and the threats have been directed toward Afghans working for international organizations.
In the latest killing in southern Afghanistan, gunmen on Thursday shot to death Haji Gilani, a close Karzai ally, in southern Uruzgan province. Gilani was one of the first people to shelter Karzai when he secretly entered Afghanistan to foment a rebellion against the Taliban in late 2001.
International workers in Kandahar don't feel safe and some have been moved from the Kandahar region to safer areas, said John Oerum, southwest security officer for the United Nations. But Oerum is trying to find a way to stay in southern Afghanistan.
To abandon it would be to let the rebel forces win, he says.
The Red Cross, with 150 foreign workers in Afghanistan, has suspended operations indefinitely. |
One begins to get the feeling that, while Bush himself is supposedly dyslexic, the whole damned administration has Attention Deficit Disorder Syndrome... 
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Zevico
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Melbourne
Apr 2002
time: 15:27
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Tuomerhu-
Saddam Hussein is affiliated with Fundy groups against America. So yes, he no doubt provided funds (and at the very least a blind eye) to Al Qaida, and thus helped out with 9/11.
Your next statement is a partial truth. He ordered their deaths, he did not do so himself. And I don't think it was with anthrax.
(3) While some Arab leaders have had a 'harem' type thing during the modern era, Saddam has not (although he has had mistresses)
(4) Saddam is none of those. And your sentence makes no grammatical sense, either.
(5) Proof, please?
[Note-this is in regards to your reply and your signature as well]
Last edited by Zevico on 09-04-2003 at 14:28
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VJ
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Helsinki
Dec 2001
time: 07:27
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Most of my signature is currently sarcasm, I was inspired by this.
I'll copy/paste part of my sig to here, because I'll probably edit it in the future:
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REASONS FOR WAR : (1) Saddam Hussein is responsible from 9/11 - (2) Hussein, single-handedly killed about 20 000 innocent kurds, with evil anthrax, a WMD - (3) Hussein has a harem, consisting of drugged virgin teens - (4) Hussein is a satan's messenger, son of Hitler, who we are driving from this world, with the help of our glorius leader and God - (5) Hussein eat's little babies, after molesting them. |
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Saddam Hussein is affiliated with Fundy groups against America. So yes, he no doubt provided funds (and at the very least a blind eye) to Al Qaida, and thus helped out with 9/11. |
Source? Considering that Hussein is almost the only non-religious leader in the whole ME-area, and he was against Taleban in the conferences of Arabi-league during the 90's, I find this hard to believe.
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My Wife Hates CIV
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Michigan
Jan 1970
time: 05:27
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Originally posted by Skanky Burns
And the US government wonders why the majority of the world is cynical as to their motives... |
Like this was not the case 12 months ago. or anytime for that matter. please.
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Kontiki
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Canada
Aug 2001
time: 00:27
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You can't expect to turn Afghanistan into a prosperous democracy overnight. You first have to let it desolve back into a bunch of warlord-controlled mini-fiefdoms with a central government that doesn't even have full authority over the capital. Then, after years of neglect, everything will be super.
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MarkG
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Grand Lord of Apolyton, Owner of all this land as far as the eye can see
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http://web.worldbank.org/WBSITE/EXT...%3A4607,00.html
http://web.worldbank.org/WBSITE/EXT...%3A4607,00.html
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The 22 donors are: Bahrain, Canada, Denmark, European Commission, Finland, Germany, India, Ireland, Italy, Japan, Kuwait, Luxembourg, Netherlands, Norway, Portugal, Saudi Arabia, South Korea, Sweden, Switzerland, Turkey, United Kingdom, United States |
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All times are GMT. The time now is 05:27.
Apolyton Time is 00:27. |
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09-04-2003 12:52
Neither Iraq nor Afganistan is in Eurasia or east-Asia.
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